Jon Gabriel (@ExJon) and Stephen Miller (@RedSteeze) welcome BuzzFeed‘s Editor-in-Chief, Ben Smith (@BuzzFeedBen). They chat about Trump tweets, fake news, and how Facebook and Twitter are dealing with both. Then, Stephen and Jon talk about Gold Star parents and Gen. Kelly’s mic drop on the subject.

The intro/outro song is “#53” by Weaves. Jon’s song of the week is “Älgen” by Amason and Stephen’s is “Paola” by Shout Out Louds. To listen to all the music featured on The Conservatarians, subscribe to our Spotify playlist.