From the No Surprise File: California Losing Jobs to Texas

 

Brace yourselves. Business, apparently, likes being in business-friendly environments. From the San Francisco Chronicle:

Chevron Corp. will move up to 800 jobs – about a quarter of its current headquarters staff – from the Bay Area to Houston over the next two years but will remain based in San Ramon, the oil company told employees Thursday.

The newly-shifted employees will join a large group in Houston:

The company already employs far more people in Houston – about 9,000 full-time employees and contractors – than it does [at its headquarters in] San Ramon. With a refinery in El Segundo (Los Angeles County) and oil field operations in Bakersfield, Chevron has roughly 10,000 workers throughout the Golden State.

Of course, now it’s 9,800 employees in Texas and 9,100 employees in California. But don’t read anything into that:

“It’s important to reiterate that we are a California-based company,” said Chevron spokesman Morgan Crinklaw. “We’ve been an important part of the state’s economy and growth for 130 years, and we remain committed to this state.”

Which is exactly the kind of thing professional spokespeople say right before they pull up stakes and head for the hills.

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  1. Profile photo of Chris Campion Thatcher

    They might remain committed to the state, but clearly the state is no longer committed to them.

    Buh-bye, jobs. Wave buh-bye! What’s much more painful for any rational Californians is that their move will be celebrated by many Progressives as being good for the state.

    • #1
    • December 22, 2012 at 1:01 am
  2. Profile photo of King Banaian Contributor

    Current price to rent a 26′ U-Haul one-way from San Francisco to Dallas: $2,035.

    Current price to rent a 26′ U-Haul one-way from Dallas to San Francisco: $1,175.

    (Play with other pairs here.)

    The difference in price tells you something about the relative demand for moving in each direction.

    • #2
    • December 22, 2012 at 1:01 am
  3. Profile photo of C. U. Douglas Thatcher

    Similarly, after passing a tax hike in November, California’s revenues continued to decline.

    Oops.

    • #3
    • December 22, 2012 at 1:02 am
  4. Profile photo of AHLondon Member

    I’m in Houston. Husband is an adjunct in Austin so is there about once a month. We were in Dallas last weekend. The state is hauling people in. I think half of Dallas is under construction to accommodate influx. Schools are busting. 

    We can keep up, but I’m with Joseph. Californians should leave their politics in California.

    • #4
    • December 22, 2012 at 1:02 am
  5. Profile photo of King Banaian Contributor

    P.S. SF – Houston $2,178. Houston – SF $1,006.

    • #5
    • December 22, 2012 at 1:03 am
  6. Profile photo of BlueAnt Member

    I’m shocked, shocked to find that capitalism is going on in here!

    • #6
    • December 22, 2012 at 1:18 am
  7. Profile photo of Jim Ixtian Inactive
    KC Mulville: Just out of curiosity … who’s after Texas? What states offer the best deal for a business?

    It would also be interesting to find out which companies and individuals are leaving California for tax & regulatory friendly places like Singapore, Hong Kong, Costa Rica, Panama, Chile, etc. Although it is anecdotal, I’ve recently met more and more people who are leaving not just California, but the US entirely and taking their companies, jobs, and tax revenues with them. California and the US could find themselves in a whole world of hurt sooner than they could imagine.

    • #7
    • December 22, 2012 at 2:28 am
  8. Profile photo of HeartofAmerica Member
    Boymoose: North Dakota ….. but you will need a very nice coat. · 1 hour ago

    And a house. Not many to be had. Housing is at a premium right now due to the oil boom.

    • #8
    • December 22, 2012 at 2:48 am
  9. Profile photo of HeartofAmerica Member
    AHLondon: I’m in Houston. Husband is an adjunct in Austin so is there about once a month. We were in Dallas last weekend. The state is hauling people in. I think half of Dallas is under construction to accommodate influx. Schools are busting. 

    We can keep up, but I’m with Joseph. Californians should leave their politics in California. · 1 hour ago

    Californians will ruin the state. Look what they did to Colorado. Housing prices will escalate.

    • #9
    • December 22, 2012 at 2:50 am
  10. Profile photo of Jerry Carroll Inactive

    Californians screwed up Montana, too.

    • #10
    • December 22, 2012 at 4:54 am
  11. Profile photo of SunnyOptimism Inactive

    Don’t worry , CA will soon impose a departure tax as well as a capital gains surcharge on all investment income retroactive to the day you first entered and resided in CA. Don’t believe it will happen? Think again, there’s nothing illegal about that. We lived in Irvine CA for three years while my wife finished her medical fellowship. She got amazing job offers from AZ and NV medical practices. She got half of what these others were offering from CA practices. We live in Tucson now and we couldn’t be happier. 60% lower state income tax and a 4% property tax with wide open spaces and plenty of beautiful scenery….lovin’ it!!!

