Steve Hayes, now officially Jonah’s business partner, returns from a yearlong residence in Spain to discuss what he’s been up to, what he and Jonah are working on, and why, exactly, the Democratic presidential candidates have (mostly) gone so far to the left.


As we adapt to a world where Donald Trump is the Republican nominee for President, we figured we ought book some very grounded guests for this week’s show. So listen in as we welcome Texas Governor Greg Abbott. The Governor has a new book, Broken But Unbowed: The Fight to Fix a Broken AmericaWe also discuss bathrooms and his good friend Ted Cruz’s plans for the future. Then, The Weekly Standard’s Stephen Hayes stops by to proclaim that he will never, ever, endorse Donald Trump, and goes deep into his reasoning. Sigh, it’s going to be a long summer.

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