Desperately Defending Susan

 

At his East Room press conference earlier today, President Obama got a question regarding Senators McCain and Graham’s statement (see my post below) that they intend to block a potential nomination for U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice to serve as the next Secretary of State.

The response is notable for two reasons: (1) Obama seems to be arguing that Rice shouldn’t be held accountable for not knowing what the hell she was talking about because nobody else in the administration knew what the hell they were talking about either. (2) The “they have a problem with me” line marks the president’s final descent into becoming a character from a third-rate Aaron Sorkin screenplay.

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  1. Profile photo of Robert Barraud Taylor Inactive

    Ignorance: the best defense. After racism.

    • #1
    • November 15, 2012 at 4:03 am
  2. Profile photo of tabula rasa Member

    Sounds like the president considers his victory a mandate to do anything he wants. Hubris has destroyed greater men than him.

    Time for the Republicans to play hardball.

    To Troy’s point, hasn’t the Obama presidency always looked like an Aaron Sorkin drama? The difference is that this third rate drama has consequences.

    • #2
    • November 15, 2012 at 4:12 am
  3. Profile photo of Deacon Blues Inactive

    Too much besmirching and disgorging going on in politics these days.

    • #3
    • November 15, 2012 at 4:14 am
  4. Profile photo of Jack Richman Member
    Troy Senik, Ed.: .The “they have a problem with me” line marks the president’s final descent into becoming a character from a third-rate Aaron Sorkin screenplay. · · 20 minutes ago

    He can’t handle the truth!

    • #4
    • November 15, 2012 at 5:09 am
  5. Profile photo of Albertina Member

    Obama in press conference: Amb. Rice went on TV Sept.16th at the request of the White House and gave her best understanding of the intelligence that was provided for her. / Obama in debate (assisted by Candy Crowley): I called the Benghazi attack terrorism in the Rose Garden on Sept.12th. / Translation: I sent her out to peddle a false story, so don’t blame her!

    • #5
    • November 15, 2012 at 5:51 am
  6. Profile photo of Pseudodionysius Member

    Its getting awfully crowded under the bus. Given the current environment “full blown” is a problematic turn of phrase. Perhaps she’s entitled to diplomatic immunity? A czar appointment? 

    • #6
    • November 15, 2012 at 5:56 am
  7. Profile photo of dittoheadadt Member

    Once a community-organizing thug, always a community-organizing thug. For all his alleged intelligence, he sure hasn’t figured out how to adjust his rhetoric for the office he holds. He can’t help but speak in the c-o thug vernacular.

    He’s a thug, and a not-particularly-bright one at that.

    • #7
    • November 15, 2012 at 6:29 am
  8. Profile photo of I. raptus Member

    Well, it’s a positive thing to say, “Look, I’m the boss, if you want to blame someone, blame me.” But as Troy is suggesting, that only begs the question.

    • #8
    • November 15, 2012 at 6:37 am
  9. Profile photo of liberal jim Inactive

    Listen to what Obama said – She gave her UNDERSTANDING of the intelligence briefing she received. This is going to be a story of honest misunderstanding. Intelligence said one thing, but was not quite as specific as they might have been, but Rice’s understanding of it was something different.

    • #9
    • November 15, 2012 at 6:48 am
  10. Profile photo of DrewInWisconsin Member

    I also thought Graham’s response was very good:

    Mr. President, don’t think for one minute I don’t hold you ultimately responsible for Benghazi. I think you failed as Commander in Chief before, during, and after the attack,” Graham said in a rapidly issued statement.

    “We owe it to the American people and the victims of this attack to have full, fair hearings and accountability be assigned where appropriate,” Graham continued. “Given what I know now, I have no intention of promoting anyone who is up to their eyeballs in the Benghazi debacle.”

    • #10
    • November 15, 2012 at 7:04 am
  11. Profile photo of Retail Lawyer Member

    The problem with Rice is that she is too stupid or gullible to be in government at a rank higher than a clerk. The “Innocence of Muslims” video and resulting protest does not pass the smell test. No thinking person could have entertained this theory for more than a few minutes. This is assuming that she is honest.

    • #11
    • November 15, 2012 at 7:06 am
  12. Profile photo of Palaeologus Member

    I think we can safely conclude that the President prefers to wash his Rice.

    Since that little mystery has been wrapped up maybe I won’t have to hear anymore about this “Benghazi” place. Wherever that is.