    • #11
    • December 22, 2012 at 5:23 am
  12. Profile photo of TheSophist Inactive
    HeartofAmerica
    We can keep up, but I’m with Joseph. Californians should leave their politics in California. · 1 hour ago

    Californians will ruin the state. Look what they did to Colorado. Housing prices will escalate. · 3 hours ago

    Don’t need to look that far. Look at what they’re doing to Austin.

    • #13
    • December 22, 2012 at 7:00 am
  13. Profile photo of HeartofAmerica Member
    TheSophist
    HeartofAmerica
    We can keep up, but I’m with Joseph. Californians should leave their politics in California. · 1 hour ago

    Californians will ruin the state. Look what they did to Colorado. Housing prices will escalate. · 3 hours ago

    Don’t need to look that far. Look at what they’re doing to Austin. · 31 minutes ago

    Californians are a plague of locusts. They consume everything in their wake and leave the locals struggling to understand what happened to their peaceful (and cheaper) existence before they ravaged the land, the schools and the government.

    • #14
    • December 22, 2012 at 7:35 am
  14. Profile photo of SunnyOptimism Inactive

    Full Disclosure: I’m a born & bred New Yorker who did graduate school in MA, 10 years back in NYC, a brief stint in California and I now live in AZ. Total Blue-State background but I turned out to be a conservative (although I do admit to voting for Clinton in my youth…what, I was a low-information voter back in those days!!)

    Anyway, it would be nice to see some hard numbers put to this but I somewhat reject the idea that those moving out of CA and stinking up everyone else’s life are degenerate liberals. If anything, I would think moderate RINO squishes (aka, Rob Long) and staunch conservatives would be fleeing CA, not liberals.

    My brother and his wife (DINKs) live in NYC and they think I’m nuts for moving my family to…ahhhhhh…Arizona!! They are liberal, metro-sexual’s who couldn’t conceive of life where you actual have to drive long distances to get your groceries or, heaven forbid, not have a Starbucks within spitting range….they would never, ever leave their precious city. I think that’s more the norm than liberals abandoning the nanny-state.

    • #15
    • December 22, 2012 at 8:09 am
  15. Profile photo of flownover Inactive

    Take a look at this.

    A recreation supervisor makes $102,576 a year in San Ramon.

    What exactly does a recreation supervisor do ?

    Chevron and everybody else, except the recreation supervisors, should be beating a path outta town pronto .

    The playground is going to be a lonely place. $ 102,ooo ……

    • #16
    • December 22, 2012 at 10:03 am
  16. Profile photo of Frustrated iPad User Inactive

    The cost of living difference between the two Chevron offices is insane. People in the industry turn down offers from Chevron if they have to relocate all the time. Plus, word is out. If you ever reside in Cali, they hound you forever for taxes and fees. They put out a tax lien on me after I left the state because my state income tax was late. They keep reporting it to the credit bureaus every few years so I will pay the fee to get proof it was cleared up back in the nineties every time I close on a home or other major loan.

    • #17
    • December 22, 2012 at 10:39 am
  17. Profile photo of Joseph Paquette Inactive
    HeartofAmerica
    AHLondon: I’m in Houston. Husband is an adjunct in Austin so is there about once a month. We were in Dallas last weekend. The state is hauling people in. I think half of Dallas is under construction to accommodate influx. Schools are busting. 

    We can keep up, but I’m with Joseph. Californians should leave their politics in California. · 1 hour ago

    Californians will ruin the state. Look what they did to Colorado. Housing prices will escalate. · 20 hours ago

    Since the housing bust in California, their effect on local prices has been diminished. They aren’t bringing as much equity into new market.

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    • December 22, 2012 at 11:25 am
  18. Profile photo of Joseph Paquette Inactive
    HeartofAmerica
    TheSophist
    HeartofAmerica
    We can keep up, but I’m with Joseph. Californians should leave their politics in California. · 1 hour ago

    Californians will ruin the state. Look what they did to Colorado. Housing prices will escalate. · 3 hours ago

    Don’t need to look that far. Look at what they’re doing to Austin. · 31 minutes ago

    Californians are a plague of locusts. They consume everything in their wake and leave the locals struggling to understand what happened to their peaceful (and cheaper) existence before they ravaged the land, the schools and the government. · 15 hours ago

    Every chance I get to talk to a new Californian, I remind them that it was the socialist, union driven, running of the state that made them leave their ‘paradise’ and don’t bring those politics here.

