My guest this week is Jeremy Carl, currently a senior fellow at the Claremont Institute, and formerly a research fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford, where he directed the Shultz-Stephenson Task Force on Energy Policy. His political writing and commentary has been featured in the New York TimesWall Street JournalTime MagazineNational Review, Politico, the Economist, and many other leading newspapers and magazines.

Of special interest to me, however, is Jeremy’s personal story in recent months. Last year Jeremy and his wife, who is an emergency room physician, decided to quit their jobs and travel around the world for an indefinite period with their five (yes, I said 5!) children, with no fixed itinerary. After eight months on the road in North America, Europe and Africa, Jeremy and his family entourage interrupted their epic and returned to the U.S. recently because of the COVID-19 lockdown. Although he hopes to resume his epic journey when the all-clear is eventually sounded (I’m hoping he’ll call the book Around the World in 80 Months), I wanted to catch up with him to get a mid-term report, and elicit his insights and observations from the road on everything from populism, nationalism, foreign attitudes toward President Trump, and the topsy-turvy world of energy just now.

Steve Hayward talks with two proud Yale bulldog alumni—James Kirchick of the Brookings Institution and Jeremy Carl of the Hoover Institution, about the mess in higher education and the mess at our border. It’s a coin flip between which is the bigger mess today—immigration or college campus madness, and maybe there is a connecting thread. But stick around, we have a side dish of energy policy included, because this is a high energy podcast!

This edition of the Power Line Show features Steve Hayward in conversation with Jeremy Carl of the Hoover Institution. Jeremy helps direct the Shultz-Stephenson Task Force on Energy Policy at Hoover, and write frequently on American politics for National Review Online and other publications. Jeremy explains his interest in the environment, as well as why and how we all missed the Trump wake up call.