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What Comes After “Nazi?”

 

While sitting in my favorite bagel place today, I watched a ramshackle group of middle-aged men and women — a real low-testosterone, NPR-looking crowd — walk by carrying signs that had negative things to say about Nazis, hate, and President Trump.

It saddens me a little that there are people stupid enough to believe that the anti-Nazi message actually has to be delivered, given that essentially everyone already agrees that Nazis were evil. But then, this same group was probably waving Bernie signs a few months ago, so I suppose it’s progress that they’re rejecting at least one form of socialism (the most murderous idea in human history), given that they were embracing it so recently.

The Trump-is-a-Nazi thing isn’t likely to be as long-lived as the Trump-is-a-Russian-stooge thing was, or the Trump-hates-women thing, or the Trump-hates-Mexicans thing. It’s just too hard a sell: his son-in-law is a Jew, after all.

And then what? Godwin’s law isn’t completely without merit: once you’ve accused a man of being a Nazi sympathizer, where do you go from there? If you’re a fevered anti-Trumper bent on finding something with which to smear the man, how do you top “Nazi?”

Stay tuned. This should be good.

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    A man, the product of incest, who regularly dines on human flesh, who has sex with the dead, whose energy and youth are the result of stem cell injections derived from human fetuses, who turns into a murderous wolf-man with every full moon, who worships Satan and who also regularly practices necromancy.

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    • August 20, 2017 at 9:57 am
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    Doug Kimball (View Comment):
    A man, the product of incest, who regularly dines on human flesh, who has sex with the dead, whose energy and youth are the result of stem cell injections derived from human fetuses, who turns into a murderous wolf-man with every full moon, who worships Satan and who also regularly practices necromancy.

    They can’t go there. To many on the left indulge in this stuff. It would alienate there base. :)

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    • August 20, 2017 at 10:06 am
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    Henry Racette: how do you top “Nazi?”

    The 6th Floor of a book depository…. sad to say.

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    • August 20, 2017 at 10:11 am
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    Doug Kimball (View Comment):
    A man, the product of incest, who regularly dines on human flesh, who has sex with the dead, whose energy and youth are the result of stem cell injections derived from human fetuses, who turns into a murderous wolf-man with every full moon, who worships Satan and who also regularly practices necromancy.

    You sound like a hater here, Doug. Like, are you inferring here that eating human flesh a bad thing? I’ll bet you have no problem with people who eat murdered pig flesh, or eat cheese made from the milk of raped cows and goats.

    No, I am not talking about consensual sex with cows and goats—and if you don’t know the difference between rape and non-rape, you’re disgusting.

    Love is love. So, yeah, tt is totally possible to have a completely healthy relationship with a deceased person, and it wouldn’t even be considered a symptom of mental illness if it weren’t for the social stigma and history of oppression directed at innocent necrophiles.

    And what’s with all the hate directed at earth-based spirituality? Not to mention alternative medicine and/or choice?

    I think I’ll look up your address, and throw a urine-filled balloon at your wife.

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    • August 20, 2017 at 10:15 am
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    Henry Racette Post author

    Anuschka (View Comment):

    Henry Racette: how do you top “Nazi?”

    The 6th Floor of a book depository.

    That’s probably it, really. Accuse him of political assassination.

    Doug Kimball (View Comment):
    stem cell injections derived from human fetuses

    Whoops. That’s obviously not going to be very persuasive to the left.

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    • August 20, 2017 at 10:15 am
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    Henry Racette Post author

    Kate Braestrup (View Comment):
    You sound like a hater here, Doug.

    Kate totally gets it. I want her on my team.

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    • August 20, 2017 at 10:16 am
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    SchneiderDoug Kimball (View Comment):
    A man, the product of incest, who regularly dines on human flesh, who has sex with the dead, whose energy and youth are the result of stem cell injections derived from human fetuses, who turns into a murderous wolf-man with every full moon, who worships Satan and who also regularly practices necromancy.

    Sounds like a new Game of Thrones character…

    How did you get an advance copy?!?

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    • August 20, 2017 at 10:21 am
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    Kate Braestrup (View Comment):

    Doug Kimball (View Comment):
    A man, the product of incest, who regularly dines on human flesh, who has sex with the dead, whose energy and youth are the result of stem cell injections derived from human fetuses, who turns into a murderous wolf-man with every full moon, who worships Satan and who also regularly practices necromancy.

    You sound like a hater here, Doug. Like, are you inferring here that eating human flesh a bad thing? I’ll bet you have no problem with people who eat murdered pig flesh, or eat cheese made from the milk of raped cows and goats.

