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  1. Franz Drumlin Member
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    @FranzDrumlin

    If decibels were the deciding factor Mr. Gorka clearly won this exchange. What a great voice! Very radio.

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  2. Quinnie Member
    Quinnie
    @Quinnie

    I haven’t listened yet, but the teaser above is laughable.  “Will Trump drag us back”?.    To what?   Low unemployment, a booming economy, respesct globally, and a love of this country?   Please, drag me, all the way back.  

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  3. Franz Drumlin Member
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    @FranzDrumlin

    Quinnie (View Comment):
    Low unemployment, a booming economy, respesct globally, and a love of this country?

    Is it possible to have all that without Trump and his baggage? Mr. Gorka doesn’t think so. He dismisses Ron De Santis as a mere “politician.” What I see down in Florida is a guy who gets things done. Trump is by no means the only option.

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  4. Painter Jean Member
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    I’m one of those voters that Gorka needs to persuade – I voted for Trump in 2020, but after his lunacy following the election, I resolved not to vote for him again. Time to move forward, not litigate the past. Instead of persuading me, Gorka cemented my opposition to Trump in 2024, with his “You’re not a conservative if…”, his sneering at “NRO conservatives” (yup, that’s me), his inability to see anything wrong in Trump’s treatment of people like William Barr… He doesn’t want my stinking vote, and by golly he won’t get it. Gorka represents all that I dislike about Trump worshippers.

    If the GOP nominates Trump, I’ll leave the presidential slot empty. I think it’s possible to get Trump policies (some of which I liked very much) without the baggage of Trump. 

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  5. LibertyDefender Member
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    @LibertyDefender

    Franz Drumlin (View Comment):

    If decibels were the deciding factor Mr. Gorka clearly won this exchange. What a great voice! Very radio.

    I’ve often wished that Mark Levin had Sebastian Gorka’s voice.  I’ve been listening to Sebastian Gorka’s commentary for well over a decade, since the very early days when he would appear on the John Batchelor Show.  Sebastian Gorka has expressed great and proper gratitude to John Batchelor for introducing him to radio.

    This podcast was Sebastian Gorka at his rich baritone best.  He’s 100% correct.  Only Donald Trump can do what the nation needs done.

    Quinnie (View Comment):

    I haven’t listened yet, but the teaser above is laughable. “Will Trump drag us back”?. To what? Low unemployment, a booming economy, respect globally, and a love of this country? Please, drag me, all the way back.

    Another (correct) mark in the W column for Seb Gorka, and Quinnie hasn’t even listened yet!

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    I’m one of those voters that Gorka needs to persuade – I voted for Trump in 2020, but after his lunacy following the election, I resolved not to vote for him again.

    Have you listened to, or read anything by Victor Davis Hanson? Dr. Hanson cites a similar statistic that Sebastian Gorka mentioned, 80 – 100 million mailed ballots.  VDH goes on to point out that those 100 million ballots

    • were not requested by any voters;
    • have no assurance the mailing lists were compiled from accurate registered voter lists;
    • have no assurance that they were mailed to the actual intended registered voters ;
    • have no assurance that those 100 million ballots were completed by the actual intended registered  voters;
    • have no assurance that they were each timely mailed back to the appropriate precinct; and furthermore

    historically, absentee ballots that were specifically requested by registered voters, had a ~4% rejection rate.  Yet the rejection rate of the 100 million returned mail-in ballots that were not requested was on the order of 0.4%.

    None of that documented unreliability can be corrected or even quantified by recount or audit.

    It is a mystery to me how anyone can look at that situation and claim that Trump was somehow wrong to complain that the election result is neither legitimate nor credible.

    <sarcasm>Gasp! His lunacy following the election – why, it’s nearly as bad as mean tweets!</sarcasm>

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  6. Painter Jean Member
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    LibertyDefender (View Comment):

    Franz Drumlin (View Comment):

    If decibels were the deciding factor Mr. Gorka clearly won this exchange. What a great voice! Very radio.

    I’ve often wished that Mark Levin had Sebastian Gorka’s voice. I’ve been listening to Sebastian Gorka’s commentary for well over a decade, since the very early days when he would appear on the John Batchelor Show. Sebastian Gorka has expressed great and proper gratitude to John Batchelor for introducing him to radio.

    This podcast was Sebastian Gorka at his rich baritone best. He’s 100% correct. Only Donald Trump can do what the nation needs done.

    Quinnie (View Comment):

    I haven’t listened yet, but the teaser above is laughable. “Will Trump drag us back”?. To what? Low unemployment, a booming economy, respect globally, and a love of this country? Please, drag me, all the way back.

    Another (correct) mark in the W column for Seb Gorka, and Quinnie hasn’t even listened yet!

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    I’m one of those voters that Gorka needs to persuade – I voted for Trump in 2020, but after his lunacy following the election, I resolved not to vote for him again.

