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Ricochet Podcast #100: Number 100

 

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Finally. Just our hosts today, no guests. James Lileks, Rob Long, and Peter Robinson ruminate on the New Hampshire primary, the presumptive nominee, a classic Mel Brooks movie, and the future of Ricochet.

Music from this week’s episode: 

  • This Is Why We Fight by The Decemberists

  • Puttin’ On the Ritz by Gene Wilder and Peter Boyle

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  1. Profile photo of 1967mustangman Member

    I knew there was a reason I was delaying going to the gym today!  Thanks guys!

    • #1
    • January 8, 2012 at 1:52 am
  2. Profile photo of Nobody's Perfect Inactive

    The Edison Hotel?  James, anyone who knows anything about Manhattan knows that the Edison is where you take a Times Square tranny for a couple of hours of recreation.  You get what you pay for, partner.  

    • #2
    • January 8, 2012 at 2:38 am
  3. Profile photo of Pilli Member

    Rob, you are100% CORRECT .  Dunkin’ Donuts IS better than the burnt Starbucks stuff.  I am making some now.  Mmmmmm…

    • #3
    • January 8, 2012 at 2:52 am
  4. Profile photo of HerrForce1 Member

    Peter, perhaps you waited too long to share Young Frankenstein with your kids. I shared it much earlier with my kids and hmmph-hmmphed over the several questionable lines. I relish how they adorn our vernacular with one-liners around the house. My son recently told me as I ascended our stairs that I should “Stay close to ze candles…ze shtaircase…can be twachewous…” As a teacher, I dub every new “Abby” as “Abby Normal” and proceed to explain why. They enjoy that clip! Cheers!

    • #4
    • January 8, 2012 at 3:36 am
  5. Profile photo of Crow's Nest Member

    I only just started listening to the podcast, but, Rob, you’ve nailed it.

    There is absolutely no comparison between fresh brewed Dunkin’ Donuts coffee and Starbucks. Friends, I’ve lived in both Seattle and New England. I love many things about Seattle. But Rob is totally on point here. Dunkin’ Donuts is far more flavorful than overly roasted Starbucks (and, I might add, I’m a navy guy. I like very strong 3AM black coffee–Starbucks isn’t “strong”, it’s burned)

    • #5
    • January 8, 2012 at 3:46 am
  6. Profile photo of Guruforhire Member
    LowcountryJoe: The “Tea Party” was hijacked by populists who claimed to speak for “it”.  I knew very early in that it this was going to happen when my SoCon neighbor — who’s a squish regarding capitalism — began to self-identify her self as a member.  Most people seemed to forget (or just not know) that the movement started with Santelli’s rant against mortgage bailouts and the moral hazard of creating government dependencies.

    Please correct me if you believe I’m wrong about this. · Jan 7 at 8:46pm

    Edited on Jan 07 at 08:47 pm

    The tea party was a barf of conservative dissatisfaction, and it wasnt hijacked by anyone.  There was never anything to hijack.

    • #6
    • January 8, 2012 at 4:03 am
  7. Profile photo of Peter Robinson Founder
    Brady Kiel: Peter, perhaps you waited too long to share Young Frankenstein with your kids. I shared it much earlier with my kids and hmmph-hmmphed over the several questionable lines. I relish how they adorn our vernacular with one-liners around the house. My son recently told me as I ascended our stairs that I should “Stay close to ze candles…ze shtaircase…can be twachewous…” As a teacher, I dub every new “Abby” as “Abby Normal” and proceed to explain why. They enjoy that clip! Cheers! · Jan 7 at 2:36pm

    Your kids sound more inventive than mine.  All I’ve been getting is a lot of “Frau Bluchers,” followed, of course, by whinnying.

    • #7
    • January 8, 2012 at 4:49 am
  8. Profile photo of Keith Preston Member

    “put the candle back!”

