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Ricochet Podcast #39: The Shrinking Violets

 

The title is truly a misnomer, because as you’ll hear, this group is anything but. Pat Caddell, Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels, and National Review’s Jim Geraghty take no prisoners in a very spirited discussion about many of the important races around the country, whether or not folks in other states may get the chance to vote for the Governor, the Republican’s overall national strategy, the Tea Party, and a certain candidate in Delaware. In fact, we’re laying on extra server capacity for the anticipated reaction to that particular part of the podcast. Have at it!

Grab your clubs, we’re hitting the links:

  • Valley Of The Dolls is the famously camp film version of Jacqueline Susann’s best-selling novel chronicling the rise and fall of three young ladies in show business. Suffice to say, they often slept late. Fun fact: the screenplay was written by Helen Duetsch and Dorothy Kingsley (corrected).

  • Do not adjust your earbuds. That clicking noise is Jim Geraghty adjusting his new microphone. Hey, we do this live.
  • The Republican Governor’s Association (chaired by Ricochet’s Haley Barbour) web ads may be found on their YouTube page.
  • Michael Barone’s column on “Skinflint” Daniels’ chances of winning the presidency.
  • However, Commentary’s Jennifer Rubin (via Matt Continetti) worries that too much austerity is a trap.
  • The most recent Ricochet discussion on Christine O’Donnell featuring the “I Didn’t Go To Yale” ad is here. Caddell also mentioned the SNL parody of the first “I’m You” ad.
  • Thinking of running for elected office? You may want to consider hiring Fred Davis‘ Strategic Perception, Inc. to create your media. Davis has created thousands of political ads, including “I’m You” and the “Mourning In America” ad that plays off the classic spot created for Ronald Reagan’s 1984 presidential campaign.
  • The links to Sal Russo and the Tea Party Express. We report, you decide.
  • Dr. Robert Steele appeared on Ricochet Podcast #16, way back in May. If he wins, we’ll take most of the credit.
  • James Lileks’ line “now is the time on Sprockets when we dance,” is from the classic SNL sketch featuring Mike Meyers. The Hebrew subtitles were not part of the original broadcast.
  • Rob quotes Winston Churchill’s “Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat” speech, his first as Prime Minister. It was delivered to the House of Commons on May 13th, 1940. Via the miracle of the internet, you can listen to it here.
  • Jeb Bush was also a podcast guest back in the early days. And by early days, we mean April.
  • The much maligned Christine O’Donnelll piece Anne Applebaum wrote for Slate claims that some Americans (not us!) resent upward mobility.
  • We considered ending the podcast with Boola Boola, but Yale’s fight song is simply too lame for that.

Music from this week’s episode:

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  1. Profile photo of The Mugwump Inactive

    RE: a republican national message.

    First principles, gentlemen. Personal liberty based on limited government combined with fiscal sobriety. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

    • #1
    • October 14, 2010 at 4:21 am
  2. Profile photo of The Mugwump Inactive

    Note to Gov. Daniels: We have a Harley riding governor vs. a president on a girl’s bike. How hard is that to exploit?

    • #2
    • October 14, 2010 at 4:40 am
  3. Profile photo of The Mugwump Inactive

    Meg Whitman is trying to buy the State of California? Is that like buying Newsweek for a buck?

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    • October 14, 2010 at 4:48 am
  4. Profile photo of Trace Inactive
    ~Paules: Meg Whitman is trying to buy the State of California? Is that like buying Newsweek for a buck? · Oct 14 at 4:48am

    I say let her spend as much as she wants and if she wants to buy the whole state, so much the better.

    • #4
    • October 14, 2010 at 7:26 am
  5. Profile photo of Kennedy Smith Inactive

    There’s a Pat Caddell-Mike Murphy smackdown? Man, I’ll have to listen tonight rather than wait for the weekend.

    Of course, Murphy is handicapped by fighting in absentia. As if Pat “Chuck Norris” Caddell wasn’t hard enough to handle.

    • #5
    • October 14, 2010 at 8:09 am
  6. Profile photo of Pseudodionysius Member

    Cat Scratch Fever by Ted Nugent. I’m waiting…

    • #6
    • October 14, 2010 at 9:31 am
  7. Profile photo of Karen Member

    I agree that “Mourning In America” video should be running on TV 24/7. It would definitely appeal to women. I’d consider myself a “Walmart Mom” (actually “Target Mom” is more appropriate for me), and if the GOP wishes to reach the WM’s, spots like this definitely would resonate. I really don’t believe that the GOP will really be able to take back power until they convince suburban moms to vote for them. They are a critical part of the voting electorate that is being ignored. And women like O’Donnell and Palin aren’t the answer. Trust me.