    Have you listened to, or read anything by Victor Davis Hanson? Dr. Hanson cites a similar statistic that Sebastian Gorka mentioned, 80 – 100 million mailed ballots. VDH goes on to point out that those 100 million ballots

    • were not requested by any voters;
    • have no assurance the mailing lists were compiled from accurate registered voter lists;
    • have no assurance that they were mailed to the actual intended registered voters ;
    • have no assurance that those 100 million ballots were completed by the actual intended registered voters;
    • have no assurance that they were each timely mailed back to the appropriate precinct; and furthermore

    historically, absentee ballots that were specifically requested by registered voters, had a ~4% rejection rate. Yet the rejection rate of the 100 million returned mail-in ballots that were not requested was on the order of 0.4%.

    None of that documented unreliability can be corrected or even quantified by recount or audit.

    It is a mystery to me how anyone can look at that situation and claim that Trump was somehow wrong to complain that the election result is neither legitimate nor credible.

    <sarcasm>Gasp! His lunacy following the election – why, it’s nearly as bad as mean tweets!</sarcasm>

    I’m a big fan of Victor Davis Hanson. Yes, I have no doubt that there were many irregularities and scams regarding the election.  These are Democrats, right? Given how much they hated Trump, I am sure that many felt it their obligation to make sure he didn’t win by any means. But Trump could have – should have – been on these balloting changes BEFORE the election, not after. He ran a lousy campaign. All he had to do was act normal and comforting for the suburban voters that he lost, but no, he was more interested in pleasing his base.

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  7. LibertyDefender Member
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    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    I have no doubt that there were many irregularities and scams regarding the election.  These are Democrats, right? Given how much they hated Trump, I am sure that many felt it their obligation to make sure he didn’t win by any means. But Trump could have – should have – been on these balloting changes BEFORE the election, not after. He ran a lousy campaign. All he had to do was act normal and comforting for the suburban voters that he lost

    So do I understand you correctly? Despite the fact that you have no doubt that the Democrats effectively stole the election system through mail-in balloting and unconstitutional pre-election changes to state voting and election systems, you believe that Trump lost suburban voters legitimately?

    You believe that Trump is entirely to blame for not effectively preventing those unconstitutional state actions?  Does the establishment Republican Party, which hated Trump and still hates Trump, have any culpability?

    You’ll never vote for Trump again? So you’re not interested in seeing ever again Trump’s policies that he promoted despite staunch opposition from Republicans?

    • Confronting China on trade;
    • Confronting North Korea on nukes;
    • Confronting China on theft of US intellectual property;
    • Negotiation of Middle East peace without including the Palestinian Authority;
    • Aggressively reducing the administrative burden on American businesses;
    • Reduction and reversal of outsourcing of labor to foreign countries;
    • Building the wall; 

    Just off the top of my head.

    Did I get that wrong?  I think Sebastian Gorka addressed all of these concerns as effectively and directly as anyone can.  From where I sit, opposition to Trump is entirely based on personality, and has nothing to do with policy.  That’s not just a shame, that’s dangerous.

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  8. Jeff Hawkins Coolidge
    Jeff Hawkins
    @JeffHawkins

    Gorka’s salespitch is exactly why Klavan is correct.

    Trump has no idea how to get things done in a system he doesn’t know and doesn’t know how to clean up a system that will work against him. 4 years proved that.

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  9. Painter Jean Member
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    @PainterJean

    LibertyDefender (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    I have no doubt that there were many irregularities and scams regarding the election. These are Democrats, right? Given how much they hated Trump, I am sure that many felt it their obligation to make sure he didn’t win by any means. But Trump could have – should have – been on these balloting changes BEFORE the election, not after. He ran a lousy campaign. All he had to do was act normal and comforting for the suburban voters that he lost

    So do I understand you correctly? Despite the fact that you have no doubt that the Democrats effectively stole the election system through mail-in balloting and unconstitutional pre-election changes to state voting and election systems, you believe that Trump lost suburban voters legitimately?

    You believe that Trump is entirely to blame for not effectively preventing those unconstitutional state actions? Does the establishment Republican Party, which hated Trump and still hates Trump, have any culpability?

    You’ll never vote for Trump again? So you’re not interested in seeing ever again Trump’s policies that he promoted despite staunch opposition from Republicans?

    • Confronting China on trade;
    • Confronting North Korea on nukes;
    • Confronting China on theft of US intellectual property;
    • Negotiation of Middle East peace without including the Palestinian Authority;
    • Aggressively reducing the administrative burden on American businesses;
    • Reduction and reversal of outsourcing of labor to foreign countries;
    • Building the wall;

    Just off the top of my head.

    Did I get that wrong? I think Sebastian Gorka addressed all of these concerns as effectively and directly as anyone can. From where I sit, opposition to Trump is entirely based on personality, and has nothing to do with policy. That’s not just a shame, that’s dangerous.

    Yes, you got a lot of that wrong.

