Twitter is brewing with wildly unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud as election officials in battleground states continue to count ballots. For today’s myth busters edition of the podcast, David and Sarah discuss the nitty gritty details surrounding ballot-counting processes and whether the conspiratorial claims surrounding voter fraud allegations have any merit. “If voter fraud is a religion for you,” Sarah warns, “go find yourself another pod today.” They wrap things up with a conversation about exit polls and some Supreme Court punditry.

Show Notes:

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  1. Bruce W Banerdt Member

    To quote Tucker Carlson: “David French is a buffoon, one of the least impressive people I’ve ever met. Only in nonprofit conservatism could he have a paying job.”

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    • November 5, 2020, at 3:18 PM PST
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  2. Bruce W Banerdt Member

    Bruce W Banerdt (View Comment):

    To quote Tucker Carlson: “David French is a buffoon, one of the least impressive people I’ve ever met. Only in nonprofit conservatism could he have a paying job.”

    Who are you going to believe? Me? Or your own lying eyes!

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    • November 5, 2020, at 4:23 PM PST
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  3. DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone Coolidge

    170,000 ballots show up in Milwaukee at 3:00 am, and all of them were for Biden.

    Sure, you go with that.

    The sneering condescension from Mr. Holier-than-Thou is sickening.

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    • November 5, 2020, at 5:27 PM PST
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  4. Joe D. Lincoln

    So, were the ‘vote dumps’ 100% for Biden or not? After you mocked the Fox person who said this, you did not actually refute what they said. At any rate, even with orange man bad complaining about mail in voting before hand, that percentage seems rather high to be believable. Maybe you sort of refuted it, but neither of you explicitly refuted this statement (maybe laughing at it is refuting it).

    Does it matter to you that Democrat’s running for the House and Senate seem to have done much worse than Biden? Do we really think it makes sense that either so many people split their vote like that? I guess this block is supposedly a bunch of never Trumper Republicans who wanted to keep the Senate but hate Trump, and ‘conservate’ Democrats who wanted Democrats in the White House but were scared of packing the courts and the Green New Deal – is that your theory?

    Regardless of whether or not you believe there is enough fraud to make a difference here, do you at least believe we need a more hardened system of voting to prevent fraud. In PA, you don’t need an ID to vote – I grew up there, and I used to try to get people to go vote as me while I would vote as them. In Florida, where we are supposedly awesome at voting now – I just get my mail in ballot sent to me. I said I wanted to do it once, and it doesn’t seem like I have to do it every time (although maybe I’m wrong here, I just don’t remember). It doesn’t seem like this system would be too hard to ‘hack’ either.

    Does it matter to you that they are boarding up windows to prevent observation and kicking out Republican monitors? If you believe these are crazy Trumper conspiracy theories, you should have refuted them – but we seem to have pictures of them putting cardboard over the windows in these counting centers.

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    • November 6, 2020, at 11:07 AM PST
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  5. DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone Coolidge

    All that matters to these people is that they remain in good standing among the beltway class. They have never stepped outside their bubbles long enough to understand the working class, and they don’t care.

     

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    • November 6, 2020, at 11:16 AM PST
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  6. Bruce W Banerdt Member

    I’m not sure who Joe D is replying to, but if it’s me, he has it backwards. David French is who made me stay away from The National Review. At one time the NR was a hallmark publication. In the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s, it put out some of the best free thought in the world. It’s not like that anymore. FWIW, I am horrified by what we’re seeing across the country, the mail in vote seems to have done exactly what countless people have warned of. The integrity of the American electoral process either continues with this election or it’s over forever. This isn’t a conspiracy as the right sees it, it’s a process as the left sees it.

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    • November 6, 2020, at 4:38 PM PST
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  7. Bruce W Banerdt Member

    Bruce W Banerdt (View Comment):

    And @josephdornisch, that was not a mock of Tucker. It was an exclamation point. My sincere apologies for not being clear. We’re on the same side here, getting used to this format. I won’t address the rest of the post except to say bravo.

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    • November 6, 2020, at 4:46 PM PST
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  8. DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone Coolidge

    Bruce W Banerdt (View Comment):
    David French is who made me stay away from The National Review.

    I’m glad they kicked him to the curb.

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    • November 6, 2020, at 5:04 PM PST
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  9. Joe D. Lincoln

    Bruce W Banerdt (View Comment):

    I’m not sure who Joe D is replying to, but if it’s me, he has it backwards. David French is who made me stay away from The National Review. At one time the NR was a hallmark publication. In the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s, it put out some of the best free thought in the world. It’s not like that anymore. FWIW, I am horrified by what we’re seeing across the country, the mail in vote seems to have done exactly what countless people have warned of. The integrity of the American electoral process either continues with this election or it’s over forever. This isn’t a conspiracy as the right sees it, it’s a process as the left sees it.

    I’m not sure why you thought I was responding to you, but I was trying to comment to the hosts of the podcasts. I basically think they mocked Maria Bartiromo without actually even refuting her – let alone pointing to evidence that says she was wrong. … Because yes we get that the mail in ballots will favor Biden, but 100% of them in some of these cases does not seem believable.

    They also seemed to ignore all these situations where they kicked out the Republican Poll Monitors, and they don’t care. Much like they don’t care about all the people getting silenced or demonitized on twitter, facebook etc. Even though, it’s not just happening to conspiracy theorist right ringers and also seems to be happening to Chinese dissidents.

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    • November 6, 2020, at 9:37 PM PST
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  10. DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone Coolidge

    Joe D. (View Comment):
    Much like they don’t care about all the people getting silenced or demonitized on twitter, facebook etc. Even though, it’s not just happening to conspiracy theorist right ringers and also seems to be happening to Chinese dissidents.

    When Alex Jones was banned from Twitter/YouTube/Facebook, et al, we were lectured — by the conservative commentariat — that this was okay because he was a kook. Several of us said that that it didn’t matter that he was a kook. This wwas only the beginning and they’d start coming for mainstream conservatives next.

    And incrementally, they started censoring one conservative voice after another on the shakiest of grounds. Frog in the kettle.

    The conservative punditocracy didn’t give a s***. After all, they weren’t the ones being blocked. Only those deplorable ones.

    These guys won’t complain a bit until suddenly they find themselves being cut off from the digital public square. But given their track record of cozying up to censors, who will defend them? Not I. I will sit back and laugh.

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    • November 7, 2020, at 5:57 AM PST
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