    • #8
    • January 8, 2012 at 5:22 am
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    Anonymous

    I added my favorite line at the very end of the podcast. Wait for it…

    • #9
    • January 8, 2012 at 5:31 am
  10. Profile photo of RobininIthaca Member
    Brady Kiel: Peter, perhaps you waited too long to share Young Frankenstein with your kids. I shared it much earlier with my kids and hmmph-hmmphed over the several questionable lines. I relish how they adorn our vernacular with one-liners around the house. My son recently told me as I ascended our stairs that I should “Stay close to ze candles…ze shtaircase…can be twachewous…” As a teacher, I dub every new “Abby” as “Abby Normal” and proceed to explain why. They enjoy that clip! Cheers! · Jan 7 at 2:36pm

    Loved today’s podcast!  It was a treat to hear just the three of you uninterrupted and I must admit that we watched Young Frankenstein with our then 13 year old (I know – I know!) and all of us laughed hysterically.  James brought the whole thing back to life perfectly and now I’m going to see if we can stream it on Netflix.

    • #10
    • January 8, 2012 at 5:35 am
  11. Profile photo of Jimmy Carter Member

    Yer coffee tastes bitter or burnt? Add a touch of salt.

    • #11
    • January 8, 2012 at 6:27 am
  12. Profile photo of Matthew Gilley Member

    Dunkin Donuts?  

    Krispy Kreme.  That is all.

    • #12
    • January 8, 2012 at 6:27 am
  13. Profile photo of LowcountryJoe Member
    Guruforhire

    LowcountryJoe: The “Tea Party” was hijacked by populists who claimed to speak for “it”.  I knew very early in that it this was going to happen when my SoCon neighbor — who’s a squish regarding capitalism — began to self-identify her self as a member.  Most people seemed to forget (or just not know) that the movement started with Santelli’s rant against mortgage bailouts and the moral hazard of creating government dependencies.

    Please correct me if you believe I’m wrong about this.

    There was never anything to hijack…

    I did put Tea Party and it in scare quotes.  However, there was something there.

    Guruforhire The tea party was a barf of conservative dissatisfaction, and it wasnt hijacked by anyone…

    That’s right, it was dissatisfaction.  And since there was something there to hijack, many conservatives — no matter the values/views that drives/drove them — had wanted a nauseating and pre-existing “dissatisfaction banner” in which to fly that dissatisfaction under.

    • #13
    • January 8, 2012 at 6:29 am
  14. Profile photo of KC Mulville Member

    Mel Brooks saved my child once.

    My boy had done something that infuriated me, and I was ready to rip his head off, and he happened to ask me, if he told me his explanation, whether I would be angry. Instantly I flashed to Gene Wilder and said, ” I will NOT … be angry.” 

    Well, the memory of that scene from Young Frankenstein calmed me down, and probably saved his life.

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    • January 8, 2012 at 6:37 am
  15. Profile photo of Bereket Kelile Member

    It’s about time! It was starting to feel like the off-season for college football. Next time can you guys tape a couple in advance before you leave? You know, like rations. 

    • #15
    • January 8, 2012 at 6:53 am
  16. Profile photo of Jimmy Carter Member

    Nice touch, Mighty Blue Yeti [that cracked Me up].

    • #16
    • January 8, 2012 at 6:54 am
  17. Profile photo of Grendel Member

    There used to eb 7 DDs within a mile or so of my house, but one just closed.  As Joe Biden noted, they are all staffed by Gujarati.  I mention this because while the DD bean coffee is very good when I make it at home, the stuff they sell in the stores is weak.  (Still better than the overroasted Starbucks product–coffee for people who don’t like coffee.)

    Has anyone else noticed this?

    • #17
    • January 8, 2012 at 7:55 am
  18. Profile photo of Stephen Bishop Member

    I have to agree that Dunkin’ Donuts is better than Starbucks. Unfortunately Dunkin’ Donuts is not available in the UK and their CEO Nigel Travis who hails from the UK has no plans to open up in the UK as there are better investment opportunities elsewhere. So much for “We the people” in the UK.

    As for chick-fil-a I have never heard of the brand. Please send colonists to educate us.

    Great podcast BTW.

    • #18
    • January 8, 2012 at 9:37 am
  19. Profile photo of ParisParamus Member

    The opposite of their (fake) messiah isn’t our messiah, but an anti-messiah; Mr. Boring-Effective-Successful

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    • January 8, 2012 at 9:40 am
  20. Profile photo of LowcountryJoe Member

    The “Tea Party” was hijacked by populists who claimed to speak for “it”.  I knew very early in that it this was going to happen when my SoCon neighbor — who’s a squish regarding capitalism — began to self-identify her self as a member.  Most people seemed to forget (or just not know) that the movement started with Santelli’s rant against mortgage bailouts and the moral hazard of creating government dependencies.