    I do think there were no doubt a lot of shady dealings in regards to the vote, but I don’t think the election was “stolen”. I don’t think Trump would have won if everything had been above board. He could have helped himself by challenging some of the voting changes before the election, not afterwards. He turned off many voters, especially suburban women, and made no effort whatsoever to win them back. Ultimately he’s responsible for his defeat.

    I did say I was happy with many of his policies. I just don’t want him to be the one to advance them. It’s time to move forward, and he’s just stuck on 2020.

    His personality affects policy, unfortunately. I wish it didn’t, but it does.

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  10. LibertyDefender Member
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    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    His personality affects policy, unfortunately. I wish it didn’t, but it does.

    How?

    I’ll start: his personality affected Middle East peace policy, since he has no patience for those who obstruct achievement.  The result was expanding Middle East peace, despite the bunched-panty hand-wringing of the establishment limp wrists.

    Jeff Hawkins (View Comment):

    Gorka’s salespitch is exactly why Klavan is correct.

    Trump has no idea how to get things done in a system he doesn’t know and doesn’t know how to clean up a system that will work against him. 4 years proved that.

    Yes, let’s put the federal government back in the hands of the unaccountable bureaucrats where it belongs.</sarcasm>

    Trump didn’t know how to negotiate peace in the Middle East, either.  Yet he negotiated more Middle East peace treaties than the last 6 Presidents combined.

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  11. Taras Coolidge
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    @Taras

    LibertyDefender (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    His personality affects policy, unfortunately. I wish it didn’t, but it does.

    How?

    I’ll start: his personality affected Middle East peace policy, since he has no patience for those who obstruct achievement. The result was expanding Middle East peace, despite the bunched-panty hand-wringing of the establishment limp wrists.

    Jeff Hawkins (View Comment):

    Gorka’s salespitch is exactly why Klavan is correct.

    Trump has no idea how to get things done in a system he doesn’t know and doesn’t know how to clean up a system that will work against him. 4 years proved that.

    Yes, let’s put the federal government back in the hands of the unaccountable bureaucrats where it belongs.</sarcasm>

    Trump didn’t know how to negotiate peace in the Middle East, either. Yet he negotiated more Middle East peace treaties than the last 6 Presidents combined.

    When Democrats and the permanent State Department bureaucracy talk about Mideast peace, they really mean Israel being coerced into making one-sided concessions to the Palestinians.  (“Land for [empty promises of] peace.”)  For the more left-leaning in both groups, this is a useful step toward the ultimate goal, the abolition of Israel.

    The Trump administration was successful in seeking Mideast peace because it actually sought Mideast peace, unlike most of the administrations that preceded it.

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  12. Painter Jean Member
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    @PainterJean

    LibertyDefender (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    His personality affects policy, unfortunately. I wish it didn’t, but it does.

    How?

    I’ll start: his personality affected Middle East peace policy, since he has no patience for those who obstruct achievement. The result was expanding Middle East peace, despite the bunched-panty hand-wringing of the establishment limp wrists.

    Jeff Hawkins (View Comment):

    Gorka’s salespitch is exactly why Klavan is correct.

    Trump has no idea how to get things done in a system he doesn’t know and doesn’t know how to clean up a system that will work against him. 4 years proved that.

    Yes, let’s put the federal government back in the hands of the unaccountable bureaucrats where it belongs.</sarcasm>

    Trump didn’t know how to negotiate peace in the Middle East, either. Yet he negotiated more Middle East peace treaties than the last 6 Presidents combined.

    I have no problem with Trump’s very real accomplishments in regards to Middle East peace. And I will happily attribute that to his having no attachment to the prevailing “wisdom”, which was that nothing could be accomplished without dealing with the Palestinians. Go Trump. But that doesn’t negate the areas where his personality did affect his policies in a negative manner.

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  13. Painter Jean Member
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    @PainterJean

    Taras (View Comment):

    LibertyDefender (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    His personality affects policy, unfortunately. I wish it didn’t, but it does.

    How?

    I’ll start: his personality affected Middle East peace policy, since he has no patience for those who obstruct achievement. The result was expanding Middle East peace, despite the bunched-panty hand-wringing of the establishment limp wrists.

    Jeff Hawkins (View Comment):

    Gorka’s salespitch is exactly why Klavan is correct.

    Trump has no idea how to get things done in a system he doesn’t know and doesn’t know how to clean up a system that will work against him. 4 years proved that.

    Yes, let’s put the federal government back in the hands of the unaccountable bureaucrats where it belongs.</sarcasm>

    Trump didn’t know how to negotiate peace in the Middle East, either. Yet he negotiated more Middle East peace treaties than the last 6 Presidents combined.

    When Democrats and the permanent State Department bureaucracy talk about Mideast peace, they really mean Israel being coerced into making one-sided concessions to the Palestinians. (“Land for [empty promises of] peace.”) For the more left-leaning in both groups, this is a useful step toward the ultimate goal, the abolition of Israel.

    The Trump administration was successful in seeking Mideast peace because it actually sought Mideast peace, unlike most of the administrations that preceded it.

