Jay-Z Calls Women “Hoes” at Obama Rally

 

At a campaign rally yesterday in Ohio, rapper Jay-Z, who has been appearing with the president at multiple events, referred to women as “hoes.”

Why did Obama allow this open affront to women to take place at his rally?

More importantly, will women voters in Ohio take notice?

UPDATE: If you listen closely, you’ll hear that, while Jay-Z substitutes “Mitt” for the word “B*tch,” the background vocalists are not making that substitution. They are bringing the B-word, uncensored. So add “B*tch” to the list of slurs against women uttered onstage at this Ohio Obama rally.

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  1. Profile photo of Kervinlee Member

    I’m sorry, I couldn’t make out a single word that was said.

    • #1
    • November 6, 2012 at 8:05 am
  2. Profile photo of Nic Neufeld Inactive

    I don’t listen to a lot of hiphop but growing up where I have I’ve certainly heard plenty. What stands out to me the most about this clip is just how mundane and surprisingly mediocre the performance is. Maybe he’s better in the studio, but his monotonous rapping on the flatted seventh, and seemingly bad sense of rhythm stand out to me. I figure, if you don’t have to worry about hitting the pitches, at least keep your rhythm tight and crisp. This guy is a super star? Really?

    Again, I am far from a connoisseur, I just expected better quality. Maybe he just had a bad mix in his in-ears or something. And remixing such a cliched old classic rock anthem, it all just feels so…pedestrian, and devoid of groove or funkiness. 

    As for will women voters take notice? Errr, probably not.

    • #2
    • November 6, 2012 at 8:05 am
  3. Profile photo of Cutlass Inactive

    Sandra Fluke is surely outraged.

    • #3
    • November 6, 2012 at 8:11 am
  4. Profile photo of Becky53 Inactive

    It just seems weird to deal with the false ‘war on women” and then give jay z a pass on calling women by a derogatory term.

    • #4
    • November 6, 2012 at 8:11 am
  5. Profile photo of MBF Member
    MBF

    As long as he doesn’t threaten to make the “hoes” pay for their own birth control, he’s cool.

    • #5
    • November 6, 2012 at 8:20 am
  6. Profile photo of Cuban Mike Inactive

    What else do you expect when they consider women to be preoccupied with their genitalia to begin with?

    • #6
    • November 6, 2012 at 8:22 am
  7. Profile photo of Richard Fulmer Member

    No surprise. This is on the same level as the rest of the president’s campaign.

    • #7
    • November 6, 2012 at 8:23 am
  8. Profile photo of Pejman Yousefzadeh Inactive

    1. Because he knows he will get away with it; he is a Democrat, after all.

    2. Unless those women voters are Republicans, they will neither take notice, nor care . . . unless Jay-Z comes out as a Republican. Then, the fit will hit the shan.

    • #8
    • November 6, 2012 at 8:25 am
  9. Profile photo of Nathan Harden Contributor
    Nathan Harden Post author

    Hip Hop today is not built on the live performance. It’s an afterthought. Usually a montage of pre-recorded tracks pared down to about half the radio length, and played rapidly with a lot of gesticulation. You would have to go see The Roots to see one of the few good live hip-hop acts out there.

    Nic Neufeld: I don’t listen to a lot of hiphop but growing up where I have I’ve certainly heard plenty. What stands out to me the most about this clip is just how mundane and surprisingly mediocre the performance is. Maybe he’s better in the studio, but his monotonous rapping on the flatted seventh, and seemingly bad sense of rhythm stand out to me. I figure, if you don’t have to worry about hitting the pitches, at least keep your rhythm tight and crisp. This guy is a super star? Really?

    Again, I am far from a connoisseur, I just expected better quality. Maybe he just had a bad mix in his in-ears or something. And remixing such a cliched old classic rock anthem, it all just feels so…pedestrian, and devoid of groove or funkiness. 

    • #9
    • November 6, 2012 at 8:25 am
  10. Profile photo of Percival Thatcher

    No big deal.

    Now, if he had said he had “binders full of hoes”….

    • #10
    • November 6, 2012 at 8:28 am
  11. Profile photo of KC Mulville Member

    Rumor has it that Joe Biden wrote these lyrics. They say he’s really into hip hop.

    • #11
    • November 6, 2012 at 8:30 am
  12. Profile photo of Becky53 Inactive

    …maybe he really means a yard implement?

