Susan Rice, Diplomat

 
Mollie Hemingway, Ed.: Yesterday, Ambassador Susan Rice went around on the talk shows to distribute an odd talking point:

U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice blanketed the TV airways Sunday to reinforce the Obama administration’s position that the deadly violence at American outposts across the Middle East last week was the result of an anti-Muslim video — delivering her message on four morning talk shows.

“What sparked the violence was a very hateful video on the Internet,” Rice said on “Fox News Sunday.” “It was a reaction to a video that had nothing to do with the United States.”

Now, even the folks running Libya aren’t so stupid as to advance this line. Heck, they’ve already rounded up some of the advance plotters for the, um, very very spontaneous attack.When the Obama administration first started spewing this line, I figured they were just trying to buy a few hours of time to get their story straight. But it’s been days now, and they keep saying it.All of a sudden I’m terrified that they actually believe this. If so, we’re in far worse shape than we may have thought. · · 45 minutes ago

It used to be the case that a diplomat was an honorable man who went abroad to lie for his country. In the Age of Obama, a diplomat is a dishonorable woman who goes on television to lie for her President.

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  1. Profile photo of Mel Foil Inactive

    I’m sure the problem is that we just haven’t apologized enough. I’m sure that will be corrected shortly. As we’ve learned from the President, if something doesn’t work the first time, you have to double-down.

    • #1
    • September 17, 2012 at 7:08 am
  2. Profile photo of David Foster Member

    If your spouse comes after you with a butcher knife because you left your socks on the floor, then there is probably some deeper problem with the relationship than careless sock distribution. If your co-worker tries to get you fired because you took the last cup of coffee and didn’t make another pot, there is most likely some problem between you & him which goes beyond inconsiderate coffee-snarfing.

    • #2
    • September 17, 2012 at 7:24 am
  3. Profile photo of Joan of Ark La Tex Member

    Saw her defending Obama relentlessly on TV. To be willing to make a complete fool of herself in front of not just America but the world; she must really be obsessed with Barry. 

    • #3
    • September 17, 2012 at 7:30 am
  4. Profile photo of The Mugwump Inactive

    There’s a flip side to this. When Muslims riot and the administration flails ineffectually, events begin to hurt Obama’s election prospects. If Muslims had any strategic sense they would be doing everything possible to see the weak horse reelected. They certainly “never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.” They are, however, consistent.

    • #4
    • September 17, 2012 at 7:31 am
  5. Profile photo of Mollie Hemingway Contributor
    david foster: If your spouse comes after you with a butcher knife because you left your socks on the floor, then there is probably some deeper problem with the relationship than careless sock distribution. If your co-worker tries to get you fired because you took the last cup of coffee and didn’t make another pot, there is most likely some problem between you & him which goes beyond inconsiderate coffee-snarfing. · 8 minutes ago

    Very, very well put.

    • #5
    • September 17, 2012 at 7:33 am
  6. Profile photo of Illiniguy Member

    As I mentioned in another post on the Member side, how long is it going to take Iran to interpret our feckless response to the attacks in Cairo and Benghazi as a green light for whatever it wants to do?

    If Obama can’t look beyond his own reelection prospects when formulating a foreign policy response, it’s high time for the opposition to make it plain what it intends to do if given the keys in January. The only thing that might stop Israel from attacking is having the confidence that Obama will not be reelected and that a new administration will project a credible threat which will force Iran to back down.

    • #6
    • September 17, 2012 at 7:49 am
  7. Profile photo of Pseudodionysius Member

    The President based his entire domestic policy on “its someone else’s fault”. Now his entire foreign policy is “its someone else’s fault”. This in an area of the world where Radical Islam stokes hatred of the Great Satan by saying:

    “Its someone else’s fault.” 

    Its like the movie The Lion King if the circle of life was a star and crescent.

    • #7
    • September 17, 2012 at 8:06 am
  8. Profile photo of donald todd Member

    It is an president with no honor who sends people out to lie for him.

    • #8
    • September 17, 2012 at 8:06 am
  9. Profile photo of Pseudodionysius Member

    Susan Rice is now conducting The Women On War: Desperate WhiteHouseLives

    • #9
    • September 17, 2012 at 8:15 am
  10. Profile photo of DocJay Member

    Now what type of person lies and dodges instead of admitting fault? Starts with an N and ends in arcissist.

    • #10
    • September 17, 2012 at 8:26 am
  11. Profile photo of GirlWithAPearl Member

    Yes it is suddenly becoming clear that we are in far more trouble than even I, a major cynic, believed.

    It’s Sodom and Gomorrica, I’m afraid. We have reared enough people to live like there’s no tomorrow to seal our fate. The mountain of lies from every direction was bound to pile up and crush us one day.