    Yes, I agree! But that doesn’t make a case for me voting for him. I think the good things he brought to the political landscape are best done by someone younger and without his negatives. I’m not going to vote for him, and Gorka made it very clear to me that my vote wasn’t wanted anyway. Mission accomplished, Gorka. 

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  14. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    LibertyDefender (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    His personality affects policy, unfortunately. I wish it didn’t, but it does.

    How?

    I’ll start: his personality affected Middle East peace policy, since he has no patience for those who obstruct achievement. The result was expanding Middle East peace, despite the bunched-panty hand-wringing of the establishment limp wrists.

    Jeff Hawkins (View Comment):

    Gorka’s salespitch is exactly why Klavan is correct.

    Trump has no idea how to get things done in a system he doesn’t know and doesn’t know how to clean up a system that will work against him. 4 years proved that.

    Yes, let’s put the federal government back in the hands of the unaccountable bureaucrats where it belongs.</sarcasm>

    Trump didn’t know how to negotiate peace in the Middle East, either. Yet he negotiated more Middle East peace treaties than the last 6 Presidents combined.

    When Democrats and the permanent State Department bureaucracy talk about Mideast peace, they really mean Israel being coerced into making one-sided concessions to the Palestinians. (“Land for [empty promises of] peace.”) For the more left-leaning in both groups, this is a useful step toward the ultimate goal, the abolition of Israel.

    The Trump administration was successful in seeking Mideast peace because it actually sought Mideast peace, unlike most of the administrations that preceded it.

    Yes, I agree! But that doesn’t make a case for me voting for him. I think the good things he brought to the political landscape are best done by someone younger and without his negatives. I’m not going to vote for him, and Gorka made it very clear to me that my vote wasn’t wanted anyway. Mission accomplished, Gorka.

    “Someone younger and without his negatives” — As far as I know, no younger clone of Donald Trump exists; he wouldn’t have Trump’s half century of experience operating at the highest levels of business and politics, anyway.  And the media will hang the negatives on whoever is the next Republican candidate.

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  15. Painter Jean Member
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    @PainterJean

    Taras (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    LibertyDefender (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    His personality affects policy, unfortunately. I wish it didn’t, but it does.

    How?

    I’ll start: his personality affected Middle East peace policy, since he has no patience for those who obstruct achievement. The result was expanding Middle East peace, despite the bunched-panty hand-wringing of the establishment limp wrists.

    Jeff Hawkins (View Comment):

    Gorka’s salespitch is exactly why Klavan is correct.

    Trump has no idea how to get things done in a system he doesn’t know and doesn’t know how to clean up a system that will work against him. 4 years proved that.

    Yes, let’s put the federal government back in the hands of the unaccountable bureaucrats where it belongs.</sarcasm>

    Trump didn’t know how to negotiate peace in the Middle East, either. Yet he negotiated more Middle East peace treaties than the last 6 Presidents combined.

    When Democrats and the permanent State Department bureaucracy talk about Mideast peace, they really mean Israel being coerced into making one-sided concessions to the Palestinians. (“Land for [empty promises of] peace.”) For the more left-leaning in both groups, this is a useful step toward the ultimate goal, the abolition of Israel.

    The Trump administration was successful in seeking Mideast peace because it actually sought Mideast peace, unlike most of the administrations that preceded it.

    Yes, I agree! But that doesn’t make a case for me voting for him. I think the good things he brought to the political landscape are best done by someone younger and without his negatives. I’m not going to vote for him, and Gorka made it very clear to me that my vote wasn’t wanted anyway. Mission accomplished, Gorka.

    “Someone younger and without his negatives” — As far as I know, no younger clone of Donald Trump exists; he wouldn’t have Trump’s half century of experience operating at the highest levels of business and politics, anyway. And the media will hang the negatives on whoever is the next Republican candidate.

    I’m not looking for a “younger clone of Donald Trump.” I want someone who can carry on the best aspects of some of Trump’s policies without being so mired in the past. Trump wants to re-litigate 2020 , and I think that’s a losing strategy. He’s an old guy – can we PLEASE have a candidate who’s not ancient?! I don’t want a clone of Trump, I want someone who can go forward bringing the best of Trump’s policies without all of Trumps’s negatives, and yes, someone who is not old.

     

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  16. LibertyDefender Member
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    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    LibertyDefender (View Comment):

    Trump didn’t know how to negotiate peace in the Middle East, either. Yet he negotiated more Middle East peace treaties than the last 6 Presidents combined.

    When Democrats and the permanent State Department bureaucracy talk about Mideast peace, they really mean Israel being coerced into making one-sided concessions to the Palestinians. (“Land for [empty promises of] peace.”) For the more left-leaning in both groups, this is a useful step toward the ultimate goal, the abolition of Israel.

    The Trump administration was successful in seeking Mideast peace because it actually sought Mideast peace, unlike most of the administrations that preceded it.

