The Obama Generation: 6 in 10 Want More Government

 

A new poll reveals that 6 in 10 young people want more government in their lives. Throughout his presidency, Barack Obama has made a point of pandering to youth. Looks like it’s working.

Obamacare, record numbers on food stamps, unprecedented student loan subsidies, the unalienable right to free birth control pills–young people like the handouts and they want more.

November 6th, 2012 was America’s declaration of dependence. Now you can order takeout on your Obamaphone, and the government commissary will deliver the roasted head of a genuine, organic, corn-fed American taxpayer on a silver platter, oozing with BBQ sauce. And you can pay for the meal with your EBT card.

My grandmother recently told me about how her father refused to take a job with the WPA during the Great Depression because it was viewed as make-work, or welfare in disguise. The view toward government has changed. In those days, government help was a last resort. Now it’s every rung on the ladder of success.

Yesterday we found out that the BET crowd has anointed Obama “Lord and Savior.” Today, I’m thinking the president’s youthful devotees may give him another divine title: Jehovah Jirah–which means, in biblical terms, something like “God, our provider.”

Look at it in the context of the recent presidential election. The results of that campaign reveal a crisis of character and culture in this country. Let’s face it, this is a coddled generation. For 6 in 10, The Life of Julia was disturbingly biographical.

It may take 20 or 30 years staring at the mirror for them to figure out the answer to the question they forgot to ask: Who’s gonna pay for all this?

What’s the solution? I think somebody needs to tell these 6 in 10 to go jump off a fiscal cliff. Maybe the fall will knock some sense into them.

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  1. Profile photo of Mark Member

    That’s consistent with the polling data showing Romney winning the over 30 vote by 50-48 and losing the election because of the under 30s who turned out in greater numbers than expected.

    Funny thing is that they’re the ones being set up for the big bill. They just don’t believe it. They still think we won’t run out of other people’s money.

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    • November 28, 2012 at 4:05 am
  2. Profile photo of RightinChicago Inactive

    When we started whining as children, my father would say, and I quote, “Gimme, gimme, gimme, I want, I want.” Adolescence has been dragged out to such a long period, that in 20 years, right after you’re no longer eligible for your parents health insurance, you’ll be eligible for Medicare. If Medicare is still around.

    This may sound monstrous, but if the “gentleman” being interviewed was on fire and I held a bucket of water, I’d pour the water out on the ground and fan the flames.

    • #2
    • November 28, 2012 at 4:08 am
  3. Profile photo of DocJay Member

    We are done in before 20-30 years. These socialists got their wish but the piper must be paid for their economically illiterate president. How to make them own the failure is another story though.

    • #3
    • November 28, 2012 at 4:19 am
  4. Profile photo of Whiskey Sam Inactive

    The self-esteem generation is the death of us all. They have no shame in living off someone else and actually see it as something to be proud of. Parasites.

    • #4
    • November 28, 2012 at 4:38 am
  5. Profile photo of Goldgeller Member
    DocJay: We are done in before 20-30 years. These socialists got their wish but the piper must be paid for their economically illiterate president. How to make them own the failure is another story though. · 10 minutes ago

    I don’t know if we are done. The past can’t always be used as a guide, but I think as these college students learn a bit more about the government… they’ll change their minds!

    Government is short hand for “collaboration of smart people with resources.” (When you are in college! And a liberal!) but as they grow older they’ll realize government is nothing so “cool.” 

    But that also shows that we have an opening. There is a lot of youthful idealism that needs to be smacked around a little. Once they learn what government actually does versus what it’s supporters claims it does they’ll be mad enough vote for a conservative candidate!

    • #5
    • November 28, 2012 at 4:42 am
  6. Profile photo of Jim Ixtian Inactive

    The following govt. survey should tell you everything you will need to know about the pitiful state of our society. Take the survey and see how much welfare you qualify for;

    http://www.benefits.gov/

    What type of benefits are you looking for?

    Career Development Assistance

    Child Care/Child Support

    Counsel/Counseling

    Disability Assistance

    Disaster Relief

    Education Training

    Energy Assistance

    Environmental Sustainability/Conservation

    Food/Nutrition

    Grants/Scholarships/Fellowships

    Healthcare

    Housing

    Insurance

    Living AssistanceLoan/Loan Repayment

    Medicaid/Medicare

    Social Security

    Tax Assistance*

    Veterans – Active Duty

    Volunteer Opportunities

    Other

    Get all you can!!!

    • #6
    • November 28, 2012 at 4:48 am
  7. Profile photo of FloppyDisk90 Member

    It seems like every third post on Ricochet is now how this group or that didn’t vote for us.