    • #12
    • November 6, 2012 at 8:52 am
  13. Profile photo of paulebe Member

    If we’ve learned anything, we’ve certainly learned that there are speech codes for non-minorities that are not Democrats. This is juxtaposed by an utter lack of standards for civility, decency, and morality for the rest.

    Jay-Z is “the rest” and, therefore, okee dokee. 

    His talent is that he can rhyme – in a fashion. That’s it.

    • #13
    • November 6, 2012 at 9:18 am
  14. Profile photo of Paladin Inactive

    “99 problems”: I’ve got 99 problems but a (female dog) ain’t one is a mysogynistic enough song on it’s own. Replacing that particular slur for women with Mitt while keeping the hoes line is entirely in keeping with the high level of respect for women and political civility this campaign is famous for.

    • #14
    • November 6, 2012 at 9:20 am
  15. Profile photo of Misthiocracy Member
    Pejman Yousefzadeh: 1. Because he knows he will get away with it; he is a Democrat, after all.

    A big-money Democratic donor, to be more precise.

    • #15
    • November 6, 2012 at 9:57 am
  16. Profile photo of Misthiocracy Member

    He also uses the N-Word in that perfomance.

    • #16
    • November 6, 2012 at 9:58 am
  17. Profile photo of Richard Fulmer Member
    Paladin: “99 problems”: I’ve got 99 problems but a (female dog) ain’t one is a mysogynistic enough song on it’s own. Replacing that particular slur for women with Mitt while keeping the hoes line is entirely in keeping with the high level of respect for women and political civility this campaign is famous for. 

    Former Time reporter Nina Burleigh said of Bill Clinton, “I’d be happy to give him [oral sex] just to thank him for keeping abortion legal.” Nice crowd.

    • #17
    • November 6, 2012 at 10:16 am
  18. Profile photo of bagehot99 Inactive

    Jay-Z is exempt, because shut up, they explained.

    • #18
    • November 6, 2012 at 10:25 am
  19. Profile photo of Paul Erickson Member
    Misthiocracy: He also uses the N-Word in that perfomance. · 19 minutes ago

    He mentioned Newt?

    • #19
    • November 6, 2012 at 10:28 am
  20. Profile photo of Misthiocracy Member
    Nathan Harden: Hip Hop today is not built on the live performance. It’s an afterthought. Usually a montage of pre-recorded tracks pared down to about half the radio length, and played rapidly with a lot of gesticulation. You would have to go see The Roots to see one of the few good live hip-hop acts out there.

    In the words of Mr. Long, that’s exactly right.

    I wonder, is Jay-Z at all skilled when it comes to freestyling? When was the last time he ever had to perform freestyle?

    A good freestyle performance is a thing to behold.

    Methinks hip hop started going downhill when they stopped giving the DJ equal billing with the MC. When the act is as well known for the skill of the DJ as for the MC’s rhymes, there’s an incentive to give a good, technically-proficient live show.

    I’m trying to imagine a Beastie Boys show without Mixmaster Mike looking down upon them from his exalted position on the dais. It wouldn’t be nearly the same.

    • #20
    • November 6, 2012 at 10:31 am
  21. Profile photo of Goldgeller Member

    For what it’s worth, I don’t think this is a big deal. Besides, he [Jay Z] did say “if you don’t like my lyrics you can press fast forward.” 

    But it was clever and not really offensive to make the song the way he did. 

    I’m not a huge rap fan. (I am a big metal guy.) But Jay Z is really good and I just don’t feel it in me to really be bothered by this or try and score points on this. 

    • #22
    • November 6, 2012 at 11:51 am
  22. Profile photo of Nathan Harden Contributor
    Nathan Harden Post author

    OK: Gold, But imagine if Jay-Z was a Republican and this had been a Romney rally. Do you think the feminists would have let this go by without comment. No, they would have ridden these lyrics all the way through election, with Fluke and co. not able to talk about anything else. It’s the double standard among Dems that is so contemptible. For the same reason, Senator Byrd (D-WV) could use the n-word on national television and no one on the left batted an eye.

    Goldgeller: For what it’s worth, I don’t think this is a big deal. Besides, he [Jay Z] did say “if you don’t like my lyrics you can press fast forward.” 

    But it was clever and not really offensive to make the song the way he did. 

    I’m not a huge rap fan. (I am a big metal guy.) But Jay Z is really good and I just don’t feel it in me to really be bothered by this or try and score points on this. · November 6, 2012 at 10:51am

    • #23
    • November 9, 2012 at 4:23 am