    • #12
    • November 15, 2012 at 7:06 am
  13. Profile photo of Palaeologus Member
    I. raptus: Well, it’s a positive thing to say, “Look, I’m the boss, if you want to blame someone, blame me.” But as Troy is suggesting, that only begs the question.

    Pleading from behind.

    • #13
    • November 15, 2012 at 7:09 am
  14. Profile photo of DrewInWisconsin Member

    This also tells you that he just doesn’t want to talk about Benghazi. I can almost hear him saying “It’s a sex scandal now! Let’s talk about that!”

    • #14
    • November 15, 2012 at 7:11 am
  15. Profile photo of DrewInWisconsin Member

    So, I’ve always wondered: when The One gives a press conference, does the White House provide the kneepads, or does the press have to bring their own?

    • #15
    • November 15, 2012 at 7:12 am
  16. Profile photo of Clare Day Member

    So, the deaths of Tyrone Woods, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens have gone from ‘not optimal’ to ‘a problem’ but the real travesty is that anyone is critical of ‘the U.N. Ambassador’. Got it.

    • #16
    • November 15, 2012 at 7:16 am
  17. Profile photo of Chris Member

    The most striking part to me is the suggestion that mean Republicans are bullying this fine, upstanding, WOMAN because they think she is an “easy target” and they aren’t man enough to face him. Attention MSM – this is what a “dog whistle”sounds like.

    Chalk up another way it’s going to be a long four years….

    • #17
    • November 15, 2012 at 8:29 am
  18. Profile photo of Pseudodionysius Member

    Troy,

    I often forget to give you kudos on your wonderful way with headlines. Now, if only we can work Blue Lagoon into this spectacle. 

    • #18
    • November 15, 2012 at 8:32 am
  19. Profile photo of ConservativeWanderer Inactive
    Retail Lawyer: The problem with Rice is that she is too stupid or gullible to be in government at a rank higher than a clerk. 1 hour ago

    Precisely why Obama likes her.

    Surrounding himself with idiots (coughBidencough) makes him feel like the smart person everyone says he is.

    • #19
    • November 15, 2012 at 8:34 am
  20. Profile photo of Vance Richards Member

    “They have a problem with me.” Is he just figuring this out? Of course, he is the problem.

    • #20
    • November 15, 2012 at 8:39 am
  21. Profile photo of Pseudodionysius Member
    ConservativeWanderer
    Retail Lawyer: The problem with Rice is that she is too stupid or gullible to be in government at a rank higher than a clerk. 1 hour ago

    Precisely why Obama likes her.

    Surrounding himself with idiots (coughBidencough) makes him feel like the smart person everyone says he is. · 10 minutes ago

    What was that great Mark Steyn quip when talking about Kerry during his campaign stop in New Hampshire?

    “A thin skinned man can never surround himself with enough lackeys to blame for his own failings.”

    • #21
    • November 15, 2012 at 8:46 am
  22. Profile photo of Palaeologus Member

    DrewInWisconsin:

    This also tells you that he just doesn’t want to talk about Benghazi. I can almost hear him saying “It’s a sex scandal now! Let’s talk about that!”

    Drew, I think Pseud explained this administration’s longstanding policy on Troy’s other thread.

    • #22
    • November 15, 2012 at 8:48 am
  23. Profile photo of ConservativeWanderer Inactive
    Vance Richards: “They have a problem with me.” Is he just figuring this out? Of course, he is the problem. · 9 minutes ago

    Uh, no.

    His policies are the problem.

    Saying that he is the problem is just a short step from accepting the lefty’s statement that all disagreement with Obama is because of conservative racism.

    I don’t dislike Obama as a person. We don’t have a lot in common, but I expect that, say, at a ball game we’d get along fine, as long as politics was off the table (and both sides abided by the rule).

    I disagree with his policies, as I disagreed with many of Clinton’s, and Kerry’s, and Dukakis’, and Kennedy’s… and the list goes on.

    • #23
    • November 15, 2012 at 8:52 am
  24. Profile photo of Larry3435 Member
    tabula rasa: Sounds like the president considers his victory a mandate to do anything he wants. Hubris has destroyed greater men than him.

    Time for the Republicans to play hardball.

    To Troy’s point, hasn’t the Obama presidency always looked like an Aaron Sorkin drama? The difference is that this third rate drama has consequences. · 5 hours ago

    Edited 5 hours ago

    First, isn’t pretty much anyone a “greater man than him”?

    Second, I’m going to give Sorkin his due. Only Newsroom is a third rate drama. And I use the word “drama” advisedly. I use the words “third rate” with enthusiasm and gusto. But I admit, West Wing was pretty good.

