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  1. Profile photo of David Foster Member

    ’tis fun to laugh at them, and we do need all the amusement we can get these days, BUT

    …all missile programs have their launch failures. (When the USAF ballistic missile program had several successful launches in a row, the great aerodynamicist Theodore von Karman sent a note to the program’s commander, General Bernard Schriever: “Bennie, you must not be taking enough chances.”)

    Missile defense needs to be taken very seriously.

    • #1
    • April 13, 2012 at 5:15 am
  2. Profile photo of The Great Adventure! Member

    Um, Claire. You do realize that posting that second video has more, um, “arousal factor” on guys than a sexy perfume, don’t you?

    • #3
    • April 13, 2012 at 5:24 am
  3. Profile photo of Claire Berlinski, Ed. Editor
    Claire Berlinski, Ed. Post author
    david foster: Missile defense needs to be taken very seriously. · 8 minutes ago

    I wasn’t arguing that we could just sort of relax about it now or anything. 

    • #4
    • April 13, 2012 at 5:32 am
  4. Profile photo of David Foster Member

    Great poster!

    • #6
    • April 13, 2012 at 5:39 am
  5. Profile photo of Claire Berlinski, Ed. Editor
    Claire Berlinski, Ed. Post author
    The Great Adventure!: Um, Claire. You do realize that posting that second video has more, um, “arousal factor” on guys than a sexy perfume, don’t you? · 16 minutes ago

    On guys? I thought that was supposed to be for the ladies!

    • #7
    • April 13, 2012 at 5:40 am
  6. Profile photo of Valiuth Member

    Yes their failure to get their rocket up is certainly comical for us, but I doubt the battered wife that is the North Korean people will find it so funny as they will be the ones punished for their leaders further inadequacies. What I am amazed by is that the North Korean media admitted the thing failed. I expect they will quickly blame some American devilry for their rockets failure. 

    Actually what I expect is that in light of this Obama will feel the need to be more conciliatory, and confident on the lack of need for missile defense. 

    • #8
    • April 13, 2012 at 6:00 am
  7. Profile photo of Pilli Member

    Lest we laugh too much, don’t forget what 4 guys in an outboard motorboat can do to a missile frigate.

    usscole.jpg

    • #9
    • April 13, 2012 at 6:16 am
  8. Profile photo of John Russell Inactive

    Stage separation is the hard part. That’s why Clinton overrode his State Department so the Loral Corp. could clue in the Chinese about its finer points – ostensibly so Loral could launch comms satellites from China – because, hey! If we’re going to downsize our own ICBM inventory somebody’s got to take up the slack.

    • #10
    • April 13, 2012 at 6:44 am
  9. Profile photo of PJ Member
    PJ

    Of course, there’s always the possibility that we (or the Japanese) shot it down, but it’s in nobody’s interest to acknowledge it publicly.

    • #11
    • April 13, 2012 at 7:11 am
  10. Profile photo of D.B. Little Inactive

    That’s all you women do is mock our missile failures isn’t it?

    Oh, no Kim, it’s not your fault. You’re just stressed from work, honey…” then go brunch with your girlfriends and dish.

    Actually we have about as many duds as successes in our own rocket technology and the more complicated the system, the more likely it is to fail. Our cruise missiles are on target killers but they will launch three per target just in case.

    So, no reason to bad luck our stuff mocking their pathetic guffaw inducing attempts at world domination.

    I know its hard, but we should be better than these limp wristed pantywaists and let them have their fun.

    • #12
    • April 13, 2012 at 7:32 am
  11. Profile photo of Tommy De Seno Contributor

    I’m sure there is a North Koren rocket scientist who took the time to kiss his family goodbye this morning upon leaving for work.

    Can you imagine how nervouse that guy is when he punches in this morning?

