Richard Rushfield is joined by the most dangerous man in movie blogging, Hollywood Elsewhere’s veteran man about the industry Jeffrey Wells. We talk about the recent decision of the Sundance film festival to withdraw his credentials, the rise of the PC culture in movie blogging as well as a deep look into this year’s Oscar race, including what could be the firestorm to come over Clint Eastwood’s new shock humor heavy film The Mule. Presented by the delicious people at Mrs. Fields.

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There are 12 comments.

  1. filmklassik Member

    Wells is a fine writer and I like his blog (Hollywood Elsewhere) while liking none of his politics. He was all in for Bernie Sanders, for example, and was an early supporter of Elizabeth Warren. And he bashes Trump (good for him) and everyone who voted for Trump (less good for him) and all of flyover country (bad for him) at every opportunity. He thinks of the heartland as one vast, untamed wilderness full of rubes and yokels, and says as much — almost in those terms — at least twice a month. He makes no effort to hide his contempt.

    So it’s been interesting to see the tension developing between Wells’s politics (Left) and his turn of mind (iconoclastic, and basically un-pc).

    These things have lately become incompatible. At one time they could co-exist — even happily co-exist — in the same person. But today, the people that Wells has allied himself with for 60-plus years — the Left — despise iconoclasm, because iconoclasm today means telling the truth.

    So for Wells, the crucible has become: Do I hold onto my friends and my allies … or do I go on telling the truth?

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    • December 12, 2018, at 5:51 AM PST
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  2. GFHandle Member

    I enjoy these podcasts. A problem for me is that sometimes links are given and I cannot understand them. Was it “HollywoodEllsworth.com”? “HollywoodElsewhere.com”? Naturally, the podcasters are writers, not actors with perfected diction. A solution is simply to say links, titles, etc. slowly and to repeat them. That way those who want to follow up don’t have to waste time on google.

    A second tip. The introductions should be prepared in advance. 

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    • December 12, 2018, at 9:34 AM PST
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  3. Blue Yeti Admin

    GFHandle (View Comment):

    I enjoy these podcasts. A problem for me is that sometimes links are given and I cannot understand them. Was it “HollywoodEllsworth.com”? “HollywoodElsewhere.com”? Naturally, the podcasters are writers, not actors with perfected diction. A solution is simply to say links, titles, etc. slowly and to repeat them. That way those who want to follow up don’t have to waste time on google.

    A second tip. The introductions should be prepared in advance.

    His site is linked in the text at the top of the page (it’s http://hollywood-elsewhere.com). 

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    • December 12, 2018, at 10:48 AM PST
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  4. Blue Yeti Admin

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Wells is a fine writer and I like his blog (Hollywood Elsewhere) while liking none of his politics. He was all in for Bernie Sanders, for example, and was an early supporter of Elizabeth Warren. And he bashes Trump (good for him) and everyone who voted for Trump (less good for him) and all of flyover country (bad for him) at every opportunity. He thinks of the heartland as one vast, untamed wilderness full of rubes and yokels, and says as much — almost in those terms — at least twice a month. He makes no effort to hide his contempt.

    So it’s been interesting to see the tension developing between Wells’s politics (Left) and his turn of mind (iconoclastic, and basically un-pc).

    These things have lately become incompatible. At one time they could co-exist — even happily co-exist — in the same person. But today, the people that Wells has allied himself with for 60-plus years — the Left — despise iconoclasm, because iconoclasm today means telling the truth.

    So for Wells, the crucible has become: Do I hold onto my friends and my allies … or do I go on telling the truth?

    He loves Beto now. 

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    • December 12, 2018, at 10:48 AM PST
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  5. filmklassik Member

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Wells is a fine writer and I like his blog (Hollywood Elsewhere) while liking none of his politics. He was all in for Bernie Sanders, for example, and was an early supporter of Elizabeth Warren. And he bashes Trump (good for him) and everyone who voted for Trump (less good for him) and all of flyover country (bad for him) at every opportunity. He thinks of the heartland as one vast, untamed wilderness full of rubes and yokels, and says as much — almost in those terms — at least twice a month. He makes no effort to hide his contempt.

    So it’s been interesting to see the tension developing between Wells’s politics (Left) and his turn of mind (iconoclastic, and basically un-pc).

    These things have lately become incompatible. At one time they could co-exist — even happily co-exist — in the same person. But today, the people that Wells has allied himself with for 60-plus years — the Left — despise iconoclasm, because iconoclasm today means telling the truth.