    No, I am not talking about consensual sex with cows and goats—and if you don’t know the difference between rape and non-rape, you’re disgusting.

    Love is love. So, yeah, tt is totally possible to have a completely healthy relationship with a deceased person, and it wouldn’t even be considered a symptom of mental illness if it weren’t for the social stigma and history of oppression directed at innocent necrophiles.

    And what’s with all the hate directed at earth-based spirituality? Not to mention alternative medicine and/or choice?

    I think I’ll look up your address, and throw a urine-filled balloon at your wife.

    Both you and the original author are great writers. This post should go to the Main Feed.

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    • August 20, 2017 at 10:53 am
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    Yup, Fonzi is up on his skis, ready to jump.

    You’re right, Henry, it will be amusing in a macabre sense watching the Dems flame out.

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    • August 20, 2017 at 11:19 am
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    Nope. None of it will disappear, Hank. I imagine the Lefties are putting them all together like a menu, maybe alphabetical called, “Pick Your Hate Trump Entree” so they can pull out any one of them on a given day. Oh, he’s being hateful: let’s call him a Nazi; oh, he acted charming to a woman, must be a woman hater; oh, he’s wearing a white shirt, he must love the KKK. Can’t you see it?

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    • August 20, 2017 at 11:28 am
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    What comes after Nazi? Procrastinator!

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    • August 20, 2017 at 11:48 am
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    I suppose you go for specificity, and just call them Hitler.

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    • August 20, 2017 at 11:51 am
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    Henry Racette Post author

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):
    Nope. None of it will disappear, Hank. I imagine the Lefties are putting them all together like a menu, maybe alphabetical called, “Pick Your Hate Trump Entree” so they can pull out any one of them on a given day. Oh, he’s being hateful: let’s call him a Nazi; oh, he acted charming to a woman, must be a woman hater; oh, he’s wearing a white shirt, he must love the KKK. Can’t you see it?

    Oh, I’m sure you’re right.

    But, you know, after you’ve done Russian Manchurian candidate and Hitler clone, everything else seems a little anticlimactic.

    Space alien, maybe. That might work.

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    • August 20, 2017 at 11:56 am
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    I think they’ll be able to keep the “Trump-is-a-Nazi” theme going longer than the other themes they have tried because they can twist almost anything into support for that theme, as @susanquinn notes. The Jewish son-in-law can be dismissed because they choose to ignore facts that aren’t convenient to their narrative.

    In the meantime, they are rendering the “[Person] is a Nazi” meaningless. For many of us, it is immaterial if we are called “racist” because the accusers have demonstrated that they will call me a “racist” no matter what I do. If anything can get me called a Nazi, then being called a Nazi means nothing.

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    • August 20, 2017 at 12:01 pm
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    Henry Racette:While sitting in my favorite bagel place today, I watched a ramshackle group of middle-aged men and women — a real low-testosterone, NPR-looking crowd — walk past carrying signs that had negative things to say about Nazis, hate, and President Trump.

    They probably smelled bad too and I bet the women had hairy legs.

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    • August 20, 2017 at 12:12 pm
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    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):
    I think they’ll be able to keep the “Trump-is-a-Nazi” theme going longer than the other themes they have tried because they can twist almost anything into support for that theme, as @susanquinn notes. The Jewish son-in-law can be dismissed because they choose to ignore facts that aren’t convenient to their narrative.

    In the meantime, they are rendering the “[Person] is a Nazi” meaningless. For many of us, it is immaterial if we are called “racist” because the accusers have demonstrated that they will call me a “racist” no matter what I do. If anything can get me called a Nazi, then being called a Nazi means nothing.

    I’ve been depressing myself by noodling through pictures from the various protests, and there is something I want to say to these people (not that it would do any good).

    You can’t SMASH RACISM. You can’t CRUSH RACISM. You can’t DISMANTLE RACISM. You certainly can’t F*** RACISM.

    You can only smash, crush, dismantle (etc.) people. 

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    • August 20, 2017 at 12:22 pm
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    Doug Kimball (View Comment):
    A man, the product of incest, who regularly dines on human flesh, who has sex with the dead, whose energy and youth are the result of stem cell injections derived from human fetuses, who turns into a murderous wolf-man with every full moon, who worships Satan and who also regularly practices necromancy.

    You sound like a hater here, Doug. Like, are you inferring here that eating human flesh a bad thing? I’ll bet you have no problem with people who eat murdered pig flesh, or eat cheese made from the milk of raped cows and goats.

    No, I am not talking about consensual sex with cows and goats—and if you don’t know the difference between rape and non-rape, you’re disgusting.