    “Hey Fred – Kim Jong Un wants to see you in his office. No- no- don’t bother putting your lunch in the fridge…”

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    • April 13, 2012 at 8:12 am
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    Anonymous

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    Sure, Dear Leader…

    • #14
    • April 13, 2012 at 8:28 am
  13. Profile photo of thelonious Member
    Tommy De Seno: I’m sure there is a North Koren rocket scientist who took the time to kiss his family goodbye this morning upon leaving for work.

    Can you imagine how nervouse that guy is when he punches in this morning?

    “Hey Fred – Kim Jong Un wants to see you in his office. No- no- don’t bother putting your lunch in the fridge…” · 7 minutes ago

    Two inaccuracies in your post. Since food is scarce I doubt this scientist could afford the luxury of eating lunch. I also doubt refrigeration has reached North Korea. Otherwise your scenerio is plausable.

    • #15
    • April 13, 2012 at 8:31 am
  14. Profile photo of KC Mulville Member

    If I had money to invest in stocks … I’d put a couple of bucks into Japanese nuclear and missile defense. Tokyo isn’t going to be very comfortable for the foreseeable future, and they’ll build up some kind of capacity. Maybe some other people are looking to buy some Patriot-style technology.

    • #16
    • April 13, 2012 at 8:47 am
  15. Profile photo of Mafuta Kizola Inactive
    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: … to laugh at North Korea? 

    I can’t help but join this imperial mocking of the Mighty Republic of Korea … I hope they get as much incompetent in the dictatorship and Death camp department soon enough.

    • #17
    • April 13, 2012 at 9:02 am
  16. Profile photo of dogsbody Inactive
    KC Mulville: If I had money to invest in stocks … I’d put a couple of bucks into Japanese nuclear and missile defense.

    Lockheed-Martin is the prime contractor for the AEGIS Combat System on which most of Japan’s ballistic missile defense (BMD) is based. AEGIS is also the base for our own sea-launched BMD systems, such as the one that shot down USA-193 in 2008. If you want to invest, I suggest you start there.

    Full disclosure: I used to work for Lockheed-Martin on the AEGIS program, as a very minor cog. By the way, when those missiles launch, they make a lot of noise.

    • #18
    • April 13, 2012 at 9:11 am
  17. Profile photo of Claire Berlinski, Ed. Editor
    Claire Berlinski, Ed. Post author

    Can’t help myself, I just love that funky Juche rhythm.

    • #19
    • April 13, 2012 at 9:13 am
  18. Profile photo of Noesis Noeseos Inactive
    Claire Berlinski, Ed.
    The Great Adventure!: Um, Claire. You do realize that posting that second video has more, um, “arousal factor” on guys than a sexy perfume, don’t you? · 16 minutes ago

    On guys? I thought that was supposed to be for the ladies! · 4 hours ago

    Well, the distinction is more hazy these days than ever before. (Or, at any rate, since Aristophanes, Ecclesiazusae.)

     

    • #20
    • April 13, 2012 at 9:26 am
  19. Profile photo of Noesis Noeseos Inactive

    OT: I usually log into Ricochet via Firefox, with all the ads blocked; but today, using IE, I see this silly Tammy Balwin-Buffet Rule twaddle. What gives? Can’t these leveling screeds be ostracised from the civilized discourse that putatively inhabits this site?

    • #21
    • April 13, 2012 at 9:30 am
  20. Profile photo of Andrew Inactive

    I have never understood these guys. Whether it is Kim or Saddam or the other Member’s Only guys; they all seem immune to routine debauchery. Seems like Kim could get Coors Light to sponsor and paint the rocket and then have it explode and spray Coors Light everywhere. He and Coors could make millions selling Coors Light in North Korea.

    Saddam etc. could have just left when we asked. He could have bought the Orlando Magic and gotten Chris Paul to play there. The President of Iran could easily make millions from Member’s Only.

    All they would have to do is quit killing people and threatening the world. Are sports, girls and beer just not enough anymore?