    So for Wells, the crucible has become: Do I hold onto my friends and my allies … or do I go on telling the truth?

    He loves Beto now.

    Of course he does.

    Smart as Wells is, he can’t quite perceive the umbilical connection between the Leftism to which he’s pledged his troth and the PC oppression he despises. Many Conservatives miss it too. But the fact is — over the last four or five decades — in every country where Leftism has been ascendant — greater PC has followed (like B follows A). No exceptions.

    But Wells and his ilk fail to see the correlation. Or if they do see it, they just wave it aside as — what? — mere coincidence? It really is odd.

    Then again, maybe they see the correlation and recognize it’s no coincidence … but they make their peace with it. Because as bad as political correctness is, maybe for them it’s something they are willing to live with in return for the other stuff.

     

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    • December 12, 2018, at 11:20 AM PST
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  6. Chris Member

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    …Smart as Wells is,…

    he totally went with the line often debunked by the guys on the Sub-Standard: Black Panther was the first black superhero movie. Poor Wesley Snipes.

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    • December 12, 2018, at 2:31 PM PST
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  7. filmklassik Member

    Chris (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    …Smart as Wells is,…

    he totally went with the line often debunked by the guys on the Sub-Standard: Black Panther was the first black superhero movie. Poor Wesley Snipes.

    You know what? I think if Wells gave the matter more than a minute’s thought, he would have remembered about the BLADE franchise. But I read his column fairly regularly — enough to know that he doesn’t like superhero movies (in fact he calls them “Jizz Whiz” movies). So my hunch is, he doesn’t like to tax his brain by thinking about them any more than he has to. So he took the lazy way out. He was mid-conversation, and making a larger point, so he just figured, “If the culture’s treating BLACK PANTHER like it’s the first superhero movie, fine, whatever, I will too. It’s not important enough to be a stickler about.”

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    • December 12, 2018, at 6:49 PM PST
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  8. Joe D. Lincoln

    I was sort of wondering why I cared to listen to this one, but hearing a Hollywood writer complain about PC culture had some interest for me. Then I read the comments, and realized that this guy is seemingly just bitter and thinks he should be able to do whatever he wants while others (specifically us rubes who don’t live in a major left wing city) still may be silenced, and decided it wasn’t worth listening to.

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    • December 13, 2018, at 6:28 AM PST
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  9. filmklassik Member

    Joe D. (View Comment):

    I was sort of wondering why I cared to listen to this one, but hearing a Hollywood writer complain about PC culture had some interest for me. Then I read the comments, and realized that this guy is seemingly just bitter and thinks he should be able to do whatever he wants while others (specifically us rubes who don’t live in a major left wing city) still may be silenced, and decided it wasn’t worth listening to.

    That isn’t quite the case. I don’t think Wells wants anybody to be silenced – – even the “rubes” he has no personal respect for.

    But it’s always interesting to watch a Leftist confront the consequences of his own ideology – – in this case the oppressiveness of the PC Thought Police.

    Once in a while you’ll see them show a glimmer of understanding as they realize how Social Justice zealotry and full-on Leftism are joined at the hip.

    Most of the time, however, they simply fail to grasp this.

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    • December 13, 2018, at 10:14 PM PST
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  10. Chris Member

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Chris (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    …Smart as Wells is,…

    he totally went with the line often debunked by the guys on the Sub-Standard: Black Panther was the first black superhero movie. Poor Wesley Snipes.

    You know what? I think if Wells gave the matter more than a minute’s thought, he would have remembered about the BLADE franchise. But I read his column fairly regularly — enough to know that he doesn’t like superhero movies (in fact he calls them “Jizz Whiz” movies). So my hunch is, he doesn’t like to tax his brain by thinking about them any more than he has to. So he took the lazy way out. He was mid-conversation, and making a larger point, so he just figured, “If the culture’s treating BLACK PANTHER like it’s the first superhero movie, fine, whatever, I will too. It’s not important enough to be a stickler about.”

    It’s this lazy way out that irks me. This “it’s not important enough” attitude allows falsehoods to become reality in the pop culture.

    • #10
    • December 14, 2018, at 8:53 PM PST
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  11. Archibald Campbell Member

    Was this the last episode? Hasn’t been one for two months.

    • #11
    • February 27, 2019, at 12:20 PM PST
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  12. Blue Yeti Admin

    Coming soon. Awards season is a very busy time for Richard. 

    • #12
    • March 1, 2019, at 6:03 AM PST
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