Mike Pompeo began the Trump era as an opponent of the future 45th president. But by the time Donald Trump exited the White House in January 2021, the former CIA director and former Secretary of State had emerged as perhaps his most trusted Cabinet official.

In this episode, Pompeo talks Afghanistan; discusses his experience in the Trump administration, sounds off on the former president’s impact on the Republican Party; and addresses the question of how Trump’s plans for a 2024 bid might impact his own presidential ambitions.

Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo joins the podcast to give us insight into what it was like serving the country as secretary of state, including his tough stance on China and how the landmark breakthroughs in the Middle East happened. He also shares his perspective on freedom in the U.S. and around the world, addresses the concerns that our rights are being eroded, and grades the Biden administration on their foreign policy.


Ayaan speaks with Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo about American values. They discuss extremist ideologies, competing world powers, the future of the Iran nuclear deal, and our relationship with China. They also discuss the Report of the Commission on Unalienable Rights.

Secretary Mike Pompeo served as the 70th Secretary of State of the United States, the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, and was elected to four terms in Congress representing Kansas’ 4th District.