    Oh yeah, they’re crazy.

    • #22
    • April 13, 2012 at 10:07 am
  21. Profile photo of Mark Wilson Member
    dogsbody
    KC Mulville: If I had money to invest in stocks … I’d put a couple of bucks into Japanese nuclear and missile defense.

    Lockheed-Martin is the prime contractor for the AEGIS Combat System on which most of Japan’s ballistic missile defense (BMD) is based. AEGIS is also the base for our own sea-launched BMD systems, such as the one that shot down USA-193 in 2008. If you want to invest, I suggest you start there.

    Full disclosure: I used to work for Lockheed-Martin on the AEGIS program, as a very minor cog. By the way, when those missiles launch, they make a lot of noise. · 1 hour ago

    Here’s a little promo video from the Missile Defense Agency that gives a layman’s explanation of Aegis BMD.

    And here’s a the short and sweet footage of a test intercept that took place exactly 365 days ago.

    • #23
    • April 13, 2012 at 10:23 am
  22. Profile photo of Virshu Inactive

    I am so happy for Young Kim! No, I am not sarcastic. It has been widely reported that the military brass are not quite supportive the new leader. Maybe it’s the age, maybe it’s the education abroad – whatever, if I were Kim, I would not trust these uniforms, either!

    What a great opportunity to purge them all! They no doubt intentionally sabotaged the celebration of Dear Founder’s 100-year anniversary. And by the way, the bad crops this year are going to be blamed on enemies’ non-launch of weather satellite!

    Couldn’t be better! I am sure Cub Kim is smiling all the way to the firing squad!

    • #24
    • April 13, 2012 at 10:47 am
  23. Profile photo of John Russell Inactive

    Is that where the tern juke box comes from?

    • #25
    • April 13, 2012 at 10:57 am
  24. Profile photo of Mark Wilson Member
    John Russell: Stage separation is the hard part.

    If the map at the bottom of this article is accurate, I’d guess it failed before staging.

    • #26
    • April 14, 2012 at 1:14 am
  25. Profile photo of James Of England Moderator
    Pilli: Lest we laugh too much, don’t forget what 4 guys in an outboard motorboat can do to a missile frigate. · 11 hours ago

    Right, and North Korea’s economy is currently based on smuggling, often via container ships. They already have delivery vehicles for nukes, they just take a month to reach US ports. I think that I’m more likely to be killed by martial force when I’m in London, LA, San Diego, or New York than I was when I was in Baghdad, albeit only because the risk in Baghdad, assuming the security measures in place was also low.

    • #27
    • April 14, 2012 at 5:14 am
  26. Profile photo of Misthiocracy Member

    It’s not just interesting that the North Korean media admitted that the launch was a failure. It was UNPRECEDENTED that the North Korean media admitted that the launch was a failure!

    This is the same media that SERIOUSLY claimed Kim Jong Il scored a perfect 300 the first time he tried bowling, and that even bears and birds wept when he died.

    The North Korean media DOES NOT tell the truth to the North Korean people. Ever.

    This is a major change in the way they do business.

    What does it MEAN? I have no idea.

    • #28
    • April 15, 2012 at 8:28 am
  27. Profile photo of Mark Wilson Member
    Misthiocracy:

    This is the same media that SERIOUSLY claimed Kim Jong Il scored a perfect 300 the first time he tried bowling, and that even bears and birds wept when he died.

    He also shot 38-under in his first round of golf, cupping 5 holes-in-one.

    Kim Jong-Un is supposedly Western educated, so he might realize what a joke his father was from an outsider’s perspective, and lower the official state exaggeration level.

    • #29
    • April 15, 2012 at 8:44 am
  28. Profile photo of Gaby Charing Member

    I suppose I’d laugh a little more freely if I didn’t suspect that some of those held responsible for the launch failure were in the process of being tortured to death.

    • #30
    • April 15, 2012 at 11:22 am