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Oliver Stone, Fraud

 

Showtime is airing a new television series, “Oliver Stone’s Untold History of the United States,” which is being marketed with a companion book of the same name. The entire project represents a fraud.

But don’t take my word for it. Listen to our brethren at Pajamas Media, Roger Simon and Lionel Chetwynd, who discuss the series with historian Ron Radosh. (To my mind, by the way, Radosh represents an almost saintly figure. A man who dedicated his early years to the left, Ron has dedicated himself ever since to the painstaking labor of writing the history of the twentieth century, intent on telling–yes–the truth.)

A quarter of an hour that everyone should watch–and email to every high school and college student in his family.

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  1. Profile photo of Roberto Member

    It’s déjà vu all over again. What Howard Zinn strived for with his vacuous diatribe written for a previous generation Stone attempts to continue for a generation educated in politics and history by the Daily Show.

    Stalin passes the the rhetorical torch to Khrushchev, Khrushchev laterals to Gorbachev who fumbles but in a spectacular turn about for Team Communism Zinn, who initially looked to be playing for the opposite team, scores an own goal keeping them in the game. Finally when Zinn shuffles off the stage and the last spade of dirt is being thrown on the coffin of this vileness, hopefully leaving us all in peace, in comes Stone! This grave robber not deterred by any mere mortal restraint, such as reality, has decided to raise an army of 20th century zombies to plague us all yet again. 

    Sigh, it just never ends. 

    • #1
    • December 10, 2012 at 1:37 am
  2. Profile photo of Peter Robinson Founder
    Peter Robinson Post author
    Roberto: It’sdéjà vu all over again. What Howard Zinn strived for with his vacuous diatribe written for a previous generation Stone attempts to continue for a generation educated in politics and history by the Daily Show.

    Stalin passes the the rhetorical torch to Khrushchev, Khrushchev laterals to Gorbachev who fumbles but in a spectacular turn about for Team Communism Zinn, who initially looked to be playing for the opposite team, scores an own goal keeping them in the game. Finally when Zinn shuffles off the stage and the last spade of dirt is being thrown on the coffin of this vileness, hopefully leaving us all in peace, in comes Stone! This grave robber not deterred by any mere mortal restraint, such as reality, has decided to raise an army of 20th century zombies to plague us all yet again. 

    Sigh, it just never ends. · 3 minutes ago

    You’re right. It just never ends.

    • #2
    • December 10, 2012 at 1:41 am
  3. Profile photo of Black Prince Member

    Check out my response to Peter’s post on the member feed.

    • #3
    • December 10, 2012 at 2:22 am
  4. Profile photo of Mark Member

    I wrote about this in a November post after stumbling across an episode of Stone’s series. If you go to the post it links to another article I wrote with other recent examples of this slant. I believe it is increasing and seeping into places you would not have seen it in the past, such as our local bland Connecticut Magazine (an example in the linked article). It is causing a younger generation to misremember our history. Even if they don’t believe it all it moves the goalposts to the left. I wrote Showtime after I saw the episode and it responded that they had a commitment to “provocative and controversial” programming.

    • #4
    • December 10, 2012 at 2:22 am
  5. Profile photo of mesquito Inactive

    I remember a movie in which Stone had Donald Sutherland darkly implicating the Bell Helicopter Corporation in the Kennedy assassination.

    • #5
    • December 10, 2012 at 2:41 am
  6. Profile photo of EJHill Member
    Mark: I wrote Showtime after I saw the episode and it responded that they had a commitment to “provocative and controversial” programming.

    Provacative and controversial = anger conservatives.

    Does anyone think Showtime/CBS is lining up to show Hating Breitbart? Of course not. That would provoke the wrong people.

    • #6
    • December 10, 2012 at 2:42 am
  7. Profile photo of La Dernière Lettre Inactive

    I thought it was understood by most that when you watch, listen to, or read an Oliver Stone piece to expect a slanted point of view. It doesn’t hurt to point it out, but don’t we all get his schtick?

