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  1. rdowhower Coolidge

    Cato people are nuts. Can’t believe that guy gets paid to do what he does. Master of cliches. Because of course all the guest workers would play by the rules and always go home when they’re supposed to. But we do need them to do the jobs that Americans won’t do, after all.

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    • January 31, 2019, at 12:52 PM PDT
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  2. Rightfromthestart Coolidge

    Beautifully stated about Mrs. Maisel, having worked long and hard starting from very litttle to achieve a middle class comfortable secure lifestyle. I get antsy when ever I see a show about someone who has what I consider everything and then just throws it away, I can no longer watch , I’m not interested after that. It’s like watching a fairy tale in reverse. 

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    • January 31, 2019, at 3:02 PM PDT
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  3. Brent Chambers Member

    The more the Cato guy repeated “peer reviewed literature” the less I believed him. The global warming propaganda is peer reviewed also.

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    • January 31, 2019, at 5:34 PM PDT
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  4. filmklassik Member

    Great episode. One of Andrew’s best, because he’s touching on something that is at once crucifyingly important, but most Conservatives never even think about.

    Fact: It is not mostly about the culture, folks. It is all about the culture — first, last, and everything in between.

    But for most Conservatives, it is always about individual elections.

    The fools.

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    • January 31, 2019, at 8:16 PM PDT
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  5. Hartmann von Aue Member

    “Thinks he can run on his own as an independent …that’s just an f***** awful thing to do.” I have to admit that I was startled at the depth of entitled, self-righteous, not-so-crypto totalitarian thinking that Favreau so openly expressed. How dare that Schulz man think he could run for President in the party of his own choice.

    And the reprehensible Ms. Occasional Cortex? She sounds like a child, both in her locution and the non-ideas that escape her vacuous head through that perpetually open maw.

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    • February 1, 2019, at 1:09 AM PDT
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  6. filmklassik Member

    And many of the comments on this thread will, no doubt, only serve to prove my point.

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    • February 1, 2019, at 7:12 AM PDT
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  7. JimGoneWild Coolidge

    Oh, wow! The whole and only reason the Left want no borders and mass immigration is for VOTES. Not. Even. Mentioned. Shame.

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    • February 1, 2019, at 8:21 AM PDT
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  8. JimGoneWild Coolidge

    From Ann Coulter yesterday ..

    In fact, bringing in poverty-stricken immigrants is a disaster for the welfare programs intended to help our fellow Americans. Fully half of all non-citizens in the United States are on at least one welfare program, according to the (very non-MAGA) Migration Policy Institute.

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    • February 1, 2019, at 8:37 AM PDT
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  9. Manny Member

    Mr. Klavan, you are the best! This was super! I’m not into podcasts, but I now feel compelled to listen to yours.

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    • February 1, 2019, at 11:36 AM PDT
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  10. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member

    A few comments about the guest:

    (1) He stated that the composition of illegal immigration has changed, from single men to families. There is no mention of why that might be, though the answer seems obvious to me. DACA. If you adopt a policy saying that illegal immigrant children can stay, you’re going to get a lot of them.

    (2) His statements about crime are not just based on possibly dubious statistics, but seem incoherent to me. He says: “There is no evidence that illegal immigrants increase crime in the United States.” This can only be true if there is absolutely zero — zilch, nada — crime committed by illegal immigrants. He then shifts to what seems to be a non-sequitur, which is that Cato/Libertarian claim that crime among illegal immigrants is lower than among Americans and/or legal immigrants. Depending on whether illegal immigrants are more or less likely to be victims or crime, significant deportation may or may not result in a lower crime rate among the non-illegal population.

    (3) Another non-sequitur: His claim that crime, particular murder rates, is lower in the border counties than the national average. Sure — because Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, and the other cities with very high homicide rates are not along the borders.

    (4) I really don’t understand the Cato position that bringing in large number of low-skilled, low-wage immigrants is going to be good for America. This depresses the wages of the poorest Americans. I do agree that, economically speaking and without considering the cost of government services (including welfare and education), it is economically better for higher income Americans to have such immigration, as it would tend to lower prices. But the cost of such a policy is concentrated among the most vulnerable Americans, as the guest acknowledges.

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    • February 1, 2019, at 12:53 PM PDT
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  11. filmklassik Member

    Update:

    Yep, the last few posts have absolutely proved my point. Just a few wonky posts about misconceptions and factual errors in the immigration debate.

    But where the culture is concerned? Nothing. Nada. Crickets.

    We are so doomed.

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    • February 1, 2019, at 2:04 PM PDT
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  12. Mrs. Ink Member

    The Cato Institute guest never mentioned the kinds of crimes that illegals commit, namely drunken driving, spouse and child abuse, sexual abuse of children. While it may be true that the whole population of illegals commit crimes at a lower rate, their rate of violent and sex crime is higher, because they come from cultures where sexual abuse is considered normal.

    They also do not share our values with regard to rule of law, littering, or pets. The law in their home countries is whatever the local powers that be say it is. My community is currently having a parvo epidemic, because the illegals here do not vaccinate their dogs.

    I wish that Mr. Klavan had pushed back harder on the rule of law issue, because that is the central problem. We either have rule of law or we don’t. Democrats are making rule of law a thing of the past, and as Mr. Klavan points out, once the idea that the rule of law doesn’t matter, our culture will lose more of the stuff that made us the greatest nation on earth.

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    • February 2, 2019, at 7:03 AM PDT
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  13. Mrs. Ink Member

    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    Beautifully stated about Mrs. Maisel, having worked long and hard starting from very litttle to achieve a middle class comfortable secure lifestyle. I get antsy when ever I see a show about someone who has what I consider everything and then just throws it away, I can no longer watch , I’m not interested after that. It’s like watching a fairy tale in reverse.

    In defense of Mrs. Maisel, she wasn’t the one who threw her marriage away-her husband threw her and their children away. I see her actions after that as attempts to retain the independence she had as a married woman.

     

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    • February 2, 2019, at 7:09 AM PDT
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  14. Ed G. Member

    Arizona Patriot (View Comment):
    (3) Another non-sequitur: His claim that crime, particular murder rates, is lower in the border counties than the national average. Sure — because Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, and the other cities with very high homicide rates are not along the borders.

    I can’t speak for Detroit or Baltimore, but Chicago has been an immigration entry point or destination point for more than one hundred years. Our murder and crime rate here are certainly part of the immigration problem. 

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    • February 4, 2019, at 1:42 PM PDT
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