Chris Christie Un-Friends John Boehner

 

Oh boy. The Speaker of the House looked bad enough last night after caving on raising taxes without tackling spending. 

Today he has a problem that makes last night’s problem look like a picnic, and the problem’s name is Chris Christie.

According to Christie, it was Boehner and Boehner alone who stopped the Hurricane Sandy relief package from getting to a vote (more than 2 months after the storm).

I know Boehner has taken to cursing, but I suggest he not try that with Christie today.

Also for Peter Robinson: Apropos of your earlier post, Christie tips his hat to Eric Cantor.

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  1. Profile photo of Keith Preston Member

    Peter King has been told that the vote will come Jan. 15. Boehner wants to strip the pork out (put in while focus was on fiscal cliff).

    I’m beginning to have serious doubts about Christie’s bona fides. Looks like he’s in re-election mode now; he’s the press’ new John McCain. Conservatives beware…

    • #1
    • January 3, 2013 at 2:00 am
  2. Profile photo of Frank Soto Contributor
    Tommy De Seno: Oh boy. The Speaker of the House looked bad enough last night after caving on raising taxes without tackling spending. 

    This is silly. Taxes were increasing WITHOUT A VOTE. Republicans were incapable of stopping it. They managed to limit the damage, and disarm Obama for the debt ceiling debate. And we are killing them for it.

    We are tactically inept on this side of the aisle.

    • #2
    • January 3, 2013 at 2:00 am
  3. Profile photo of Thom Williams Inactive

    Christie should just phone up his buddy in the White House. He’ll take care of it for him.

    • #3
    • January 3, 2013 at 2:20 am
  4. Profile photo of jarhead Inactive

    Boehner had better show he still has some bxxxs by stripping out the pork, or he should face an insurrection from the Republican membership. (He probably should anyway because of his support for HR8.) From everything I’ve heard, that bill is loaded with unrelated pork.

    • #4
    • January 3, 2013 at 2:24 am
  5. Profile photo of Duane Oyen Member

    After all his hugging of Barack Obama in the middle of a campaign, I have a hard time taking Christie seriously when he whines about his federal aid package, then pretends to be a “conservative”.

    • #5
    • January 3, 2013 at 2:29 am
  6. Profile photo of Mollie Hemingway Contributor

    I wonder why Chris Christie isn’t mad at all the legislators who inserted irrelevant pork into the bill. It’s weird, though no doubt it’s perfectly acted outrage theater.

    I’m just not the best audience for outrage theater.

    • #6
    • January 3, 2013 at 2:34 am
  7. Profile photo of Mollie Hemingway Contributor

    I should add, I agree that Boehner blew it, but just not for the reasons that the media have decided. I’m so so so tired of all this game playing.

    • #7
    • January 3, 2013 at 2:35 am
  8. Profile photo of Pseudodionysius Member
    Mollie Hemingway, Ed.: I wonder why Chris Christie isn’t mad at all the legislators who inserted irrelevant pork into the bill. It’s weird, though no doubt it’s perfectly acted outrage theater.

    I’m just not the best audience for outrage theater. · 19 minutes ago

    Two words: Cory Booker. Next time Christie appears he needs to wear a mask and call himself Ray Mysterio.

    • #8
    • January 3, 2013 at 2:56 am
  9. Profile photo of Benjamin Glaser Member

    By the way looks like National Review has officially jumped the shark.

    • #9
    • January 3, 2013 at 3:04 am
  10. Profile photo of Joan of Ark La Tex Member
    Pseudodionysius

     Next time Christie appears he needs to wear a mask and call himself Ray Mysterio. · 5 minutes ago

    You might be right especially if he works out and dines frequently with Michelle Obama. 

    • #10
    • January 3, 2013 at 3:04 am
  11. Profile photo of Leslie Watkins Member
    Mollie Hemingway, Ed.: I wonder why Chris Christie isn’t mad at all the legislators who inserted irrelevant pork into the bill. It’s weird, though no doubt it’s perfectly acted outrage theater. · 27 minutes ago

    I’d call it ham acting. For Christie to compare Sandy to Katrina—Congress acted within two weeks because it was the one of the worst natural disasters of the century—is laughable, as if aid packages are all there is to do. You never saw Gov. Blanco call a press conference to vent her spleen (of course, she did lose reelection) Also, remember that in New Orleans we were talking about the poorest of the poor and hundreds of deaths. Along the Jersey shore, not so much. The governor’s outrage over the Speaker’s so-called selfishness is way over the top, however much ridicule Boehner does in fact deserve for the deal we must all suffer under.