    • #7
    • October 14, 2010 at 9:37 am
  8. Profile photo of Pseudodionysius Member

    Pat Caddell, please drink more coffee next time. Also, we need to add punch and kick sound effects when Pat gets excited.

    • #8
    • October 14, 2010 at 10:03 am
  9. Profile photo of Whiskey Sam Inactive

    Always a pleasure to hear Pat and Jim’s analysis. Pat seemed a little subdued, though.

    • #9
    • October 14, 2010 at 10:09 am
  10. Profile photo of EJHill Member

    Pat Caddell rips the guy running Meg Whitman’s campaign. Be still my tongue.

    • #10
    • October 14, 2010 at 10:27 am
  11. Profile photo of Just in Time Inactive

    It was a bit annoying hearing Jim Geraghty being cut off everytime he tried to make a point.

    • #11
    • October 14, 2010 at 10:32 am
  12. Profile photo of Pseudodionysius Member

    It was a bit annoying hearing Jim Geraghty being cut off everytime he tried to make a point.

    I think the Pat/Jim pairing doesn’t work and I like them both.

    • #12
    • October 14, 2010 at 10:37 am
  13. Profile photo of Pseudodionysius Member

    May I also say that no one says the word “hack” quite like Pat?

    • #13
    • October 14, 2010 at 10:41 am
  14. Profile photo of EJHill Member
    Pseudodionysius: May I also say that no one says the word “hack” quite like Pat? · Oct 14 at 10:41am

    And that means a lot coming from a guy who’s got hairballs.

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    • October 14, 2010 at 10:51 am
  15. Profile photo of Trace Inactive

    Pat Caddell was great, if a bit FOXy (“Dicky Morris” was classic!) but someone needs to brief him on the Ricochet CoC… “Republicans share the same nursemaid” perhaps would have been a better alternative. But next time you need to pair him with someone a bit more… muscular. Poor Jim G. never had a chance to get a word in edgewise.

    • #15
    • October 14, 2010 at 11:06 am
  16. Profile photo of EJHill Member

    Caddell gets one thing wrong. He says O’Donnell should have been bought off by being allowed to run for the House instead. But Delaware is so smalll the size of its House district is the state. She still would have to run a state-wide campaign.

    • #16
    • October 14, 2010 at 11:35 am
  17. Profile photo of Kenneth Inactive

    Rob Long:

    “Governor Daniels, would you like to take a few calls from our listeners?”

    Peter Robinson:

    “Rob! Will….you…never….stop….?”

    Caller:

    “Yeah, Governor Daniels, folks keep saying you’re like, kinda wishy-washy?. Like Howdy Doody? You oughta grow a big ol’ mustache, you know? One of them handlebar jobs. An’ maybe a, like, “Born to Raise Hell” tattoo?

    Mitch Daniels:

    “Interesting. The other day, my daughters suggested the 3-day-beard thing. They’ve got a crush on Joe Miller.”

    Rob:

    “OK! Let’s go to….Susan….in New York City.”

    Caller:

    “I can never remember where Indiana is. Is it, like, north of Oklahoma and next to New Mexico?”

    Mitch Daniels:

    “Um, actually, Susan, we’re north of Kentucky and next to Illinois.”

    Caller:

    “It’s, like, flat, right? Farms and stuff? Summertime, all those farm guys doing farm stuff with their shirts off? Kind of like a Calvin Klein ad, but sweaty?”

    Mitch Daniels:

    “Well, yes, agriculture is an Indiana mainstay, but what many people don’t know is that we also have a robust manufacturing sector…”

    Caller:

    “You mean like guys in, um, steel mills, with their shirts off? And sweaty?”

    • #17
    • October 14, 2010 at 11:44 am
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    Anonymous
    Pseudodionysius: Cat Scratch Fever by Ted Nugent. I’m waiting… · Oct 13 at 9:31pm

    The next time Claire is on.

    • #18
    • October 14, 2010 at 12:00 pm
  19. Profile photo of Duane Oyen Member

    Er, I woln’t have any substantive comments till I listen in as I do every week on my Saturday morning run.

    But I know one bit of trivia- the Valley of the Dolls screenplay was not written by Roger Ebert. He wrote Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, the soft-porn sequel filmed by schlock director Russ Meyer. Mr. Ebert, sad though his current health situation may be and which we regret out of our loving humanity, is not classy enough to be associated with the original fillum.

