This week, the Oscar’s colossal screw up, a post mortem on CPAC, so long to the great Bill Paxton, and why his film A Simple Plan may be one of the best conservative movies ever made.

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  1. Profile photo of Kozak Coolidge

    LaLa Land won the popular vote.

    • #1
    • February 27, 2017 at 10:11 am
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  2. Profile photo of JL Member
    JL

    Kozak (View Comment):
    LaLa Land won the popular vote.

    LMAO!!!

    • #2
    • February 27, 2017 at 12:09 pm
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  3. Profile photo of Arahant Member

    So, you know how the Car Guys on NPR used to announce at the end that they were part of NPR with a disclaimer, such as: “Even though Nina Totenberg takes too many sleeping pills every time she hears us say it, this is NPR.” I feel like you guys ought to be having a disclaimer like that for Ricochet, such as, “Even though Peter Robinson tightens the sleeves of his sweater around his neck hoping to asphyxiate every time we say it, this is Ricochet.”

    Also, on a more critical note, could you guys try not to walk over each other so much? Several points got missed. John is the worst about talking over other people, although there was at least one time today where I think he was going to say something brilliant, but Rob walked over him and the point was lost.

    • #3
    • February 27, 2017 at 12:24 pm
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  4. Profile photo of FredGoodhue Coolidge

    Kato Kaelin is the only person I know of who lived in a Hollywood celebrity home’s apartment. This is not a precedent that Faye Dunaway would want.

    • #4
    • February 27, 2017 at 12:25 pm
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  5. Profile photo of Cunctator Inactive

    The issue is that the design and font of the cards; poorly formatted. “Best Picture” is located in small font at the bottom of the card – in the moment, an octogenarian (and maybe me) is going to look to the bigger font. Well, they did put “Oscars” at the top of the card in case presenters forget where they are

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    • February 27, 2017 at 12:29 pm
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  6. Profile photo of Blue Yeti Admin

    Cunctator (View Comment):
    The issue is that the design and font of the cards; poorly formatted. “Best Picture” is located in small font at the bottom of the card – in the moment, an octogenarian (and maybe me) is going to look to the bigger font. Well, they did put “Oscars” at the top of the card in case presenters forget where they are

    No, the issue was that Beatty was given the wrong card:

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    • February 27, 2017 at 1:12 pm
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  7. Profile photo of JL Member
    JL

    It’s all a farce until they rectify the travesties of the past: The Heat of The Night; Groundhogs Day; The Big Lebowski; and the greatest movie of all time:

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    • February 27, 2017 at 1:19 pm
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  8. Profile photo of Cunctator Inactive

    Yes Blue Yeti, but what I meant (and didn’t flesh out) is that the issue is *after having been given the wrong card*, it wasn’t apparent to Beatty that the wrong card had been given to him, the winner *category* appears in minute font at the bottom

    Had the card been better designed, he would have realized his mistake in advance.

    I can’t attach a photo of the exact card with Moonlight as “Best Picture” – but if you look at it you will see exactly what I mean.

    They didn’t foolproof it. He was given a card that said

    OSCARS

    Emma Stone

    La La Land

    Best actress”

    If it had been simply “Best Actress: Emma Stone” he would have realized the error in advance; problem avoided

    • #8
    • February 27, 2017 at 1:22 pm
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  9. Profile photo of Percival Thatcher

    It’s all very simple.

    • Kyle Schwarber screwed up his knee in a collision with Dexter Fowler in the third game of the season last year.
    • Doctors announced that it was a season-ending injury as Schwarber would be out until at least the end of October.
    • Some wag noted that that meant that if the Cubs won the pennant, Schwarber could theoretically be back in time for the World Series. It became a season-long joke: “just win the pennant, and we’ve got this knocked.
    • The Cubs won the pennant.
    • Joe Maddon reactivated Schwarber for the Series.

    Thus was the warp and woof of reality permanently stretched out of shape.

    • #9
    • February 27, 2017 at 5:03 pm
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  10. Profile photo of kylez Member

    “Even though Peter Robinson tightens the sleeves of his sweater around his neck hoping to asphyxiate every time we say it, this is Ricochet.”

    It was funny hearing him say the Ricochet thing after the Fishheads song.

    • #10
    • February 27, 2017 at 6:47 pm
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  11. Profile photo of Blue Yeti Admin

    Cunctator (View Comment):If it had been simply “Best Actress: Emma Stone” he would have realized the error in advance; problem avoided

    To your point:

    http://radaronline.com/videos/oscars-2017-best-picture-what-happened/

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    • February 27, 2017 at 10:04 pm
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  12. Profile photo of Miffed White Male Member

    Cunctator (View Comment):
    Yes Blue Yeti, but what I meant (and didn’t flesh out) is that the issue is *after having been given the wrong card*, it wasn’t apparent to Beatty that the wrong card had been given to him, the winner *category* appears in minute font at the bottom

    Had the card been better designed, he would have realized his mistake in advance.