    • #11
    • January 3, 2013 at 3:24 am
  12. Profile photo of Pseudodionysius Member

    Who?

    • #12
    • January 3, 2013 at 3:44 am
  13. Profile photo of Edward Smith Inactive

    Que?

    Benjamin Glaser: By the way looks like National Review has officially jumped the shark. · 41 minutes ago
    • #13
    • January 3, 2013 at 3:56 am
  14. Profile photo of RyanM Coolidge
    Pseudodionysius: Who? · 40 minutes ago

    Exactly! I’ve said it before, but it is worth repeating. Hearing Christie bash Republicans because he wasn’t able to get his “relief check” in time sure doesn’t make me like the man any more than I already did. I hope republicans are smart enough to never vote Christie anything more than Governor, and dare I even hope that he goes away altogether? Well, I do. A moderate democrat would be just as good – wait, that’s redundant.

    • #14
    • January 3, 2013 at 4:51 am
  15. Profile photo of Pseudodionysius Member

    I was going to type:

    “Chris Christie, trim the fat.” and then thought that might be perceived as mean.

    • #15
    • January 3, 2013 at 6:00 am
  16. Profile photo of Pseudodionysius Member

    I’m not sure whether he’s a Soprano or a Wise Guy.

    • #16
    • January 3, 2013 at 6:06 am
  17. Profile photo of Tommy De Seno Contributor
    Tommy De Seno Post author
    Mollie Hemingway, Ed.: I wonder why Chris Christie isn’t mad at all the legislators who inserted irrelevant pork into the bill. It’s weird, though no doubt it’s perfectly acted outrage theater.

    I’m just not the best audience for outrage theater. · 15 hours ago

    Agreed, but was this really the bill to use to take a stand on that by Boehner? This bill?

    What a terrible political miscalculation by him.

    • #17
    • January 3, 2013 at 6:36 am
  18. Profile photo of Mollie Hemingway Contributor
    Tommy De Seno
    Mollie Hemingway, Ed.: I wonder why Chris Christie isn’t mad at all the legislators who inserted irrelevant pork into the bill. It’s weird, though no doubt it’s perfectly acted outrage theater.

    I’m just not the best audience for outrage theater. · 15 hours ago

    Agreed, but was this really the bill to use to take a stand on that by Boehner? This bill?

    What a terrible political miscalculation by him. · 41 minutes ago

    It’s par for the course with this guy. He’s not the worst leader the GOP could have but man is he disappointing.

    • #18
    • January 3, 2013 at 7:19 am
  19. Profile photo of Tommy De Seno Contributor
    Tommy De Seno Post author
    Mollie Hemingway, Ed.
    Tommy De Seno
    Mollie Hemingway, Ed.: I wonder why Chris Christie isn’t mad at all the legislators who inserted irrelevant pork into the bill. It’s weird, though no doubt it’s perfectly acted outrage theater.

    I’m just not the best audience for outrage theater. · 15 hours ago

    Agreed, but was this really the bill to use to take a stand on that by Boehner? This bill?

    What a terrible political miscalculation by him. · 41 minutes ago

    It’s par for the course with this guy. He’s not the worst leader the GOP could have but man is he disappointing. · 6 minutes ago

    Agree completely. I like him as a person and could vote for him as my representative, but leadership just seems to be missing from his toolbox these days.

    • #19
    • January 3, 2013 at 7:28 am
  20. Profile photo of James Of England Moderator
    Mollie Hemingway, Ed.
    Tommy De Seno
    Mollie Hemingway, Ed.: I wonder why Chris Christie isn’t mad at all the legislators who inserted irrelevant pork into the bill. It’s weird, though no doubt it’s perfectly acted outrage theater.

    I’m just not the best audience for outrage theater. · 15 hours ago

    Agreed, but was this really the bill to use to take a stand on that by Boehner? This bill?

    What a terrible political miscalculation by him. · 41 minutes ago

    It’s par for the course with this guy. He’s not the worst leader the GOP could have but man is he disappointing. · 12 minutes ago

    Mollie, do you agree with Christie here? Boehner shouldn’t have been willing to wait for a decent bill to be worked out rather than rushing the pork through?