    • #11
    • September 17, 2012 at 8:35 am
  12. Profile photo of Standfast Inactive
    Joan Greathouse: Saw her defending Obama relentlessly on TV. To be willing to make a complete fool of herself in front of not just America but the world; she must really be obsessed with Barry. · 57 minutes ago

    When is someone in his administration and/or media (kind of the same thing) finally going to say what they really think on live TV in front of God and everybody? 

    Is there one honest ethical person in his adminstration or in the mainstream media?

    • #12
    • September 17, 2012 at 8:37 am
  13. Profile photo of Alcina Inactive

    I’m not particularly sensitive, but I’m not sure I quite follow the importance of your distinction between the “man” (formerly) and the “woman” (currently).

    Among other things, it appears to ignore Jeane Kirkpatrick, who held the same post Susan Rice does. 

     

    • #13
    • September 17, 2012 at 8:39 am
  14. Profile photo of Leslie Watkins Member

    So true. It seems that George W. Bush’s enemies served him well and that Barack Obama’s friends do not.

    ~Paules: There’s a flip side to this. When Muslims riot and the administration flails ineffectually, events begin to hurt Obama’s election prospects. If Muslims had any strategic sense they would be doing everything possible to see the weak horse reelected. They certainly “never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.” They are, however, consistent. · 1 hour ago
    • #14
    • September 17, 2012 at 8:41 am
  15. Profile photo of Richard Fulmer Member

    Obama’s campaign needs the riots and killings to be all about the video; it cannot afford for the incidents to be seen as being related in any way to the President’s policies. The results of the government’s investigation into the incidents will not be made public until after the election. From taxes to Fast and Furious, there are an amazing number of time bombs that will go off after November 6.

    • #15
    • September 17, 2012 at 9:00 am
  16. Profile photo of David Williamson Member
    Donald Todd: It is an president with no honor who sends people out to lie for him.

    Worse still – to die for him, given that he does not provide adequate security, out of political correctness.

    • #16
    • September 17, 2012 at 9:22 am
  17. Profile photo of Astonishing Inactive

    Obama feels instinctual sympathy with Muslim extremists. He will say he does not approve their methods, but he sympathizes with their anti-Western aspirations as is evidenced by the frequency with which he repeats verbatim the pretexts of Islamist talking points.

    Does anyone think Obama would regret the disappearance of the Jewish state?

    Thus, things teeter on the precipice. Why would Bibi wait around for Obama to finish selling out Israel?

    If Romney continues looking like a loser, Bibi will have no choice but to strike Iran now, before the US election, while there’s still some hope that Obama, out of pure self-interest, would have to make a show of supporting Israel, or failing that, would pay a price at the US polls.

    If Obama wins in November, it will be too late for Israel because Obama will then have acquired the “flexibility” not only to refuse to support Israel against Iran, but to actively and openly undermine Israel.

    In the present circumstances, an Israeli “October surprise” (attacking Iran) would not be at all surprising. The question is, “How would Obama react?” Probably by blaming Bibi, which is the politically correct way to get away with blaming Israel.

    • #17
    • September 17, 2012 at 9:34 am
  18. Profile photo of MJB Wolf Inactive

    When viewers and voters are forced to confront the option of believing the Obama spokespeeps or their own eyes and ears, this won’t bode well for the administration in power. No American likes to see our embassies and consulates assaulted and our fellow citizens killed. But given the fact it is happening across the middle east, and our government’s strongest response has been to arrest the filmmaker that they blame for the “crisis” this offends our honor, our pride and our belief in the rule of law.

    These are reactions that will be difficult to blame on Romney. Or the video. Or any other convenient Goldbergesque target they conjure.

    • #18
    • September 17, 2012 at 9:43 am
  19. Profile photo of Essgee Member

    This whole thing has been appalling. The defense of the defenseless is beyond understanding. It is but another example of the kids trying to make excuses to their parents for the squablling between them–he started it; no, she did. Worse then that, the administration parallels the maturity of the mobs. They need to all be seen and not heard and put we need to put adults in charge.

    Problelm is that too many people buy these excuses. I am embarrassed for my country.

    • #19
    • September 17, 2012 at 9:47 am
  20. Profile photo of Paul A. Rahe Contributor
    Paul A. Rahe Post author
    Pseudodionysius: Susan Rice is now conducting The Women On War: Desperate WhiteHouseLives · 10 minutes ago

    Yes, indeed.

    • #20
    • September 17, 2012 at 9:55 am
  21. Profile photo of Paul A. Rahe Contributor
    Paul A. Rahe Post author
    Alcina: I’m not particularly sensitive, but I’m not sure I quite follow the importance of your distinction between the “man” (formerly) and the “woman” (currently).

