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Ricochet Podcast #85: Taxes Are Lower, Guns Are Available

 

It’s an all contributor edition of the podcast this week as we’re joined by UCLA professor and author Tim Groseclose and podcaster to the stars Troy Senik. We cover the week’s hot issues including Bachmann’s ambition, why Mitt Romney is like a NASCAR driver, Perry’s handling of the government injection question, the stunning (although not to Professor Groseclose) winning of the Weiner seat, and Romney’s ability to go the distance. We wrap up with  a look at AttackWatch.com — is it a cheap campaign stunt or something more ominous? We podcast, you decide. 

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  1. Profile photo of Give Me Liberty Inactive

    James, BEST SIGN OFF EVER!!!

    • #1
    • September 15, 2011 at 3:10 am
  2. Profile photo of Terrell David Inactive

    Thanks for posting the title of the music from the end of the podcast.

    • #2
    • September 15, 2011 at 4:30 am
  3. Profile photo of Rob Long Founder

    It was brilliant. James, sheer genius!

    • #3
    • September 15, 2011 at 4:47 am
  4. Profile photo of Pat in Obamaland Inactive

    Our first Chicago Ricochet event and I’m out of town!&nbsp; Just my luck…

    • #4
    • September 15, 2011 at 5:04 am
  5. Profile photo of Squishy Blue RINO Inactive

    Way to lock it down James, in my imagination you slammed your skype-mic to the floor and strode manfully away from your laptop, just like Chris Rock would.

    Only not in your yellow tank top, because, well, because that would be&nbsp;weird.

    • #5
    • September 15, 2011 at 5:26 am
  6. Profile photo of Aaron Miller Member

    Perry’s position on border control makes sense. A fence is good only if you have the manpower and technology to patrol it. The purpose of a fence is to slow people down, not to stop them. In other words, we do need a fence; but if we have to focus on the fence or manpower first, we should begin with the manpower. Then again, can’t we make progress on both steps simultaneously?

    Of course, Romney mentioned another leg of sound border policy in a previous debate, and that’s punishing employers who hire illegals.

    Anyway, I agree with Peter that most voters will cut Perry some slack on issues other than the economy and breaking government power.

    • #6
    • September 15, 2011 at 5:32 am
  7. Profile photo of Aaron Miller Member

    Something all candidates should keep in mind is that realism isn’t the same as believability. It’s a hard lesson fiction writers must learn. You might write about a real experience only to discover your readers think the scenario is too far-fetched.

    So, for example, Troy says poker is “so far outside [Romney’s] area of expertise.” How does he know Romney isn’t a genuine poker player? He doesn’t. But the reality doesn’t matter. Candidates must remain aware of how voters perceive them. Some of those perceptions should be confronted, and others left alone.

    Speaking of perceptions, a liberal friend surprised me with the following today:

    I think I am going to vote for Rick Perry. I had him all wrong. Turns out he wants to keep government out of our lives, so we can all feel free to marry whom we like, control our own bodies, worship — or not — how we choose… I’d thought he was against all these things!

    Remarkable, no?

    • #7
    • September 15, 2011 at 5:54 am
  8. Profile photo of Troy Senik Editor

    A very good point, Aaron. You are, of course, correct. I have no idea whether Romney has any experience with poker (though part of my suspicion stems from the fact that that line had all the hallmarks of being developed by a staffer rather than being spontaneous — obviously not the case with Perry’s retort). Your broader point is extremely well-taken. Even if Mitt was an uncredited consultant on “Rounders”, it’s still a line that rings so false in relation to his image as to beg credulity. A very perceptive distinction.

    Aaron Miller:

    So, for example, Troy says poker is “so far outside [Romney’s] area of expertise.” How does he know Romney isn’t a genuine poker player? He doesn’t. But the reality doesn’t matter. Candidates must remain aware of how voters perceive them. Some of those perceptions should be confronted, and others left alone.

