Everybody tells tales of what healthcare would be like if Obamacare were repealed. But hardly anybody tells the stories about people who suffered because of Obamacare. Mary Katherine Ham of The Federalist and CNN is one and it came during a devastating part of her life. She talks to Jay and Neal about her story and also about what Republicans can, cannot, or won’t do going forward with attempting to either repeal or replace Obamacare.