    • #19
    • October 15, 2010 at 1:04 am
  20. Profile photo of Kenneth Inactive
    EJHill: Caddell gets one thing wrong. He says O’Donnell should have been bought off by being allowed to run for the House instead. But Delaware is so smalll the size of its House district is the state. She still would have to run a state-wide campaign. · Oct 14 at 11:35am

    His point was, “If you think you can win statewide, then go for the House race. At least that way if (when) you lose, you won’t cost the GOP a critical Senate seat.”

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    • October 15, 2010 at 1:20 am
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    Anonymous
    Duane Oyen: But I know one bit of trivia- the Valley of the Dolls screenplay was not written by Roger Ebert. He wrote Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, the soft-porn sequel filmed by schlock director Russ Meyer. Mr. Ebert, sad though his current health situation may be and which we regret out of our loving humanity, is not classy enough to be associated with the original film. · Oct 14 at 1:04pm

    You are absolutely right and the post has been corrected. The BY regrets the error.

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    • October 15, 2010 at 1:45 am
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    Kenneth His point was, “If you think you can win statewide, then go for the House race. At least that way if (when) you lose, you won’t cost the GOP a critical Senate seat.” · Oct 14 at 1:20pm

    Perhaps you are correct. His phone line wasn’t the greatest. Having lived in Delaware, it’s still hard to think of it as a state. It’s has two media markets and neither one belongs to the state (Philadelphia in the North and Salisbury Md to the South)

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    • October 15, 2010 at 2:02 am
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    EJHill
    Pseudodionysius: May I also say that no one says the word “hack” quite like Pat? · Oct 14 at 10:41am
    And that means a lot coming from a guy who’s got hairballs. · Oct 14 at 10:51am

    You betcha!!!

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    • October 15, 2010 at 2:23 am
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    Blue Yeti
    Duane Oyen: But I know one bit of trivia- the Valley of the Dolls screenplay was not written by Roger Ebert. He wrote Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, the soft-porn sequel filmed by schlock director Russ Meyer. Mr. Ebert, sad though his current health situation may be and which we regret out of our loving humanity, is not classy enough to be associated with the original film. · Oct 14 at 1:04pm
    You are absolutely right and the post has been corrected. The BY regrets the error. · Oct 14 at 1:45pm

    Edited on Oct 14 at 02:00 pm

    Mark Steyn did a very funny column on Russ a few years back (was likely an obituary). It would be great to feature it on Ricochet, after you pay the extensive royalties and protection money to his posse.

    • #24
    • October 15, 2010 at 2:25 am
  25. Profile photo of Jimmy Carter Member

    I enjoyed “The Pat Coddell Show.”

    Could You please provide the link to the current Ricochet podcast?

    • #25
    • October 15, 2010 at 6:05 am
  26. Profile photo of Peter Francis Inactive

    This was one of the most enjoyable podcasts – sign up Pat Caddell every week! Better yet, put his political wisdom together with Barbour/RGA and Rove/Gillespie/Crossroads and inundate the (visual) airwaves with those national GOP ads that will possibly get the 20+ more House seats and 1-2 more Senators.

    I wonder if Pat could be convinced to change his party registration thereby enabling his hiring by the RNC?

    • #26
    • October 15, 2010 at 8:22 am
  27. Profile photo of Todd Member

    Pat was fantastic. I never really thought through the potential “agency problem” between candidates and their political advisers. Meaning, the political operatives may have an incentive to advise their client to spend lots of money on advertising, which might help the advisers make lots of money, but it might not always be in the best interest of getting the candidate elected.

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    • October 15, 2010 at 9:56 am
  28. Profile photo of ParisParamus Member

    Cadelll is great. I love his enthusiasm. He said HÄCK. I wonder what his actual political views are.

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    • October 15, 2010 at 12:04 pm
  29. Profile photo of Dan Holmes Inactive

    Pat identified the gist of the split of the main competing philosophies of the Republican party (Elitists vs Ordinary Folk), then at first seemed to be disparaging of the Elitists, and then roundly criticized the Ordinary Folks on everything from tactics to philosophy. I tend to come down on the side of Ordinary so-so candidates rather than good RINOs who pump up the numbers by getting elected more readily but do little else to help the (conservative, at least) Republican cause. To me, the Ordinaries are the conservatives, while the Elitists are the RINOs

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    • October 16, 2010 at 2:34 am
  30. Profile photo of ParisParamus Member

    In faulting “The Republicans” for not messaging well enough, I think he may fail to account for the fragmentation and decline of media, and the difficultly and expense of having “ads up” attacking the Democrats.

    Maybe the age of faking campaigns is over. Maybe Twitter killed the political media consultant.

    • #30
    • October 16, 2010 at 8:05 am
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