    Please correct me if you believe I’m wrong about this.

    • #20
    • January 8, 2012 at 9:46 am
  21. Profile photo of The Great Adventure! Member

    Rob has given us definitive proof of the brainwashing power of advertising.  Dunkin Donuts coffee better than Starbucks?  It’s the equivalent of saying that a Big Mac is better than a Morton’s filet mignon.

    There are better coffees out there than Starbucks – Tully’s, Seattle’s Best, etc.  But Dunkin Donuts is not in that category.  DD’s coffee is in the same category as Denny’s.

    And y’all do realize that trashing on Starbucks is an early symptom of becoming a hipster, don’t you?

    • #21
    • January 8, 2012 at 10:19 am
  22. Profile photo of Michael Pate Inactive

    Maybe I am a pessimist but I don’t share Rob’s belief that Romney is going to have to run against a growing economy.  While everyone was saying how great the numbers were on Friday, Rusty Wallace was shutting down his two-car Nationwide Racing Team because neither he nor anyone else can find sponsors these days – at best, they just steal them away from each other. Illinois’ credit rating was lowered again. There are just too many things going wrong still to feel good about an economic recovery.

    • #22
    • January 8, 2012 at 10:19 am
  23. Profile photo of Capt. Spaulding Member

    Coffee preferences. Mel Brooks. All well and good. But the substance of this podcast was dispiriting. Rob and Peter seemed to be saying that if the economy continues to trend upward, the battle is lost because then the Republicans will be disarmed. Was no one ready to insist that this election is not about Obama but is instead about the direction of the country? The economic picture is a reflection of the socialist-leaning policies that will diminish the American spirit and make us poorer in ways reaching beyond the financial. “A Nation of Moochers,” as the title of Charlie Sykes’s new book dares to put it. James, you are a Dennis Prager fan, and you have often heard him say the opponent is Leftism, not Obama. I didn’t hear this raised during the podcast. You needed Professor Rahe on the line.

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    • January 8, 2012 at 10:28 am
  24. Profile photo of ParisParamus Member

    The podcast does bring up a troubling dynamic for the fall campaign (for Romney or anyone else): things getting better.

    I am disturbed that the issue of the true unemployment rate is not a major issue–maybe it will become one?  The wholesale discarding of workers (300,000, I think in November)  from the unemployment denominator is criminal.  Why is this not getting more play?  The real unemployment rate is no less than 10% +.  HELLO?

    In any case, Obama probably wins if war “breaks out” with Iran.  In fact, the length of the Libya “kinetic whatever” lays the groundwork for an Iran thing taking long enough for Iran to be a crisis for many months.

    • #24
    • January 8, 2012 at 10:58 am
  25. Profile photo of Douglas Member

    One, you never need a reason to talk about the Mel Brooks classics. I look forward to episodes where half the show goes to Blazing Saddles or History of the World Part I. Two, I second the member above who mentioned Krispy Kreme’s coffee. We have a KK bakery nearby, and even with the smell of those doughnuts cooking, I’ve gone in at 2 a.m. before just to get their coffee. It smells and tastes that good.

    As for the politics, well, I kind of agree that it looks like it’s Romney. And I can’t tell you how depressed that makes me. If it’s Romney, it’s over. When you’re not excited about your guy, genuinely excited, your guy loses. Every single time. See Gerald Ford. See Bush’s second campaign. See Bob Dole. See McCain. When you settle, you lose. Just the way it is. If it’s Romney, write off 2012.

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    • January 8, 2012 at 12:22 pm
  26. Profile photo of Chris Campion Thatcher
    Douglas: As for the politics, well, I kind of agree that it looks like it’s Romney. And I can’t tell you how depressed that makes me. If it’s Romney, it’s over. When you’re not excited about your guy, genuinely excited, your guy loses. Every single time. See Gerald Ford. See Bush’s second campaign. See Bob Dole. See McCain. When you settle, you lose. Just the way it is. If it’s Romney, write off 2012. · Jan 7 at 11:22pm

    That’s quitter talk.