    Yes, I agree! But that doesn’t make a case for me voting for him. I think the good things he brought to the political landscape are best done by someone younger and without his negatives. I’m not going to vote for him, and Gorka made it very clear to me that my vote wasn’t wanted anyway. Mission accomplished, Gorka.

    You agree!  That’s great.

    “I think the good things he brought to the political landscape”

    Three posts in, and Painter Jean has still not specified a single actual, tangible thing – good or otherwise about Trump.  What specific good things do you think he brought to the political landscape?  Here’s a list of policies/political actions, off the top of my head:

    • Approval of Keystone XL pipeline;
    • Expansion of oil and gas leases on federal lands, including ANWR;
    • Cutting the corporate tax rate to 21% AND extending tax amnesty to $TRILLIONS of repatriated capital;
    • Confronting China on unfair trade practices AND on theft of intellectual property;
    • Confronting North Korea on nuclear weapons proliferation;
    • Withdrawal from JCPOA/Iran Nuclear deal;
    • Withdrawal from Paris Climate Accord;
    • Complete destruction of ISIS and the assassination of Qasem Suleimani;
    • Convincing NATO allies to abide by their military spending commitments;
    • Aggressive reduction of business-strangling regulations;
    • Removing the Obamacare penalty for not obtaining overpriced healthcare insurance;
    • Negotiating and signing four (4) Mideast peace treaties;
    • Replacing NAFTA with US-Mexico-Canada Agreement;
    • The First Step Act’s criminal justice reform (personally, not my definition of a good thing);
    • Above-board, explicit support for Taiwan vs. China;
    • Operation Warp Speed – which produced three (3) vaccines in record time (1 year vs. typically 10 years);
    • Exposing the complete, integrated corruption of the federal government through its collusion with the Democrat Party and the Fake News media to fabricate stories and use those fabrications to commit treason by attempting the overthrow of the United States government;

    Pick any from this list, or come up with some of your own – I’m sure you can think of others.

    It seems that complaints about Trump are always about unspecified personality defects, NEVER are they about policy (except in say, the rare case where a thoughtful commenter on the right objects to the First Step Act’s leniency on serious criminals).

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  17. Manny Member
    Manny
    @Manny

    No question, Trump’s baggage drags him down.  It’s not a question of getting the conservatives to vote for him.  It’s the independents.  Gorka isn’t thinking rationally.  I haven’t decided if I will support Trump in the primary, but if he wins the primary I will certainly vote for him.  But he is not the best person for the future.  Plus, he will be a lame duck going in.  I agree with Klavan.  

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  18. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    Manny (View Comment):

    No question, Trump’s baggage drags him down. It’s not a question of getting the conservatives to vote for him. It’s the independents. Gorka isn’t thinking rationally. I haven’t decided if I will support Trump in the primary, but if he wins the primary I will certainly vote for him. But he is not the best person for the future. Plus, he will be a lame duck going in. I agree with Klavan.

    I’ve started Molly Hemingway’s Rigged.

    When you consider how the Democrats had to pull out all the stops just to narrowly defeat Trump, he immediately becomes the obvious frontrunner.

    Indeed, recent polls show buyer’s remorse:  if the election were held today, Trump would win easily.  Also, there is no reason to suppose that a generic Republican would attract the same support from the working class and minorities.

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  19. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    LibertyDefender (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    His personality affects policy, unfortunately. I wish it didn’t, but it does.

    How?

    I’ll start: his personality affected Middle East peace policy, since he has no patience for those who obstruct achievement. The result was expanding Middle East peace, despite the bunched-panty hand-wringing of the establishment limp wrists.

    Jeff Hawkins (View Comment):

    Gorka’s salespitch is exactly why Klavan is correct.

    Trump has no idea how to get things done in a system he doesn’t know and doesn’t know how to clean up a system that will work against him. 4 years proved that.

    Yes, let’s put the federal government back in the hands of the unaccountable bureaucrats where it belongs.</sarcasm>

    Trump didn’t know how to negotiate peace in the Middle East, either. Yet he negotiated more Middle East peace treaties than the last 6 Presidents combined.

    When Democrats and the permanent State Department bureaucracy talk about Mideast peace, they really mean Israel being coerced into making one-sided concessions to the Palestinians. (“Land for [empty promises of] peace.”) For the more left-leaning in both groups, this is a useful step toward the ultimate goal, the abolition of Israel.

    The Trump administration was successful in seeking Mideast peace because it actually sought Mideast peace, unlike most of the administrations that preceded it.

    Yes, I agree! But that doesn’t make a case for me voting for him. I think the good things he brought to the political landscape are best done by someone younger and without his negatives. I’m not going to vote for him, and Gorka made it very clear to me that my vote wasn’t wanted anyway. Mission accomplished, Gorka.

    “Someone younger and without his negatives” — As far as I know, no younger clone of Donald Trump exists; he wouldn’t have Trump’s half century of experience operating at the highest levels of business and politics, anyway. And the media will hang the negatives on whoever is the next Republican candidate.