    Minorities. Immigrants. The young. Social Security recipients. Women. Urban dwellers. The poor. The working class. Most of Wall Street. Academics. Hollywood. California. New York.

    How ’bout we just assume anyone who isn’t a white male tends to vote Democrat and dispense with these dreary (sorry Nathan!!!) posts on identity politics??

    • #7
    • November 28, 2012 at 4:51 am
  8. Profile photo of DocJay Member
    Goldgeller
    DocJay: We are done in before 20-30 years. These socialists got their wish but the piper must be paid for their economically illiterate president. How to make them own the failure is another story though. · 10 minutes ago

    I don’t know if we are done. The past can’t always be used as a guide, but I think as these college students learn a bit more about the government… they’ll change their minds!

    Government is short hand for “collaboration of smart people with resources.” (When you are in college! And a liberal!) but as they grow older they’ll realize government is nothing so “cool.” 

    But that also shows that we have an opening. There is a lot of youthful idealism that needs to be smacked around a little. Once they learn what government actually does versus what it’s supporters claims it does they’ll be mad enough vote for a conservative candidate! · 9 minutes ago

    The Obama supporters must be made to own the cliff diving economy. We are not going away as a country but when we lose our reserve currency status we shall have a lower standard of living by far.

    • #8
    • November 28, 2012 at 4:56 am
  9. Profile photo of Roberto Member

    Before wringing our hands too much in despair perhaps we should consider whether this is actually a change or keeping in line with historic trends. It is unfortunate the Pew survey did not include past polls of previous generations for comparison.

    Conservatism is often a view one matures into. It does not surprise greatly that much of the youth continues to be allured by the fantastical promises of government programs. Give them time.

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    • November 28, 2012 at 4:56 am
  10. Profile photo of ConservativeWanderer Inactive
    Roberto: Before wringing our hands too much in despair perhaps we should consider whether this is actually a change or keeping in line with historic trends. It is unfortunate the Pew survey did not include past polls of previous generations for comparison. · 3 minutes ago

    JFK challenged people: “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.”

    BHO replies: “Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you.”

    I’d say there’s quite a shift there.

    • #10
    • November 28, 2012 at 5:02 am
  11. Profile photo of wmartin Inactive
    Mark: That’s consistent with the polling data showing Romney winning the over 30 vote by 50-48 and losing the election because of the under 30s who turned out in greater numbers than expected.

    Funny thing is that they’re the ones being set up for the big bill. They just don’t believe it. They still think we won’t run out of other people’s money. · 57 minutes ago

    We have to remember again that Obama won because of black and hispanic under 30s. White voters 18-29 went for Romney by 7 points (not particularly close).

    • #11
    • November 28, 2012 at 5:08 am
  12. Profile photo of wmartin Inactive
    FloppyDisk90: It seems like every third post on Ricochet is now how this group or that didn’t vote for us.

    Minorities. Immigrants. The young. Social Security recipients. Women. Urban dwellers. The poor. The working class. Most of Wall Street. Academics. Hollywood. California. New York.

    How ’bout we just assume anyone who isn’t a white male tends to vote Democrat and dispense with these dreary (sorry Nathan!!!) posts on identity politics?? · 17 minutes ago

    That’s an example of why racial diversity is such a bad thing. Nothing can wreck a community quite like it.

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    • November 28, 2012 at 5:13 am
  13. Profile photo of Mark Member
    Mark: That’s consistent with the polling data showing Romney winning the over 30 vote by 50-48 and losing the election because of the under 30s who turned out in greater numbers than expected.

    Funny thing is that they’re the ones being set up for the big bill. They just don’t believe it. They still think we won’t run out of other people’s money. · 57 minutes ago

    We have to remember again that Obama won because of black and hispanicunder 30s. White voters 18-29 went for Romney by 7 points (not particularly close). · 12 minutes ago

    Good point. Thanks for catching it.

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    • November 28, 2012 at 5:22 am
  14. Profile photo of Vance Richards Member

    I was confused when I saw news about Greece’s Austerity protests months ago. I mean if you have no money, of course you need to make cuts. Don’t these people need to understand that bankrupt governments can’t make Welfare, food stamp, social security, pension, or any other types of payments. 

    Now I see the American people are no better than the Greeks. And America tends to do things bigger and better than the rest of the world so when we go broke, it will be far worse than anything we have seen before.

    • #14
    • November 28, 2012 at 5:41 am
  15. Profile photo of Steven Jones Coolidge

    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

    – John Adams

    [ More at http://www.liberty1.org/virtue.htm ]

    I fear we may have reached the point at which our society is no longer capable of consensual government, and will require the strong hand of powerful rulers to impose the sort of control which individuals once regarded as their duty (what we once called “self-control”, or even “manners”.)

