We have reached an era in society and our culture where many people are graduating from college with degrees that will not get them hired in their fields of study. Meanwhile, they they’re often at least $100,000 in debt because they’ve been told they “have” to go to college. In the meantime, there are thousands and thousands of skilled jobs available to people but nobody is prepared for those jobs. Because they’ve been conditioned to think those jobs are not worthy of taking.

So Jay and Neal are talking to Mike Rowe about his passion for people to learn skilled trades and to make just as good a living (or better) than the people with liberal arts degrees. They also discussed the mikeroweWORKS Foundation and Mike’s podcast, “The Way I Heard It.”