    I must admit to surprise.

    • #20
    • January 3, 2013 at 7:35 am
  21. Profile photo of Ronaldus Maximus Inactive
    Tommy De Seno
    Mollie Hemingway, Ed.
    Tommy De Seno

    Agreed, but was this really the bill to use to take a stand on that by Boehner? This bill?

    What a terrible political miscalculation by him. · 41 minutes ago

    It’s par for the course with this guy. He’s not the worst leader the GOP could have but man is he disappointing. · 6 minutes ago

    Agree completely. I like him as a person and could vote for him as my representative, but leadership just seems to be missing from his toolbox these days. · 37 minutes ago

    Folks, this bill is $60 billion!! I know that seems a drop in the bucket with trillion dollar deficits but that’s how we got to an era of trillion $ deficits.

    Andy, only a tiny fraction of the bill is actually spent in 2013. From Reuters:

    The Congressional Budget Office has estimated about $8.97 billion of the Senate bill would be spent in 2013, with another $12.66 billion spent in 2014 and $11.59 billion spent in 2015.

    Let’s not bash Boehner on this one. It’s a bad bill and Boehner was right to pull it.

    • #21
    • January 3, 2013 at 8:27 am
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    Tommy De Seno Post author
    Ronaldus Maximus

    Folks, this bill is $60 billion!! I know that seems a drop in the bucket with trillion dollar deficits but that’s how we got to an era of trillion $ deficits.

    Andy, only a tiny fraction of the bill is actually spent in 2013. From Reuters:

    The Congressional Budget Office has estimated about $8.97 billion of the Senate bill would be spent in 2013, with another $12.66 billion spent in 2014 and $11.59 billion spent in 2015.

    Let’s not bash Boehner on this one. It’s a bad bill and Boehner was right to pull it. · 30 minutes ago

    Edited 19 minutes ago

    Is it just the number that’s the problem? I understand the damage estimate exceeded $70 Billion.

    • #22
    • January 3, 2013 at 9:06 am
  23. Profile photo of James Of England Moderator
    Ryan M
    Pseudodionysius: Who? · 40 minutes ago

    Exactly! I’ve said it before, but it is worth repeating. Hearing Christie bash Republicans because he wasn’t able to get his “relief check” in time sure doesn’t make me like the man any more than I already did. I hope republicans are smart enough to never vote Christie anything more than Governor, and dare I even hope that he goes away altogether? Well, I do. A moderate democrat would be just as good – wait, that’s redundant. · 4 hours ago

    Yeah. Complaining about not getting pork laden special funding out to NJ before stripping the worst excesses is disgusting. Using the occasion to support the Democrats’ chief 2014 campaign theme is worse. A Christie win might be better for New Jersey and for Newark, but Booker would be better for the country. I don’t think I’ve felt that way about a competitive race since Liz Dole left NC in 2008.

    • #23
    • January 3, 2013 at 9:30 am
  24. Profile photo of Ronaldus Maximus Inactive

    Someone needs to ask Gov. Christie to explain how all of this is critical to the people of NJ:

    •$125 million for the Department of Agriculture’s Emergency Watershed Protection program, which helps restore watersheds damaged by wildfires and drought.

    •$20 million for a nationwide Water Resources Priorities Study.

    •$15 million for NASA facilities, though NASA itself has called its damage from the hurricane ‘minimal.’

    •$50 million in subsidies for tree planting on private properties.

    •$336 million for taxpayer-supported AMTRAK without any detailed plan for how the money will be spent.

    •$5.3 billion for the Army Corps of Engineers – more than the Corps’ annual budget – with no statement of priorities about how to spend the money.

    •$12.9 billion for future disaster mitigation activities and studies, without identifying a single way to pay for it.

    Then again, he’s made it clear he answers to no one, so that’s pointless. One can only imagine his boorishness as he derides the reporter who deign question more wasted tax dollars being poured down the AMTRAK black hole. I agree with others that Booker seems to be a better choice for New Jersey than Governor Snooki, er, Christie.

    • #24
    • January 3, 2013 at 11:06 am
  25. Profile photo of Ronaldus Maximus Inactive
    Tommy De Seno

    I don’t recall making an argument or counter-argument in the post or the thread. 