    • #8
    • September 15, 2011 at 6:02 am
  9. Profile photo of BThompson Inactive

    Peter and Troy, what are you going to do if Mitt gets the nomination? I fear we’ll have to keep you away from the razor blades. The incessant Romney bashing and excuse making for Perry got a bit tiresome over the course of an hour. We get it, you don’t think Romney is a real conservative. But you’re willing to call Perry’s dishonesty and crony capitalism (which wasn’t just on display with Gardisil during his time as governor) an “aberration”. Perry lied saying he’d only received $5000 from Merck. The fact is he received over $20,000 from them directly. But more importantly, as fundraiser and head of the RGA he milked hundreds of thousands of dollars from Merck for the RGA and then got that money from Merck indirectly when the RGA gave him millions for his campaigns. Merck also contributed tens of thousands to Perry PACs. Perry claiming he only got $5000 from Merck is rank dishonesty (as was Perry’s misquoting of Romney’s book to deflect attention from his own hamfisted rhetoric on SS) and to chalk that dishonesty and crony capitalism up as an “aberration” is either deluded or willful ignorance, gentlemen.

    • #9
    • September 15, 2011 at 7:20 am
  10. Profile photo of Charley Davis Inactive

    Haven’t listened yet, but those LA boys Foster the People sure have a catchy tune.&nbsp; It really sounds best with the bass thumping in a car.&nbsp;

    • #10
    • September 15, 2011 at 7:37 am
  11. Profile photo of Cunctator Inactive

    &nbsp;I have to admit I was extremely uncomfortable with the opening discussion of HPV.&nbsp; “It’s not contagious”?&nbsp; Of course it is – it is contagious through mucous membrame contact.&nbsp; It leads to malignancies of the head and neck (nasal cavity, throat, etc), and male and female “you-know-what” tract.&nbsp; Of course it was known that males were affected as well as females (referencing the statement “when Perry signed this into law).&nbsp;

    If people stop having you-know-what in the various ways this can be done, perhaps then HPV infection&nbsp;will then cease to be “a public health threat”.&nbsp; But, for some reason, I don’t see this happening.

    If girls get vaccinated, this will lead to a subsequent decreased need for PAP smears,&nbsp;(and repeated surgeries for squamous dysplasias) and a general reduction in various cancers with resultant decreased morbidity and mortality.&nbsp; Doesn’t seem that tough a decision for me.&nbsp; Cheers and thanks!

    • #11
    • September 15, 2011 at 8:06 am
  12. Profile photo of Pious Agnostic Member
    Erik Larsen: &nbsp;I have to admit I was extremely uncomfortable with the opening discussion of HPV.&nbsp; “It’s not contagious”?&nbsp; Of course it is – it is contagious through mucous membrame contact.&nbsp; It leads to malignancies of the head and neck (nasal cavity, throat, etc), and male and female “you-know-what” tract.&nbsp; Of course it was known that males were affected as well as females (referencing the statement “when Perry signed this into law).&nbsp;

    If people stop having you-know-what in the various ways this can be done, perhaps then HPV infection&nbsp;will then cease to be “a public health threat”.&nbsp; But, for some reason, I don’t see this happening.

    If girls get vaccinated, this will lead to a subsequent decreased need for PAP smears,&nbsp;(and repeated surgeries for squamous dysplasias) and a general reduction in various cancers with resultant decreased morbidity and mortality.&nbsp; Doesn’t seem that tough a decision for me.&nbsp; Cheers and thanks! · Sep 15 at 8:06am

    Correct on all points. It baffles me that there is any controversy concerning vaccinating children against a disease that causes misery and death in such high numbers. That it is primarily transmitted sexually is immaterial and irrelevant.

    • #12
    • September 15, 2011 at 9:58 am
  13. Profile photo of Peter Robinson Founder
    BThompson: Peter and Troy, what are you going to do if Mitt gets the nomination? I fear we’ll have to keep you away from the razor blades. · Sep 15 at 7:20am

    Edited on Sep 15 at 07:30 am

    If you have a moment, B, see my comments in the “Troy on Mitt” thread yesterday.&nbsp;

    What will I do if Romney wins the nomination?&nbsp; Support him, stoutly.&nbsp; He’s not my primary candidate–again, see the comments I put up yesterday–but I have no doubt whatsoever that he’d make a far, far better president than the incumbent.

    • #13
    • September 15, 2011 at 10:23 am
  14. Profile photo of genferei Member

    FWIW, “Genferei” is a Swiss German word for the sort of political imbroglio Geneva (“Genf” in German) and its various governments get into with some regularity. So it has a hard ‘g’, and the “ei” is pronounced “eye”.