    I’m not looking for a “younger clone of Donald Trump.” I want someone who can carry on the best aspects of some of Trump’s policies without being so mired in the past. Trump wants to re-litigate 2020 , and I think that’s a losing strategy. He’s an old guy – can we PLEASE have a candidate who’s not ancient?! I don’t want a clone of Trump, I want someone who can go forward bringing the best of Trump’s policies without all of Trumps’s negatives, and yes, someone who is not old.

    For the Democrats, the strongest candidate is an unknown, so that the liberal media can deify him.

    For the Republicans, the strongest candidate is someone very well-known, so that the liberal media have a hard time demonizing him.

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  20. Manny Member
    Manny
    @Manny

    Taras (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    No question, Trump’s baggage drags him down. It’s not a question of getting the conservatives to vote for him. It’s the independents. Gorka isn’t thinking rationally. I haven’t decided if I will support Trump in the primary, but if he wins the primary I will certainly vote for him. But he is not the best person for the future. Plus, he will be a lame duck going in. I agree with Klavan.

    I’ve started Molly Hemingway’s Rigged.

    When you consider how the Democrats had to pull out all the stops just to narrowly defeat Trump, he immediately becomes the obvious frontrunner.

    Indeed, recent polls show buyer’s remorse: if the election were held today, Trump would win easily. Also, there is no reason to suppose that a generic Republican would attract the same support from the working class and minorities.

    Look at how much of a turnout a nothing like Biden drew. They didn’t come out for Biden. They came out against Trump. And with Biden at 41% favorability is even with Trump. That’s a terrible sign and I doubt Biden is running. Trump will have to go against someone that is free of Biden’s messes. Maybe Trump will win but clearly he’s not the best candidate for the Republicans. 

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  21. Taras Coolidge
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    Manny (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    No question, Trump’s baggage drags him down. It’s not a question of getting the conservatives to vote for him. It’s the independents. Gorka isn’t thinking rationally. I haven’t decided if I will support Trump in the primary, but if he wins the primary I will certainly vote for him. But he is not the best person for the future. Plus, he will be a lame duck going in. I agree with Klavan.

    I’ve started Molly Hemingway’s Rigged.

    When you consider how the Democrats had to pull out all the stops just to narrowly defeat Trump, he immediately becomes the obvious frontrunner.

    Indeed, recent polls show buyer’s remorse: if the election were held today, Trump would win easily. Also, there is no reason to suppose that a generic Republican would attract the same support from the working class and minorities.

    Look at how much of a turnout a nothing like Biden drew. They didn’t come out for Biden. They came out against Trump. And with Biden at 41% favorability is even with Trump. That’s a terrible sign and I doubt Biden is running. Trump will have to go against someone that is free of Biden’s messes. Maybe Trump will win but clearly he’s not the best candidate for the Republicans.

    If Trump is “clearly … not the best candidate for the Republicans,” then you must know who is.  OK, give.

    Remember, social media had to suppress the Hunter Biden story, and Mark Zuckerberg had to contribute $420 million through a loophole, and election laws had to be illegally altered, to give Joe Biden a 40,000-vote winning margin in three states.  Note that a lot of what was done in 2020 will not be repeatable in 2024:  Republicans are ready this time, and loopholes have been shut.

    Joe Biden’s “turnout” was the product of exceptionally lax rules relating to mail balloting.

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  22. Manny Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    No question, Trump’s baggage drags him down. It’s not a question of getting the conservatives to vote for him. It’s the independents. Gorka isn’t thinking rationally. I haven’t decided if I will support Trump in the primary, but if he wins the primary I will certainly vote for him. But he is not the best person for the future. Plus, he will be a lame duck going in. I agree with Klavan.

    I’ve started Molly Hemingway’s Rigged.

    When you consider how the Democrats had to pull out all the stops just to narrowly defeat Trump, he immediately becomes the obvious frontrunner.

    Indeed, recent polls show buyer’s remorse: if the election were held today, Trump would win easily. Also, there is no reason to suppose that a generic Republican would attract the same support from the working class and minorities.

    Look at how much of a turnout a nothing like Biden drew. They didn’t come out for Biden. They came out against Trump. And with Biden at 41% favorability is even with Trump. That’s a terrible sign and I doubt Biden is running. Trump will have to go against someone that is free of Biden’s messes. Maybe Trump will win but clearly he’s not the best candidate for the Republicans.

    If Trump is “clearly … not the best candidate for the Republicans,” then you must know who is. OK, give.

    Remember, social media had to suppress the Hunter Biden story, and Mark Zuckerberg had to contribute $420 million through a loophole, and election laws had to be illegally altered, to give Joe Biden a 40,000-vote winning margin in three states. Note that a lot of what was done in 2020 will not be repeatable in 2024: Republicans are ready this time, and loopholes have been shut.

    Joe Biden’s “turnout” was the product of exceptionally lax rules relating to mail balloting.

    There are plenty. The primary will determine it. You’re obviously one of those who never give up and make a pest of themselves. You’re obsessed. 