    Among other things, it appears to ignore Jeane Kirkpatrick, who held the same post Susan Rice does. 

    · 1 hour ago

    Hillary favors women over men in high posts. That is all.

    • #21
    • September 17, 2012 at 9:57 am
  22. Profile photo of Paul A. Rahe Contributor
    Paul A. Rahe Post author

    I rarely see any TV and I mostly ignore the mainstream media; So, I am curious. Are the talking heads still spinning this event as something spontaneous “sparked” by the video, as they were on Sunday morning when I had CNN inflicted on me at an airport and read Pravda-on-the-Hudson over the shoulder of the fellow next to me on the plane? Or are they following the Libyans who claim that we were warned three days before and that the attack was organized by foreigners sent in by Al Qu’aeda?

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    • September 17, 2012 at 10:04 am
  23. Profile photo of Aloha Johnny Inactive

    I was listening to NPR this morning and they were discussing the disparity between the US / Libyan version of events. Basically, they said both sides are stretching the truth. The US because we don’t want our Libyan adventure to look like a failure and the Libyans because if Al Qaeda is in Libya then we will provide more support and aid.

    http://www.npr.org/2012/09/17/161256746/protests-continue-against-anti-islam-film

    • #23
    • September 17, 2012 at 10:18 am
  24. Profile photo of Patrick in Albuquerque Inactive
    Paul A. Rahe: I rarely see any TV and I mostly ignore the mainstream media; So, I am curious. Are the talking heads still spinning this event as something spontaneous “sparked” by the video, as they were on Sunday morning when I had CNN inflicted on me at an airport and read Pravda-on-the-Hudson over the shoulder of the fellow next to me on the plane? Or are they following the Libyans who claim that we were warned three days before and that the attack was organized by foreigners sent in by Al Qu’aeda? · 27 minutes ago

    Check out this CBS video that i saw this morning. It’s getting harder for them to lie.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57513675/a-look-at-the-libya-safe-house-that-was-attacked/

    • #24
    • September 17, 2012 at 10:35 am
  25. Profile photo of lisa smillie Inactive

    I would make two small changes:

    It used to be the case that a diplomat was an honorable man who went abroad to lie for his country. In the Age of Obama, a diplomat is a dishonorable woman who goes on television to lie TO her COUNTRY.

    • #25
    • September 17, 2012 at 10:41 am
  26. Profile photo of Nick Stuart Thatcher
    Standfast

    When is someone in his administration and/or media (kind of the same thing) finally going to say what they really think on live TV in front of God and everybody? 

    Is there one honest ethical person in his adminstration or in the mainstream media? · 4 hours ago

    Standfast: The only reasonable conclusion I’ve been able to come to is that by and large they have self-deluded into actually believing what they’re saying. The consequences to the Leftist value system they have spent decades assembling would be catastrophic, so at some level they believe because they must.

    Leftism is a religion. Susan Rice is one of it’s (very) minor prophets.

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    • September 18, 2012 at 1:08 am
  27. Profile photo of Nick Stuart Thatcher

    BTW, even at this hour, the “The Video Caused It” meme is The Official Version Of Events on all the MSM that I’ve caught a glimpse of.

    Taliban attacks in Afghanistan, video caused it.

    Embassy evacuation necessary in Yemen, video caused it.

    Demonstrations in Europe, video caused it.

    Traffic backed up on the toll-road, video caused it.

    Cat had kittens, video caused it.

    • #27
    • September 18, 2012 at 1:11 am
  28. Profile photo of Al Kennedy Member

    I thought Susan Rice’s appearances on the Sunday network talk shows were an absolute disgrace. I felt the same way as Thomas Sowell who said on Peter Robinson’s Uncommon Knowledge in a different context: “I feel like a mosquito in a nudist camp. Where do I start?” She insulted the intelligence of any listener by indicating the “movie” trailer as the cause of the unrest, and then refusing to answer any questions because there is an FBI investigation in progress.

    The Arab Muslim world respects a “strong horse”, and distains the “weak horse”. President Obama’s Mideast policy is the epitome of the “weak horse”. His policy refuses to recognize the reality that Islam is more than a religion—Sharia law is a major component of it. Sharia is a blueprint for how one’s life should be led, encompassing religion, government, economics, and social interaction. For decades, the Pew surveys have indicated that an overwhelming majority of people in the Middle East want to be governed under Sharia. As you watch the scenes of the chaos in the Middle East that began September 11th, who are you going to believe: Susan Rice, or your own lying eyes?

    • #28
    • September 18, 2012 at 2:10 am