    While I think the best candidates for the office are not to be found in the primaries, the fact remains that whoever the candidate is will start, soon, to dismantle the myth of Obama’s successes with every single breath, dollar, and erg of energy in his corpus.  There’s enough of the “unhappy in the middle” voter (what many of the self-identified “independents” really are) to vote in a different direction this time around, if they’re reminded just how much money has been spent, how much political capital has been wasted worldwide, and how facetious Dear Lear truly is.

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    • January 9, 2012 at 1:25 am
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    The Great Adventure!:

    And y’all do realize that trashing on Starbucks is an early symptom of becoming a hipster, don’t you? · Jan 8 at 9:19am

    The guys are sadly about 10 years late to the “Starbucks coffee sucks” parade, but that doesn’t make their coffee suck any less.  Over-roasting the beans isn’t flavor, and never has been – but it’ll sure sell to a crowd of yutzes that think the ambiance means the coffee will always be good.

    If you want some real coffee, try something from Costa Rica, direct from the seller.  Harder to get, less ubiquitous, but well worth the money.

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    • January 9, 2012 at 1:28 am
  28. Profile photo of Chris Campion Thatcher

    I can understand where being present at the debate might be more deflating than inflating, in terms of being excited about the Republican candidates.  I had half a mind to drive down to NH from Vermont when this was first announced, in fact, but the “big pull” wasn’t there.  Meaning I was less than pumped and jacked to see the suits hitting their mediocre points instead of clearly enunciating what’s wrong with the size of the federal government, and how President Barry is the penultimate example of how this model is catastrophically wrong.  It’s so stupidly wrong I’d like to throw a bucket of water on the fire, but the fire is really the political class, the people who deign to descend now and again to local coffee shops, so they can put a picture up on their taxpayer-funded website to let everyone know they’ve got the Workin’ Man ™ in their thoughts when they head back to Washington.

    Garbage.  Even with a Tea Party impact in 2010, we’re going to borrow another 1.7 trillion in one year to fund the annual deficit.  $1.7 trillion, in 1 year.

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    • January 9, 2012 at 1:34 am
  29. Profile photo of ParisParamus Member
     Douglas: When you’re not excited about your guy, genuinely excited, your guy loses. Every single time. See Gerald Ford. See Bush’s second campaign. See Bob Dole. See McCain. When you settle, you lose. Just the way it is. If it’s Romney, write off 2012. · Jan 7 at 11:22pm 

    The first time I wanted a Republican to win was “W”;s second term, so I really don’t know how valid this is.  Were you excited about “W”‘s candidacy?  What about his father’s run?  Ford’s loss might be entirely attributable to Watergate. I’ll assume a lot of people were excited about Reagan’s campaign in 1980.  But I think the data sample is too small.

    I’m not super-excited about Romney per se, but about slaying a dangerous, incompetent, arrogant jerk with a competent guy with the right values and priorities.

    I think “how excited you need to be about your candidate” is an open question.

    It’s also possible, as I wrote elsewhere, that Obama 2008 is/was excitement, and now people want competent-boring. 

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    • January 9, 2012 at 2:53 am
  30. Profile photo of Whiskey Sam Inactive

    The Young Frankenstein generation gap reminds me of a conversation I overheard last year on a flight.  Two college kids were discussing Blazing Saddles behind me, and the one was commenting about something he found funny in the movie when the other one replied, “Yeah, I liked that movie but I was a little embarrassed by it because it was so racist.”  The other kid then replied in same that it was just too much and inappropriate.  I wanted to turn around and shake them both while yelling, “That’s the point, you morons!  The racism is over the top to point out the absurdity of racism!”  Peter wanted a sign of American decline?  We’ve raised a generation that doesn’t “get” Mel Brooks.

    As an aside, if you want to see another great comedic turn by Peter Boyle, go track down the old movie Dream Team with Michael Keaton and Christopher Lloyd.  Boyle kills it as a mental patient who thinks he’s Jesus.

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    • January 9, 2012 at 4:47 am
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