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  23. Taras Coolidge
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    Manny (View Comment):

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    Manny (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    No question, Trump’s baggage drags him down. It’s not a question of getting the conservatives to vote for him. It’s the independents. Gorka isn’t thinking rationally. I haven’t decided if I will support Trump in the primary, but if he wins the primary I will certainly vote for him. But he is not the best person for the future. Plus, he will be a lame duck going in. I agree with Klavan.

    I’ve started Molly Hemingway’s Rigged.

    When you consider how the Democrats had to pull out all the stops just to narrowly defeat Trump, he immediately becomes the obvious frontrunner.

    Indeed, recent polls show buyer’s remorse: if the election were held today, Trump would win easily. Also, there is no reason to suppose that a generic Republican would attract the same support from the working class and minorities.

    Look at how much of a turnout a nothing like Biden drew. They didn’t come out for Biden. They came out against Trump. And with Biden at 41% favorability is even with Trump. That’s a terrible sign and I doubt Biden is running. Trump will have to go against someone that is free of Biden’s messes. Maybe Trump will win but clearly he’s not the best candidate for the Republicans.

    If Trump is “clearly … not the best candidate for the Republicans,” then you must know who is. OK, give.

    Remember, social media had to suppress the Hunter Biden story, and Mark Zuckerberg had to contribute $420 million through a loophole, and election laws had to be illegally altered, to give Joe Biden a 40,000-vote winning margin in three states. Note that a lot of what was done in 2020 will not be repeatable in 2024: Republicans are ready this time, and loopholes have been shut.

    Joe Biden’s “turnout” was the product of exceptionally lax rules relating to mail balloting.

    There are plenty. The primary will determine it. You’re obviously one of those who never give up and make a pest of themselves. You’re obsessed.

    A serious primary challenge to the “incumbent” Republican Trump — in the unlikely chance there is such a challenge — would guarantee a Democrat win in the general election.  After all, neither Trump nor his supporters would “go gentle”.

    Note that the operative word here is “serious”.  A more likely scenario is a fake Republican like Lynne Cheney with big Demo bucks behind her.  In an open primary, she might pick up some Democratic votes; depending, of course, on what is going on in the Democratic primary race.  And depending on the level of fraud the Dems permit in that particular State.

    The real alternatives for 2024 are either Trump, or “candidate approved by Trump”.  The smarter potential candidates know this.

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  24. LibertyDefender Member
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    Manny (View Comment):

    No question, Trump’s baggage drags him down. It’s not a question of getting the conservatives to vote for him. It’s the independents. Gorka isn’t thinking rationally. I haven’t decided if I will support Trump in the primary, but if he wins the primary I will certainly vote for him. But he is not the best person for the future. Plus, he will be a lame duck going in. I agree with Klavan.

    “Trump’s baggage.”  Again, only vague, undefined complaints about Trump, no mention of policy.

    If you’re not interested in voting for Trump, then you’re okay with all of the following conservative policy successes being reversed:

    • Standing with Supreme Court nominees no matter the intensity of the Media/Dems’ lies;
    • Approval of Keystone XL pipeline;
    • Expansion of oil and gas leases on federal lands, including ANWR;
    • Corporate tax rate lowered to 21%;
    • Confronting China on unfair trade practices AND on theft of intellectual property;
    • Confronting North Korea on nuclear weapons proliferation;
    • Withdrawal from JCPOA/Iran Nuclear deal;
    • Withdrawal from Paris Climate Accord;
    • Complete destruction of ISIS;
    • Attacking and killing Russian-backed Syrians who hassle Israeli troops;
    • NATO allies adhering better to their military spending commitments;
    • Aggressive reduction of business-strangling regulations;
    • Removal of the Obamacare penalty;
    • Above-board, explicit support for Taiwan vs. China;
    • Expanding Middle East peace;
    • Exposure of the complete, integrated corruption of the federal government through its collusion with the Democrat Party and the Fake News media to fabricate stories and use those fabrications to commit treason by attempting the overthrow of the United States government;

    Because only Trump can bring those conservative successes back.  No other Republican can, most Republicans won’t even try.

    Taras (View Comment):
    A serious primary challenge to the “incumbent” Republican Trump — in the unlikely chance there is such a challenge — would guarantee a Democrat win in the general election.  After all, neither Trump nor his supporters would “go gentle”.

    Conrad Black’s contrary take is that the Republican brand has today achieved invincibility, and therefore the Republican nominee in 2024 is guaranteed a victory.  He further predicts that if Trump runs, he sweeps every primary and caucus.  I strongly agree with the latter, and I’m inclined to agree with the former, despite the Republican Party’s proven history of blowing leads.

    Any Democrat nominee will have to (1) defend Biden’s record and (2) placate the insane leftist base of the Democrat Party.  The voting public is finally at the point where a majority isn’t buying what the Democrat/Media Complex is selling.  That might be so great a handicap on the Dems that even the Republicans can’t lose no matter how many times they trip themselves and fall during the race.