    • #20
    • December 22, 2012 at 11:28 am
  19. Profile photo of Rob in N.CA Inactive

    Chevron is just following the wagon train, Comcast made news not 3 months agoish, that they were moving jobs out of CA. not to Texas if I recall. Two other local companies based in my town, have also picked up and moved to Dallas, in the past 2 years. Copart inc, which had it’s HQ here, it is an auto reseller of sorts. MV Transportation runs the bus systems for number of the regional transit systems in the area, it was originally started here about 25 or so years ago (as one of the drivers told me.) Also, Charles Schwab has moved a large part of its operations out of CA over the past 7 years, spread it between Phoenix, Denver, and Dallas.

    • #21
    • December 22, 2012 at 11:28 am
  20. Profile photo of The Cloaked Gaijin Member

    “…we remain committed to this state.” Why? You should be committed.

    • #22
    • December 22, 2012 at 11:37 am
  21. Profile photo of Aimee Jones Member

    A word of caution: Remember that all those people fleeing California for greener grass will likely bring their ideology with them. Having lived in an area that has seen its population boom in the past decade due to masses moving from large Northeastern and Midwestern urban areas in search of a better, more affordable lifestyle, I can tell you it doesn’t take long for things to shift noticeably. Our area, which was once rural/suburban and thriving, now more closely resembles those urban centers in terms of crime, local politics and economic development.

    • #23
    • December 22, 2012 at 11:46 am
  22. Profile photo of KC Mulville Member

    Just out of curiosity … who’s after Texas? What states offer the best deal for a business?

    • #24
    • December 22, 2012 at 12:35 pm
  23. Profile photo of Boymoose Inactive

    North Dakota ….. but you will need a very nice coat.

    • #25
    • December 22, 2012 at 12:39 pm
  24. Profile photo of Joseph Paquette Inactive

    The key to Texas’ success is in its government (or lack of it). We have conservative ideals in our political life blood and constitutional DNA. The state constitution only allows the legislature to meet for 90 days every 2 years (except by special session). That limits the mischief and reactionary law making. Further, our representatives actually have other jobs in the state. 

    Imagine the US Congress only meeting for 90 days every two years–conservative heaven. 

    P.S. The newcomers to Texas should undergo treatments to keep their politics out of the state, like spraying for the The Mediterranean fruit fly, California socialist ideals are dangerous to our indigenous life forms.

    • #26
    • December 22, 2012 at 12:49 pm
  25. Profile photo of Eric Hines Member
    Jerry Carroll: Californians screwed up Montana, too. · December 21, 2012 at 3:54pm

    Nor are they particularly welcome in Oregon.

    Is there a pattern?

    Eric Hines

    • #27
    • December 23, 2012 at 9:32 am
  26. Profile photo of Matthew Gilley Member

    Send us the jobs, keep the people. Californication is like a locust infestation.

    • #28
    • December 23, 2012 at 12:06 pm
  27. Profile photo of Joseph Paquette Inactive
    Aimee Jones: A word of caution: Remember that all those people fleeing California for greener grass will likely bring their ideology with them. Having lived in an area that has seen its population boom in the past decade due to masses moving from large Northeastern and Midwestern urban areas in search of a better, more affordable lifestyle, I can tell you it doesn’t take long for things to shift noticeably. Our area, which was once rural/suburban and thriving, now more closely resembles those urban centers in terms of crime, local politics and economic development. · December 22, 2012 at 10:46am

    Remind them that their politics are what drove the job out of their beloved home state. I never get tired of hearing, ‘that’s not how we did it in New York.’

    • #29
    • December 24, 2012 at 6:16 am
  28. Profile photo of swatter Inactive

    Swat here-

    Sorry Rob. This is not a good thing. Two cases in point- Oregon and Washington.

    Over the last say 30-40 years say, whenever there has been an emigration from California (there has been three or four of them), the formerly purple states of Oregon and Washington would get their influx of Californians. And yes, as expected, they were rude, presumptuous, arrogant, didn’t know how to drive, and demanded more and more government. Ergo, now Oregon and Washington are blue, blue states.

    Don’t you think Texas is going to end up the same way? As usual, just opining from outside the box.

    • #30
    • December 26, 2012 at 8:46 am
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