    I do know that some of the money is not for repair but to take measure to guard against a later storm. · 15 minutes ago

    Tommy De Seno

    Mollie Hemingway, Ed.: I wonder why Chris Christie isn’t mad at all the legislators who inserted irrelevant pork into the bill. It’s weird, though no doubt it’s perfectly acted outrage theater.

    I’m just not the best audience for outrage theater. · 15 hours ago

    Agreed, but was this really the bill to use to take a stand on that by Boehner? This bill?

    What a terrible political miscalculation by him.

    Seems like saying Boehner made a “terrible political miscalculation” is an argument. I don’t think it is a miscalculation.

    • #25
    • January 4, 2013 at 1:29 am
  26. Profile photo of Ronaldus Maximus Inactive

    From the Heritage Foundation:

    The estimate of insured losses from Sandy comes in around $20 billion—but the total aid package proposed is three times that amount. Roughly $28 billion of the request is marked forfuture disaster-mitigation projects.

    The bill includes funding for Head Start, the federal day care program. As Heritage’s Lindsey Burke, the Will Skillman fellow in education policy, explains, some Head Start centers may need repairs from hurricane damage, but handing the program $100 million—as the Sandy aid package would—is a large expenditure that deserves more scrutiny.

    The House needs to retool this bill.

    HOWEVER, if they do not then shame on the GOP and Boehner, and yes, Tommy you are a thousand times correct it was and is a terrible political miscalculation!

    It won’t change the fact that Gov Christie is a blowhard though.

    • #26
    • January 4, 2013 at 1:37 am
  27. Profile photo of Tommy De Seno Contributor
    Tommy De Seno Post author
    Ronaldus Maximus
    Tommy De Seno

    I don’t recall making an argument or counter-argument in the post or the thread. 

    I do know that some of the money is not for repair but to take measure to guard against a later storm. · 15 minutes ago

    Tommy De Seno

    Mollie Hemingway, Ed.: I wonder why Chris Christie isn’t mad at all the legislators who inserted irrelevant pork into the bill. It’s weird, though no doubt it’s perfectly acted outrage theater.

    I’m just not the best audience for outrage theater. · 15 hours ago

    Agreed, but was this really the bill to use to take a stand on that by Boehner? This bill?

    What a terrible political miscalculation by him.

    Seems like saying Boehner made a “terrible political miscalculation” is an argument. I don’t think it is a miscalculation. · 4 hours ago

    The post is about Christie criticizing Boehner. I did’t offer an argument on the merit or not of doing that.

    That’s what I though you were referring to.

    As to my saying that Bohner made a political miscalculation – I stand by it. He got pummeled for it.

    • #27
    • January 4, 2013 at 6:04 am
  28. Profile photo of Ronaldus Maximus Inactive
    Tommy De Seno

    Is it just the number that’s the problem? I understand the damage estimate exceeded $70 Billion. · 2 hours ago

    If your number is correct, that it’s $70B in damage, then all the more reason this is a bad bill!!! How does roughly $33B in spending through 2015 begin to address $70B in damage???? Your counter-agrument only magnifies that this bill is a sad hash which needs to be re-tinkered.

    It typifies the typical thoughtless approach that wastes money and in the end doesn’t solve the problem it is supposed to address.

    Gov. Christie’s response further magnifies that he’s a blowhard and a boor.

    The bill is bad government AND bad politics for the GOP.

    • #28
    • January 4, 2013 at 12:23 pm
  29. Profile photo of Tommy De Seno Contributor
    Tommy De Seno Post author
    Ronaldus Maximus
    Tommy De Seno

    Is it just the number that’s the problem? I understand the damage estimate exceeded $70 Billion. · 2 hours ago

    If your number is correct, that it’s $70B in damage, then all the more reason this is a bad bill!!! How does roughly $33B in spending through 2015 begin to address $70B in damage???? Your counter-agrument only magnifies that this bill is a sad hash which needs to be re-tinkered.

    It typifies the typical thoughtless approach that wastes money and in the end doesn’t solve the problem it is supposed to address.

    Gov. Christie’s response further magnifies that he’s a blowhard and a boor.

    The bill is bad government AND bad politics for the GOP. · 21 minutes ago

    I don’t recall making an argument or counter-argument in the post or the thread. 

    I do know that some of the money is not for repair but to take measure to guard against a later storm.

    • #29
    • January 4, 2013 at 12:46 pm