    • #24
    • November 15, 2012 at 10:06 am
  25. Profile photo of HVTs Member

    Obama emphasizes that Rice “had nothing to do with Benghazi.” So why was she (his words) “making an appearance at the request of the White House” on all the Sunday talk shows specifically to speak about Benghazi? Why didn’t he say “I sent her”? 

    He thinks he is cleverly reinforcing his six-degrees-of separation strategy to anything that smacks of his personal accountability. Of course, the lapdog media failed with the obvious follow-up:

    ‘Mr. President, wouldn’t it be more accurate to say that you sent Ambassador Rice, instead of implying it was your staff that did so? And if she had nothing to do with the topic she was sent to speak about, why didn’t you send someone who knew what they were talking about? Your critics charge it was because you were deliberately obfuscating the truth, since the Benghazi attack undermined your Administration’s claims concerning al Qaeda, you were woefully unprepared for an attack for which ample warning existed, and you failed to respond with force that might have saved four American lives, including your own Ambassador.’

    Is that so hard a question for a crack White House correspondent to think of?

    • #25
    • November 15, 2012 at 11:05 am
  26. Profile photo of SParker Member

    I’m beginning to have deep sympathy for Susan Rice, which is hard to believe possible. Not only does she get thrown under a bus she wasn’t even standing near, she gets the “she tried her best to understand what we gave her to say,” with the “it’s really hard for her, you know” implication. I’d be looking around for something to throw in the general direction of his head.

    • #26
    • November 16, 2012 at 12:23 pm
  27. Profile photo of GypsyNuke Inactive
    ConservativeWanderer

    I don’t dislike Obama as a person. We don’t have a lot in common, but I expect that, say, at a ball game we’d get along fine, as long as politics was off the table (and both sides abided by the rule).

    Sorry, that doesn’t work either. Recall the interview he gave after throwing out the first pitch at a Washington Nationals game. The one where he pulled a White Sox cap out of his pocket and donned it just before throwing the pitch. Later in the broadcast booth when asked who his favorite White Sox players were … The-Pretender-in-Chief couldn’t name a single White Sox player. PIC then blabbered something about growing up in Hawaii and the Oakland A’s. I’d wager that he couldn’t pick Joe Rudi, Sal Bando, Campy, or Catfish out of a lineup.

    • #27
    • November 16, 2012 at 12:33 pm
  28. Profile photo of ConservativeWanderer Inactive
    GypsyNuke
    ConservativeWanderer

    I don’t dislike Obama as a person. We don’t have a lot in common, but I expect that, say, at a ball game we’d get along fine, as long as politics was off the table (and both sides abided by the rule).

    Sorry, that doesn’t work either. Recall the interview he gave after throwing out the first pitch at a Washington Nationals game. The one where he pulled a White Sox cap out of his pocket and donned it just before throwing the pitch. Later in the broadcast booth when asked who his favorite White Sox players were … The-Pretender-in-Chief couldn’t name a single White Sox player. PIC then blabbered something about growing up in Hawaii and the Oakland A’s. I’d wager that he couldn’t pick Joe Rudi, Sal Bando, Campy, or Catfish out of a lineup. · in 0 minutes

    Actually, I’ve recently had the experience of going to a ball game with someone that was pretty uninformed about baseball… it was our own late DanaWheels, in fact.

    I had quite the good time educating her about America’s Pastime, and she enjoyed it as well.

    • #28
    • November 16, 2012 at 12:34 pm
  29. Profile photo of Johnny Dubya Member
    Albertina: Obama in press conference: Amb. Rice went on TV Sept.16th at the request of the White House and gave her best understanding of the intelligence that was provided for her. / Obama in debate (assisted by Candy Crowley): I called the Benghazi attack terrorism in the Rose Garden on Sept.12th. / Translation: I sent her out to peddle a false story, so don’t blame her! · 18 hours ago

    Albertina, you have hit the nail smartly on the head.

    Recall how GWB was accused of lying about WMD in Iraq; even though every intelligence agency believed that Hussein had WMD, it was Bush alone who was the liar. (You know, because going to war is always such a political winner.)

    Obama is trying to have his cake and eat it, too. I said it was terrorism on the 12th, he claimed in the debate. Rice’s statements were not lies, but rather based on bad intelligence, he claims now.

    So, the U.N. ambassador peddled a story that the president knew four days earlier to be false, and it was a mere coincidence that the falsities she intoned put forth a narrative that was beneficial to the administration?

    • #29
    • November 16, 2012 at 12:43 pm