    Love is love. So, yeah, tt is totally possible to have a completely healthy relationship with a deceased person, and it wouldn’t even be considered a symptom of mental illness if it weren’t for the social stigma and history of oppression directed at innocent necrophiles.

    And what’s with all the hate directed at earth-based spirituality? Not to mention alternative medicine and/or choice?

    I think I’ll look up your address, and throw a urine-filled balloon at your wife.

    Both you and the original author are great writers. This post should go to the Main Feed.

    Thank you. Just want to say that I used the word “inferring” on purpose.

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    • August 20, 2017 at 12:23 pm
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    What could be worse than a Nazi? Well, no one’s called him a Kennedy yet.

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    • August 20, 2017 at 12:34 pm
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    Henry Racette: (the most murderous idea in human history), given that they were embracing it so recently.

    Sadly, as murderous as the nazis were, they were far outdone by regular socialists of the communist sort.

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    • August 20, 2017 at 6:03 pm
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    Kate Braestrup (View Comment):
    You can’t SMASH RACISM. You can’t CRUSH RACISM. You can’t DISMANTLE RACISM. You certainly can’t F*** RACISM.

    You can only smash, crush, dismantle (etc.) people. 

    Central to leftist philosophy is the perfectibility of man. If man is inherently good, then racism has to be something outside of a healthy human soul that can somehow infect it. Once enough power is obtained through some version of the dictatorship of the proletariat, then they can fix things.

    Keep in mind this is the same crowd that believes that Obamacare had so many difficulties either because of the fault of Republicans or that Obama didn’t go far enough. The entirety of leftist thought is the notion that people like them can fix things.

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    • August 20, 2017 at 6:08 pm
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Kate Braestrup (View Comment):
    You can’t SMASH RACISM. You can’t CRUSH RACISM. You can’t DISMANTLE RACISM. You certainly can’t F*** RACISM.

    You can only smash, crush, dismantle (etc.) people.

    Central to leftist philosophy is the perfectibility of man. If man is inherently good, then racism has to be something outside of a healthy human soul that can somehow infect it. Once enough power is obtained through some version of the dictatorship of the proletariat, then they can fix things.

    Keep in mind this is the same crowd that believes that Obamacare had so many difficulties either because of the fault of Republicans or that Obama didn’t go far enough. The entirety of leftist thought is the notion that people like them can fix things.

    Yep, that’s why they had to kill so many of us unfixable’s throughout the years. They are warming up for another round.

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    • August 20, 2017 at 6:13 pm
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Henry Racette: (the most murderous idea in human history), given that they were embracing it so recently.

    Sadly, as murderous as the nazis were, they were far outdone by regular socialists of the communist sort.

    Yes. And socialism/communism/collectivism was the murderous idea to which I was referring.

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    Central to leftist philosophy is the perfectibility of man.

    And the irony of that is that the same people who believe in the perfectibility of man deny that there is any absolute definition of good and evil. Think about that: with no standard by which to measure “perfected” man, their quest becomes a license for endless manipulation and control in service of an inherently unachievable goal — a formula, ultimately, for totalitarianism.

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    “…once you’ve accused a man of being a Nazi sympathizer, where do you go from there? If you’re a fevered anti-Trumper bent on finding something with which to smear the man, how do you top “Nazi?””

    In America, Henry? Why, that’s easy – call him a racist.

    You clearly do not know where the battle lines are drawn in 21st Century America. Few people understand what “Nazi” is or means, except for being a movie bad guy, and even there the image is fading – Did you notice the total absence of Nazis in the recent movie “Dunkirk”? (Who were those cute English guys fighting, and why?)

    But a Racist!, that is someone our new generation thinks it knows very well. With good reason: The movies are full of racists, as are many television shows. Colleges which have few or no classes on WW II have mandatory classes in white racism, black studies and colonialism (racist!). Businesses work to identify and expunge this evil and churches are united against it in ways that anti-Nazi education hasn’t contemplated since 1945.

    No evil is greater than racism and no accusation carries more explosive weight. Rather than getting weaker with use – and over use – the charge of Racist! is feared more today than ever. (White racist, that is. Wes Bellamy, the Deputy Mayor of Charlottesville, VA can be as racist as he likes.)

    And why shouldn’t it be? It’s destructive power has been augmented by the twin 40-year-long government policies of Affirmative Action and massive Third World immigration, policies that conservatives have been singularly impotent at slowing, let alone ending.

    One political party in the US is always accusing the other of being racist and that other is always apologizing and explaining, like a person with a guilty conscience. The other party, the Republican, lives in terror of being accused of racism. Its leaders cower and fawn at those who indict it for racism and they betray their own principles and sell out their own base of voters to placate the shrieking mob with the racism pitchforks.