    Perhaps it was better to leave the mystery…

    • #14
    • September 15, 2011 at 11:08 am
  15. Profile photo of Aaron Miller Member

    The most important question about the HPV issue is not whether or not HPV merited government intervention. It is whether or not Perry demonstrated disregard for constitutional process by issuing an executive order instead of acting through the legislature.

    One might argue that both Romney and Perry are scoundrels. But, between the two, Perry is the only scoundrel with the gumption to rein in government expansion and roll back spending… if only for his own glory.

    • #15
    • September 15, 2011 at 11:41 am
  16. Profile photo of Aaron Miller Member

    [duplicate post]

    • #16
    • September 15, 2011 at 11:43 am
  17. Profile photo of John Marzan Inactive

    All perry has to do to secure the nomination is to reassure the undecided republicans that he’s not an extremist and is knowledgeable on the issues.

    • #17
    • September 16, 2011 at 4:05 am
  18. Profile photo of Peter Robinson Founder
    BThompson
    Peter Robinson&nbsp;If you have a moment, B, see my comments in the “Troy on Mitt” thread yesterday.
    Thanks for the response, Peter. I looked at your posts and understand that you’re still taking the measure of Perry. Fair enough. Let me add I think your criticisms and reservations about Romney are fair and appropriately expressed. I share them for the most part.

    However, I don’t think “I haven’t had time to make up my mind about Perry.” quite justifies the slack you showed him in the podcast. His claims in the debate about the support he’d received from Merck were baldly inaccurate, and what’s worse, obviously so. Does he actually think he can fool everyone with the line about only receiving $5000 from them? · Sep 15 at 12:19pm

    Edited on Sep 15 at 12:20 pm

    Can you provide a couple of links to sources on this, B?&nbsp; If you have a moment, that is?&nbsp; I just plain haven’t read up on it.&nbsp;

    • #18
    • September 16, 2011 at 4:15 am
  19. Profile photo of Quinn the Eskimo Member

    I wanted to address the question of why Perry’s endorsement of Gore is less bothersome than Romney’s distancing himself from Reagan/Bush.

    First, Perry, at the time a Southern Democrat, endorsed a Southern democrat before the South flipped Republican in 1994.&nbsp; It’s not like he endorsed Dukasis.&nbsp; There is some logic to it.&nbsp; By contrast, Romney was running as a Republican when he was not defending Reagan from Ted Kennedy.&nbsp; It’s easier to excuse party loyalty than party disloyalty.

    Second, Reagan had a substantial record of accomplishment by 1994, including the events leading up to the fall of the Berlin Wall.&nbsp; Romney wouldn’t stand by that.&nbsp; By contrast, Perry supported someone who lost in 1988 and a Republican won that year anyway, so it appears in retrospect like more of a lark.

    • #19
    • September 16, 2011 at 5:38 am
  20. Profile photo of BThompson Inactive
    Peter Robinson&nbsp;Can you provide a couple of links to sources on this, B?&nbsp; If you have a moment, that is?&nbsp; I just plain haven’t read up on it.

    No problem, Peter. I believe I heard this from the Michael Medved show or a different Salem Network program. But the Houston Chronicle has written about it as well. Click here.

    Beyond this specific issue, I think Perry is going to be vulnerable on the Good Ol’ Boy/Crony Capitalism charge. This article from the WSJ explores that a little more.

    I’m not anti-Perry. But I think his electability issues need to be pointed out in the same manner Romney’s are. I too will support whole-heartedly whomever the nominee is. At this point, my view is that Romney is going to appeal to the general election voters more. If after a fair vetting process, though, Perry shows himself to have a good defense for his vulnerabilities and displays the campaigning competence and political skill Romney has been displaying (questionable record aside) I’ll be happy to get behind him. I just don’t want people giving Perry a pass because he seems more conservative.

    • #20
    • September 16, 2011 at 6:01 am
  21. Profile photo of BThompson Inactive
    Peter Robinson&nbsp;If you have a moment, B, see my comments in the “Troy on Mitt” thread yesterday.