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  25. Taras Coolidge
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    LibertyDefender (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    No question, Trump’s baggage drags him down. It’s not a question of getting the conservatives to vote for him. It’s the independents. Gorka isn’t thinking rationally. I haven’t decided if I will support Trump in the primary, but if he wins the primary I will certainly vote for him. But he is not the best person for the future. Plus, he will be a lame duck going in. I agree with Klavan.

    “Trump’s baggage.” Again, only vague, undefined complaints about Trump, no mention of policy.

    If you’re not interested in voting for Trump, then you’re okay with all of the following conservative policy successes being reversed:

    • Standing with Supreme Court nominees no matter the intensity of the Media/Dems’ lies;
    • Approval of Keystone XL pipeline;
    • Expansion of oil and gas leases on federal lands, including ANWR;
    • Corporate tax rate lowered to 21%;
    • Confronting China on unfair trade practices AND on theft of intellectual property;
    • Confronting North Korea on nuclear weapons proliferation;
    • Withdrawal from JCPOA/Iran Nuclear deal;
    • Withdrawal from Paris Climate Accord;
    • Complete destruction of ISIS;
    • Attacking and killing Russian-backed Syrians who hassle Israeli troops;
    • NATO allies adhering better to their military spending commitments;
    • Aggressive reduction of business-strangling regulations;
    • Removal of the Obamacare penalty;
    • Above-board, explicit support for Taiwan vs. China;
    • Expanding Middle East peace;
    • Exposure of the complete, integrated corruption of the federal government through its collusion with the Democrat Party and the Fake News media to fabricate stories and use those fabrications to commit treason by attempting the overthrow of the United States government;

    Because only Trump can bring those conservative successes back. No other Republican can, most Republicans won’t even try.

    Taras (View Comment):
    A serious primary challenge to the “incumbent” Republican Trump — in the unlikely chance there is such a challenge — would guarantee a Democrat win in the general election. After all, neither Trump nor his supporters would “go gentle”.

    Conrad Black’s contrary take is that the Republican brand has today achieved invincibility, and therefore the Republican nominee in 2024 is guaranteed a victory. He further predicts that if Trump runs, he sweeps every primary and caucus. I strongly agree with the latter, and I’m inclined to agree with the former, despite the Republican Party’s proven history of blowing leads.

    Any Democrat nominee will have to (1) defend Biden’s record and (2) placate the insane leftist base of the Democrat Party. The voting public is finally at the point where a majority isn’t buying what the Democrat/Media Complex is selling. That might be so great a handicap on the Dems that even the Republicans can’t lose no matter how many times they trip themselves and fall during the race.

    The Dems won’t have to defend Biden’s record:  media and social media will take care of  it.  Also, the “insane leftist base” knows to go quiet during general elections.

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  26. LibertyDefender Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    A serious primary challenge to the “incumbent” Republican Trump — in the unlikely chance there is such a challenge — would guarantee a Democrat win in the general election. After all, neither Trump nor his supporters would “go gentle”.

    LibertyDefender (View Comment):

    Conrad Black’s contrary take is that the Republican brand has today achieved invincibility, and therefore the Republican nominee in 2024 is guaranteed a victory. He further predicts that if Trump runs, he sweeps every primary and caucus. I strongly agree with the latter, and I’m inclined to agree with the former, despite the Republican Party’s proven history of blowing leads.

    Any Democrat nominee will have to (1) defend Biden’s record and (2) placate the insane leftist base of the Democrat Party. The voting public is finally at the point where a majority isn’t buying what the Democrat/Media Complex is selling. That might be so great a handicap on the Dems that even the Republicans can’t lose no matter how many times they trip themselves and fall during the race.

    The Dems won’t have to defend Biden’s record:  media and social media will take care of  it.  Also, the “insane leftist base” knows to go quiet during general elections.

    I don’t disagree with you or with Conrad Black, but I do think the landscape is changing/has changed lately, especially with the disaster known as the Biden presidency occurring simultaneously with several other events that the “low information” (i.e. Democrat) voters are finally grasping:

    • There is no distinction between the media and the Democrat Party, and they are together promoting
      • Radical Gender Theory that is causing high school girls to get raped and that is destroying girls sports;
      • Anti-racism/Critical Race Theory that is teaching children that America is evil and everyone is racist except blacks;
      • Defund the police, which is causing massive increases in crime and violent deaths;
      • Bald-faced lies about CoViD-19 and the vaccines;

    as well as the idea that Hunter Biden’s laptop is Russian disinformation.

    I think at this point, it’s likely that in 2024 even Democrat voters won’t buy what the Democrat/Media Complex is selling. The insane leftist base of the Democrat Party might stay quiet, but they’ll never vote for a moderate candidate in any primary or caucus.  Even if they wanted to do so, where in the Democrat Party is such a candidate?  The party ignored Tulsi Gabbard in 2016, and since that time it has treated her rather viciously.

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