    I expect to see Leftists pine ever more for the sort of authoritarian moves we have seen from the likes of Chavez and Morsi.

    • #15
    • November 28, 2012 at 5:52 am
  16. Profile photo of RightinChicago Inactive

    Long time no see wmartin. I was honestly thinking, this very evening, that I hadn’t seen a comment from you since a few days after the election. You may have a point about Hispanics and blacks under 30 as opposed to whites, but don’t forget the Asians. And you are right about diversity. It’s a historic recipe for national suicide. Ask the Romans, Byzantines, Ottomans and Austro-Hungarians about diversity and they’ll say, “But we couldn’t turn down the cheap labor.” Welcome back, if you’ve even been gone (I’m not omniscient after all)

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    • November 28, 2012 at 6:17 am
  17. Profile photo of Rocket City Dave Inactive

    I’m on the cusp of 30 but my peers a few years younger seem like they live in a fantasyland where choices have no consequences as long as you have good intentions.

    I have people my age who live in their parent’s basement and volunteer for the Obama campaign…

    while I work in the Army and raise two small children.

    • #17
    • November 28, 2012 at 6:26 am
  18. Profile photo of Robert E. Lee Member

    Who is going to pay the debt? No one. After tax increases and the confiscation of all the gold people are hoarding (remember, the Democrats did it once, they’ll do it again), the nation will default, go bankrupt.

    • #18
    • November 28, 2012 at 6:44 am
  19. Profile photo of ConservativeWanderer Inactive
    Robert E. Lee: Who is going to pay the debt? No one. After tax increases and the confiscation of all the gold people are hoarding (remember, the Democrats did it once, they’ll do it again), the nation will default, go bankrupt. · 2 minutes ago

    Exactly.

    America is over.

    Would the last American please shut off the lights… if there are any still on.

    • #19
    • November 28, 2012 at 6:48 am
  20. Profile photo of Jim Ixtian Inactive
    Robert E. Lee: Who is going to pay the debt? No one. After tax increases and the confiscation of all the gold people are hoarding (remember, the Democrats did it once, they’ll do it again), the nation will default, go bankrupt.

    There’s far more for the Zanu-Democrats to steal than just gold. Private pensions and retirement funds cf Argentina, multi-billion dollar university endowments, charity endowments, land cf Zimbabwe, etc. I have a feeling the Zanu-Democrats are just getting started with their plans to “share the wealth”…

    The America as most of us grew up in it is dying. The only question is whether the rest of us have the will and courage to cut off the cancerous parts and start anew?

    • #20
    • November 28, 2012 at 7:10 am
  21. Profile photo of Michael Labeit Member
    wmartin
    FloppyDisk90: It seems like every third post on Ricochet is now how this group or that didn’t vote for us.

    Minorities. Immigrants. The young. Social Security recipients. Women. Urban dwellers. The poor. The working class. Most of Wall Street. Academics. Hollywood. California. New York.

    How ’bout we just assume anyone who isn’t a white male tends to vote Democrat and dispense with these dreary (sorry Nathan!!!) posts on identity politics?? · 17 minutes ago

    That’s an example of why racial diversity is such a bad thing. Nothing can wreck a community quite like it. · 2 hours ago

    I would amend this statement. This hardly proves that racial diversity is bad.

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    • November 28, 2012 at 8:17 am
  22. Profile photo of Roberto Member
    Michael Labeit
    wmartin
    FloppyDisk90: It seems like every third post on Ricochet is now how this group or that didn’t vote for us.

    Minorities. Immigrants. The young. Social Security recipients. Women. Urban dwellers. The poor. The working class. Most of Wall Street. Academics. Hollywood. California. New York.

    How ’bout we just assume anyone who isn’t a white male tends to vote Democrat and dispense with these dreary (sorry Nathan!!!) posts on identity politics?? · 17 minutes ago

    That’s an example of why racial diversity is such a bad thing. Nothing can wreck a community quite like it. · 2 hours ago

    I would amend this statement. This hardly proves that racial diversity is bad. · 

    Diversity is an abused term. We should call this what it is, even “identity politics” is too polite. This is merely dividing individual Americans into ethnic, religious, social ghettos in order to rule them.

    This is third world politics, it is no different than one group supporting the tyrant in charge because they have been convinced by him that the others shall massacre them if not “held in check by a strong hand”. The caudillo gambit, rather pitiable how so many Americans embrace this. 