    “Nazi,” Henry? That’s nothing. “Racist” is where it’s at in 2017.

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    Freesmith (View Comment):
    “Nazi,” Henry? That’s nothing. “Racist” is where it’s at in 2017.

    That was true fifteen years ago. But I think “racist” has been worn out — and that everyone, other than college professors, knows it.

    In the early days of the last administration, my friends and I on social media began using the “racist” label as a joke, hurling it at each other when someone made a thoughtful comment and it was a wildly inappropriate response. The goal was to wear out the word. It felt a little edgy, back when we started, but now it seems perfectly natural to use it as a joke.

    I think “racist” jumped the shark years ago. I think “Nazi” will soon. And, anyway, that label has already been thrown at Trump, and I don’t think it stuck.

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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Freesmith (View Comment):
    “Nazi,” Henry? That’s nothing. “Racist” is where it’s at in 2017.

    That was true fifteen years ago. But I think “racist” has been worn out — and that everyone, other than college professors, knows it.

    Tell Charles Murray, Heather MacDonald and Bart Weinstein.

    In the early days of the last administration, my friends and I on social media began using the “racist” label as a joke, hurling it at each other when someone made a thoughtful comment and it was a wildly inappropriate response. The goal was to wear out the word. It felt a little edgy, back when we started, but now it seems perfectly natural to use it as a joke.

    Among your friends – of course. 

    I think “racist” jumped the shark years ago. I think “Nazi” will soon. And, anyway, that label has already been thrown at Trump, and I don’t think it stuck.

    Maybe, because Trump doesn’t cower and fawn. But I can’t help remembering all those folks who, in the summer of 2012, claimed that despite the millions spent by the Democrats to make Mitt Romney look like an out-of-touch plutocrat, the man who fired you, a dog-hater and a person who simply didn’t care or relate to ordinary Americans, despite all those negative ads, Romney, his backers said, was still dead-even in the polls.

    Unfortunately, he had already been mortally wounded:

    “Cares About People Like Me – Obama, 81%, Romney 19%”

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    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    And the irony of that is that the same people who believe in the perfectibility of man deny that there is any absolute definition of good and evil. Think about that: with no standard by which to measure “perfected” man, their quest becomes a license for endless manipulation and control in service of an inherently unachievable goal — a formula, ultimately, for totalitarianism.

    How do you believe in perfectibility but not good or evil. Seriously, you can’t through away beliefs in objectivity and then construct an entire philosophy based on the pursuit of certain things for the simple fact that those certain things need to have meaning.

    For example, you can’t be against racism is racism can just mean whatever you mean it to be.

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    • August 20, 2017 at 7:36 pm
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    Freesmith (View Comment):
    Unfortunately, he had already been mortally wounded

    It’s a little premature to say “mortally.” But I think it was pretty obvious, even before he was elected, that, if he didn’t learn to rein in his mouth, he’d eventually blow himself up.

    On the other hand, if he manages to actually do good things — as he’s been doing — then perhaps he’ll survive his intemperate tongue. That would be wonderful, and it’s still a possibility.

    As for the “racist” moniker: I don’t think normal people believe the accusations anymore, and certainly not as they used to. We all know the race card is overplayed. But it’s a useful rallying cry for mobs, and lots of people remain afraid of mobs — often sensibly.

    I think the mobs will riot with or without “racism” as their standard.

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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    And the irony of that is that the same people who believe in the perfectibility of man deny that there is any absolute definition of good and evil. Think about that: with no standard by which to measure “perfected” man, their quest becomes a license for endless manipulation and control in service of an inherently unachievable goal — a formula, ultimately, for totalitarianism.

    How do you believe in perfectibility but not good or evil. Seriously, you can’t through away beliefs in objectivity and then construct an entire philosophy based on the pursuit of certain things for the simple fact that those certain things need to have meaning.

    For example, you can’t be against racism is racism can just mean whatever you mean it to be.

    Right?

    But I think the contradictions are irrelevant: controllers want to control, radicals want to break things, mobs want to riot. Causes are fungible. It’s the action they want.

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    If you’re a fevered anti-Trumper bent on finding something with which to smear the man, how do you top “Nazi?”

    I was going to say you could top it by calling him Satan, but I’m not sure the people you’re talking about would consider that all that bad. At least not as bad as Nazi or racist.

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    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    And the irony of that is that the same people who believe in the perfectibility of man deny that there is any absolute definition of good and evil. Think about that: with no standard by which to measure “perfected” man, their quest becomes a license for endless manipulation and control in service of an inherently unachievable goal — a formula, ultimately, for totalitarianism.

    Henry, Henry, Henry. That’s a feature, not a bug.

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