The King of Stuff welcomes Kmele Foster, host of The Fifth Column podcast and Lead Producer of Freethink Media. Jon and Kmele discuss Kanye’s chances in 2020, Jo Jorgenson’s tweet heard ’round the libertarian world, and race in the current moment.

Subscribe to our brand-new Spotify playlist featuring picks from Jon and his guest. Kmele’s song of the week is “Symphony” by Marvin Gaye and Jon’s is “The Gut” by Homeboy Sandman and Edan.