    Thanks for the response, Peter. I looked at your posts and understand that you’re still taking the measure of Perry. Fair enough. Let me add I think your criticisms and reservations about Romney are fair and appropriately expressed. I share them for the most part.

    However, I don’t think “I haven’t had time to make up my mind about Perry.” quite justifies the slack you showed him in the podcast. His claims in the debate about the support he’d received from Merck were baldly inaccurate, and what’s worse, obviously so. Does he actually think he can fool everyone with the line about only receiving $5000 from them? That’s the type of slipperiness that needs to have a spotlight shown upon it. I was disappointed that defense from him received no attention. What’s more, it’s of a pattern that has been written and talked about since he got into the race, including here on Ricochet. It’s fine taking time making up one’s mind, but red flags shouldn’t go by unexamined because you’re still thinking things over.

    • #21
    • September 16, 2011 at 12:19 pm
  22. Profile photo of Cunctator Inactive

    &nbsp;Hey Aaron, I’m not trying to reopen the debate about constitutionality vs legislation.&nbsp; I just wanted to point out some specific issues, there’s a nice coda from Pious Agnostic.

    • #22
    • September 16, 2011 at 12:30 pm
  23. Profile photo of Duane Oyen Member

    1) You’re welcome, James!&nbsp; As usual, take note, the Evil Republican Regressive Taxation scheme is in force.&nbsp; We proles who live our hands-to-mouths existences in the far exurbs, where land is cheaper, now find ourselves taxed to provide window upgrades for the plutocrats’ estates near Edina (that last name means something to people from Minneapolis).

    2) I wish Romney had the ideological convictions of Reagan.&nbsp; He does not.&nbsp; I wish Perry had the integrity and personal grace of Bush.&nbsp; He does not.&nbsp; What we see is what we are getting.

    3) The “base” is not those now heavily involved.&nbsp; People like us who are continuous political junkies make up a fraction of the actual base.&nbsp; The real base doesn’t show up until after Iowa (caucuses also attract a more involved and ideological subset of the voting public).&nbsp; The current base can remove people, it cannot pick winners.

    4) If we elected who we like, got a supermajority in Congress, and started rapidly removing large swaths of government, our president would probably be as unpopular as Obama is now.&nbsp; America’s conservatism is not so much ideological, but in attitude.&nbsp; We tend to dislike massive, rapid change.

    • #23
    • September 18, 2011 at 12:06 pm
  24. Profile photo of Grendel Member
    Pious Agnostic

    Erik Larsen:&nbsp; If people stop having you-know-what in the various ways this can be done, perhaps then HPV infection&nbsp;will then cease to be “a public health threat”.&nbsp; But, for some reason, I don’t see this happening.

    Correct on all points. It baffles me that there is any controversy concerning vaccinating children against a disease that causes misery and death in such high numbers. That it is primarily transmitted sexually is immaterial and irrelevant. · Sep 15 at 9:58am

    Wrong on that point.&nbsp; This is not a social issue that justifies society’s use of state compulsion.&nbsp; The difference is that mass schooling per se creates conditions for smallpox, DPT, etc. epidemics.&nbsp; That is not the case with HPV.&nbsp; Your argument amounts to the standard Liberal Fascist line:&nbsp; “It makes me feel virtuous to make you do what I know is for your own good”.&nbsp; “Self-Congratulation as a Basis for Social Policy” as Thomas Sowell puts it.

    Why don’t we just make all school-children open tax-advantaged investment accounts to inoculate them against the “disease” of a penurious old-age&nbsp; “that causes misery and death in such high numbers”.

    • #24
    • September 19, 2011 at 12:17 pm
  25. Profile photo of Grendel Member

    Not sure Troy Senik meant that NoVa celebrates kids’ stealing their dad’s pistols and shooting their classmates, even it has a good beat and is easy to dance to (see 0:15).&nbsp; Unless Blue Yeti is a closet gun controller.

    All the other kids with the pumped up kicks You’d better run, better run, outrun my gun All the other kids with the pumped up kicks You’d better run, better run, faster than my bullet

    But I do like the phrase “pumped up kicks”.

    • #25
    • September 19, 2011 at 12:36 pm
  26. Profile photo of Inactive
    Anonymous

    Grendel, I think you’re being a bit too literal…

    • #26
    • September 20, 2011 at 11:06 am