    • #7
    • December 10, 2012 at 3:53 am
  8. Profile photo of Jordan Member

    More like Oliver Stone’s “The Untrue History of the United States”

    • #8
    • December 10, 2012 at 3:56 am
  9. Profile photo of KingsKnight1 Inactive

     Anything with Oliver Stone’s name on it should be avoided like the plague. But as a general rule never go to Hollywood to learn history. Read.

    • #9
    • December 10, 2012 at 3:58 am
  10. Profile photo of Vice-Potentate Member

    I’ve watched a couple episodes. It’s unintentionally hilarious, but only if you’re into dark humor.

    • #10
    • December 10, 2012 at 4:12 am
  11. Profile photo of Scott R Member

    With two teens in high school, I’ve come to discover the sad irony that a Stone-ish version of events is the “told” story of the last century. An outrage, but honestly the teachers don’t know any better — such was their training.

    Looking forward to the comprehensive untold version with the publication of Peter’s book on the Cold War.

    • #11
    • December 10, 2012 at 4:40 am
  12. Profile photo of Paul J. Croeber Member

    At about 3:30 Radosh nails Stone. Indeed those quoted and cited were done so accurately. Legitimacy and validity (if not wisdom) are to be ascertained by execution of an industry standard?

    • #12
    • December 10, 2012 at 4:49 am
  13. Profile photo of AUMom Member

    Peter, may I add my request to make all haste in publishing your book? AUSon asked me some questions over Thanksgiving and I only had impressions to give him. Thanks.

    • #13
    • December 10, 2012 at 5:19 am
  14. Profile photo of Ed Driscoll Contributor

    I remember a movie in which Stone had Donald Sutherland darkly implicating the Bell Helicopter Corporation in the Kennedy assassination.

    Who didn’t Stone implicate in the killing of JFK?

    Other than Oswald, of course.

    • #14
    • December 10, 2012 at 6:10 am
  15. Profile photo of Black Prince Member
    Black Prince: Check out my response to Peter’s post on the member feed.

    A follow-up to my follow-up…again on the member feed.

    • #15
    • December 10, 2012 at 6:38 am
  16. Profile photo of Barkha Herman Member

    Michael Moynihan did a very good article in the Daily Beast, taking down Oliver Stone a while back. Link here.

    • #16
    • December 10, 2012 at 7:59 am
  17. Profile photo of Mollie Hemingway Contributor
    Barkha Herman: Michael Moynihan did a very good article in the Daily Beast, taking down Oliver Stone a while back. Link here. · 25 minutes ago

    Barkha, you have to read Stone’s response and then Moynihan’s awesome smackdown of said response. Link here.

    • #17
    • December 10, 2012 at 8:30 am
  18. Profile photo of Barkha Herman Member
    Mollie Hemingway, Ed.
    Barkha Herman: Michael Moynihan did a very good article in the Daily Beast, taking down Oliver Stone a while back. Link here. · 25 minutes ago

    Barkha, you have to read Stone’s response and then Moynihan’s awesome smackdown of said response. Link here. · 3 minutes ago

    And the twitter fight between Moynihan and John Cusak is comical!

    I am a big fan of Moynihan – he tends to call it as he sees it, with great depth and research not usually found in the media these days. He incidentally was responsible for the resignation of Jonah Lehrer from The New Yorker…

    • #18
    • December 10, 2012 at 9:00 am
  19. Profile photo of Pseudodionysius Inactive

    Stone is a Natural Born Shill for Thugs, Tyrants, Trotsky and Toadstools.

    • #19
    • December 10, 2012 at 12:53 pm
  20. Profile photo of Brian McMenomy Member

    How is poor Oliver supposed to go on now that his good buddy Chavez in Caracas is evidently not long for this world? Oh, yeah, agitprop, how silly of me.

    • #20
    • December 11, 2012 at 6:36 am