    I can’t attach a photo of the exact card with Moonlight as “Best Picture” – but if you look at it you will see exactly what I mean.

    They didn’t foolproof it. He was given a card that said

    OSCARS

    Emma Stone

    La La Land

    Best actress”

    If it had been simply “Best Actress: Emma Stone” he would have realized the error in advance; problem avoided

    Warren Beatty clearly realized there was a problem. His mistake was handing the card to Faye Dunaway who went ahead and read it out loud.

    The bright side of this is, the jokes for next years Oscar telecast write themselves. Heck, they’ve probably got it half done already.

    • #12
    • February 28, 2017 at 7:44 am
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  13. Profile photo of J Climacus Member

    Great podcast, but please stop shouting over each other. I end up having to pull my ear buds out until its over.

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    • February 28, 2017 at 7:56 am
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  14. Profile photo of Valiuth Member

    The idea that some how we are living in some alternate time line is quite fun. It actually put me in mind of the Ray Bradbury’s classic short story A Sound of Thunder.

    In fact given the story’s set up as occuring after an election where the “good” candidate wins narrowly over the bad one it almost seems tailor made for a modern adaptation.

    • #14
    • February 28, 2017 at 2:25 pm
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  15. Profile photo of Casey Member

    Regarding weird stuff, let’s not forget that the current president established himself as a legitimate candidate by challenging Jonah’s ability to buy pants.

    I’m pretty sure that’s a world historical first.

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    • February 28, 2017 at 7:15 pm
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  16. Profile photo of Sabrdance Member

    1.) I reiterate my concurrence with Michael Brendan Dougherty that everything since the Cubs is God smiting us for hubris, and if we don’t take the lesson to heart, God might upgrade from bizarre and embarrassing to just flat out fire and brimstone. And I’m only like 30% joking.

    2.) Wasn’t the bad text design on the cards what tripped up Steve Harvey? Sheesh.

    3.) As the Ricochet Meet-up Originator of the phrase euphemistically rendered “mammaries up,” I would like to continue noting that this is bizarre place to censor the language, but if we must do so, the proper form is “Mams Vertical.”

    • #16
    • February 28, 2017 at 10:28 pm
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  17. Profile photo of Eustace C. Scrubb Member

    Well, One False Move wasn’t exactly Billy Bob Thorton’s debut. There was Copper Chicks in Zombietown.

    • #17
    • March 2, 2017 at 2:25 am
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  18. Profile photo of Eustace C. Scrubb Member

    Bill Paxton’s Frailty was just added to Netflix.

    • #18
    • March 2, 2017 at 7:15 am
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    Eustace C. Scrubb (View Comment):
    Bill Paxton’s Frailty was just added to Netflix.

    Just watched it last night. Dark, but compelling. I appreciated the actual murders being off screen.

    • #19
    • March 2, 2017 at 11:38 pm
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  20. Profile photo of Tsarmeister Member

    John, you talk too much. Take a breath and let the talent work. I won’t listen much longer if you continue to step on Rob and Jonah’s comments. You are not as interesting as you seem to think.

    I can, and do, listen to 100% Lileks podcasts, but he is brilliant facilitating Peter and Rob. Try that.

    • #20
    • March 3, 2017 at 9:00 am
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  21. Profile photo of Nick Baldock Member

    When Jonah referred to ‘trial and error’, was he not advocating a progressive view of morality, one in which society tries out new ideas to see if they work? On which basis, anything goes until it can be demonstrated not to work.

    I don’t know how interesting John Podhoretz finds himself, but I find him very interesting (albeit turning into Eeyore on the Commentary podcast). I am interested who he thinks ought to have won the Supporting Actress Oscar for 1992, assuming the Marisa Tomei conspiracy. Judy Davis, Joan Plowright, Vanessa Redgrave or Miranda Richardson?

    • #21
    • March 4, 2017 at 2:05 pm
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  22. Profile photo of ctlaw Thatcher

    @johnpodhoretz,

    I was intrigued by your comment on a lack of neocons at CPAC.

    The term “neocon” seems mostly used as a pejorative by people who do not regard themselves as neocons. It seems odd, particularly nowadays, to see someone apply it to to apparently include himself.

    Please correct my errors but it started out as a hard left pejorative for those who dissented from the pro-Soviet line.

    It then became a pejorative used by the “paleocons” against some of those former leftists who had come over to the conservative side on at least some issues. Sometimes there was an anti-Semitic tinge.

    In the last fifteen or so years, it seems to have snowballed into an almost substantively meaningless term used by the anti-Semitic left (i.e., the entire left) and the anti-Semitic right (some of the “alt.-right”) to mean “damn Jews”.

    How do you define “neocon”?

    • #22
    • March 5, 2017 at 8:24 am
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