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    • November 28, 2012 at 8:57 am
  23. Profile photo of BlueAnt Member

    Hey, I’m all for them getting more government, as long as they are the dopes who pay for it. No way am I going to pay higher taxes so a narcissist generation who slept through Econ 101 can enjoy a collapsing welfare state.

    That’s probably the next necessary innovation in political science: find a way to have tiered national/centralized government, so that only those suckers who want more of it are affected.

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    • November 28, 2012 at 8:58 am
  24. Profile photo of Iceman25 Inactive

    Listening to that young man in the video made me sick. I am 31 and I just cut a check for my last payment on my student loan. I owed 44K and change after graduating in December of 2005. Instead of paying the minimum on my loan, my father talked some sense into me and suggested that I pay at least double the amount every month or more if I could spare the money.

    For the past six years I drove a older used car, I rented, I paid my own health insurance, car payment, student loan, gas, food, car insurance, etc. 

    All of that and I didn’t get a good job out of college. I moved home and worked for $8.50 an hour at a local lawn care warehouse driving a forklift. After 6 months I found a better job that paid $10.50 an hour at a local furniture factory. A few months later I found a job a shoe store that paid on average around $15 an hour depending on my commissions. I did that for 3 years before I found my current job.

    I wasn’t fun, but it certainly wasn’t terrible.

    • #24
    • November 28, 2012 at 9:25 am
  25. Profile photo of wmartin Inactive
    Michael Labeit
    wmartin

    That’s an example of why racial diversity is such a bad thing. Nothing can wreck a community quite like it. · 2 hours ago

    I would amend this statement. This hardly proves that racial diversity is bad. · 42 minutes ago

    Well, as Enoch Powell said on this subject, “numbers are of the essence.” I think it is well demonstrated that huge numbers of different races/ethnicities living in close proximity to each other find it very difficult to get along. A situation like we had before the 1965 immigration reform (almost 90/10 white to black) is manageable because it grew up over a long period of time and the minority population had deep civilizational roots here. To import an absolutely enormous alien population in a relatively short period of time (and one that has not assimilated and has no apparent wish to assimilate) into a country with a generous welfare state is suicide to any nation that values civic tranquility.

    • #25
    • November 28, 2012 at 9:43 am
  26. Profile photo of wmartin Inactive
    RightinChicago: Long time no see wmartin. I was honestly thinking, this very evening, that I hadn’t seen a comment from you since a few days after the election. You may have a point about Hispanics and blacks under 30 as opposed to whites, but don’t forget the Asians. And you are right about diversity. It’s a historic recipe for national suicide. Ask the Romans, Byzantines, Ottomans and Austro-Hungarians about diversity and they’ll say, “But we couldn’t turn down the cheap labor.” Welcome back, if you’ve even been gone (I’m not omniscient after all) · 3 hours ago

    I haven’t really been gone, just been focused on only a few threads (mainly ones that concern topics similar to this one).

    The Asians are indeed a conundrum. The fact that they vote for the party of affirmative action shows just how much damage has been done to the Republican brand. One reason I supported the Romney/Ryan ticket so strongly was that I thought we really needed a ticket with a different cultural profile than Bush/Gingrich/Palin. Whether it’s fair or not, the party needs a different cultural image.

    • #26
    • November 28, 2012 at 9:50 am
  27. Profile photo of EHerring Member

    They have to pay for it while I can sit on the porch, drink coffee, and wave as they drive off to their jobs. The government can’t make me use bad bulbs for I have a lifetime supply of incandescents in the garage. The government can’t limit the water I use to flush for I can flush twice. The government can’t control my temperature with a smart thermostat because I have supplemental gas. There are two cultures living here….only one of them American.

    • #27
    • November 28, 2012 at 10:11 am
  28. Profile photo of Lavaux Inactive

    The under-30 crowd are going to do far worse than their parents and grandparents, who have stuck them with a national debt that is projected to top $19 trillion before Obama leaves office. The interest expense on that debt is projected to consume 20% of federal revenues (and that projection makes numerous rosy assumptions).

    In real terms, the under-30 crowd are screwed and rightfully so. That’s what life does to you when you can’t tell right from wrong. The political recklessness that the under-30 crowd ratified and extended for another four years is a moral issue: It’s just plain wrong. And it’s the kind of wrong whose consequences can’t be avoided.

    Lena Dunham can have her birth control pills and Obama fantasies for free, but she can’t have her forebears’ liberty and prosperity at the same time. Won’t be long before events bring that truth home to her.

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    • November 28, 2012 at 11:24 am
  29. Profile photo of Guruforhire Member

    I say let them have it

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    • #29
    • November 29, 2012 at 6:28 am