Child Shot in Chicago. Media Yawns.

 

This story has been all over Drudge, but it’s worth talking about here. From NBCChicago.com:

A 15-year-old majorette who performed at some of President Barack Obama’s recent inauguration festivities has been shot to death in Chicago. Police say Hadiya Pendleton died after she was shot in the back while hanging out with a group of teens in Vivian Gordon Harsh Park about 2:30 p.m.

Middle of the day. Young girl. Gun violence. Connect the dots:

Police said Pendleton was not a gang member and was most likely not the shooter’s intended target. But most of the teens with her, who also fled the scene, are believed to be gang members, police said.

Chicago has strict gun-control laws. Chicago is run — and has been run — by powerful Democrats. Chicago is experiencing a severe crime wave.

Which nobody wants to talk about.

Which is why our side should be talking about it.

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  1. Profile photo of smp16 Inactive

    Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.

    • #1
    • January 30, 2013 at 10:49 am
  2. Profile photo of wmartin Inactive

    Chicago also has lots of something else….um, a certain demographic group that commits virtually all of these crimes.

    • #2
    • January 30, 2013 at 10:54 am
  3. Profile photo of Devereaux Inactive

    One needs to also note that Chicago has laws that increase the penalty for committing a crime with a weapon – but it’s rarely enforced.

    AND it has one of THE lowest clearance rates for homicide in the nation.

    AND it’s been run by democrats for 50+ years.

    • #3
    • January 30, 2013 at 11:00 am
  4. Profile photo of Fake John/Jane Galt Thatcher

    “Our side”, brings this type of stuff up all the time, mostly the MSM and the Left ignore it and us when we do. When they do deign to comment on this type of event, it is only to state that this is just another example on how current gun laws are too lax and too spotty and that ALL guns need to be taken away from ALL people EVERYWHERE. As long as guns exist, the Left’s response to any gun violence will be that guns should only be in the hands of the government. No other point of view is acceptable to them. 

    • #4
    • January 30, 2013 at 11:05 am
  5. Profile photo of Douglas Member

    Of course, it’s all the GOP’s fault. If they’d just allow the Democrats to ban guns, surely paradise on Earth would follow.

    • #5
    • January 30, 2013 at 11:16 am
  6. Profile photo of Paul A. Rahe Contributor
    wmartin: Chicago also has lots of something else….um, a certain demographic group that commits virtually all of these crimes. · 32 minutes ago

    There is another side to this. Under the younger Richard Daley, the police were reined in — lest they come across the machine’s machinations — and very little effort was put into policing African-American neighborhoods. There has been a very considerable Africa-American emigration out of Chicago back to the South in search of law and order.

    • #6
    • January 30, 2013 at 11:28 am
  7. Profile photo of Freesmith Member

    Here’s another subject not to talk about: Detroit moved closer today to municipal bankruptcy.

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/100414480 

    It too is a Democrat Party-ruled city.

    It is also 83% black.

    Well, Rob, how much time was spent at the NRI Summit attacking Democrats about the civic calamity known as Detroit?

    Afraid of being called “racist?”

    • #8
    • January 30, 2013 at 11:32 am
  8. Profile photo of Astonishing Inactive
    wmartin: Chicago also has lots of something else….um, a certain demographic group that commits virtually all of these crimes.

    What’s your point?

    Are you suggesting blacks are criminal by nature? Don’t be coy. Have the guts to . . . um . . . come right out and say what you mean.

    • #9
    • January 30, 2013 at 11:36 am
  9. Profile photo of M.D. Wenzel Member

    The CPD are in a tough position. If they crack down on the gang members who commit these crimes the Jesse Jacksons of the world will accuse them of targeting young black males. If they don’t they are called racists who do not care about crime in black neighboorhoods

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    • January 30, 2013 at 11:39 am
  10. Profile photo of Tommy De Seno Contributor

    What law would have stopped this killing? It can’t be gun control Chicago already has that.

    I’d say religion, values, compassion and respect for life is the answer, but who’d listen?

    • #11
    • January 30, 2013 at 11:51 am
  11. Profile photo of Stan Sneed Inactive

    At some point conservatives like Rob Long and Mollie Hemingway and Peter Robinson (or their children?) are going to have to sacrifice for the good of the nation and go to work for CBS, NBC, etc. and start playing the “news” thing straight. If Occupy Wall St. types never hear the truth, they will never understand the extent of our problems.

    • #12
    • January 30, 2013 at 11:52 am
  12. Profile photo of Leslie Watkins Member

    What you say is, the only job that Barack Obama ever had before becoming a politician was as an activist in Chicago, work that obviously had no lasting positive benefits. Obama supporters are usually taken aback when you tell them that, on average, a half dozen young people are killed in Chicago every week despite the stringent gun laws and years of social activism by Obama and Ayers and Dohrn and their ilk.

    Tommy De Seno: What law would have stopped this killing? It can’t be gun control Chicago already has that.

    I’d say religion, values, compassion and respect for life is the answer, but who’d listen? · 1 hour ago

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    • January 31, 2013 at 1:00 am
  13. Profile photo of Johnny Dubya Member

    The violence perpetrated in America today by Japanese immigrants–kamikaze attacks, torturing those whom they take prisoner–can similarly be explained. It is a legacy of their militaristic WWII-era regime. I wonder why it goes unreported by the media?

    [sarcasm/off]

    After a certain point, it becomes absurd to ascribe statistical facts pertaining to certain groups’ behavior to “legacy” factors. It is difficult to see how behavior can be affected by factors many generations removed from the present one. On the other hand, one can easily see how behavior has been affected by the much more recent liberal policy legacies of welfare and public housing.

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    • January 31, 2013 at 1:03 am
  14. Profile photo of wmartin Inactive
    Astonishing
    wmartin: Chicago also has lots of something else….um, a certain demographic group that commits virtually all of these crimes.

    What’s your point?

    Are you suggesting blacks are criminal by nature? Don’t be coy. Have the guts to . . . um . . . come right out and say what you mean. · 1 hour ago

    The stats on average IQ, and the correlation of IQ with aggressiveness and low future-time orientation, are well known.

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    • January 31, 2013 at 1:04 am
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    vb

    OMT, the radical chiceria has supported radical groups like the Panthers, who have been telling kids for decades that learning to read was acting white. When people like Bill Cosby try to take on the dysfunctional culture, very few blacks support him. And when whites try to point out that people like Charlie Rangel are race baiters, we are called racists.

    I don’t think this goes back to slavery so much as the late 60s.

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    • January 31, 2013 at 1:25 am
  16. Profile photo of Matt Travis Inactive

    Not a single mention of it in the Washington Post. The most diabolical power the media has is the power to ignore…

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    • January 31, 2013 at 1:46 am
  17. Profile photo of Astonishing Inactive
    wmartin
    Astonishing
    wmartin: Chicago also has lots of something else….um, a certain demographic group that commits virtually all of these crimes.

    What’s your point?

    Are you suggesting blacks are criminal by nature? Don’t be coy. Have the guts to . . . um . . . come right out and say what you mean.

    The stats on average IQ, and the correlation of IQ with aggressiveness and low future-time orientation, are well known.

    Well known by whom? Why hide behinid the passive voice? Have you not the courage to state your conclusions explicitly? Is there a similarly well-known correlation between cowardice and low IQ in white people?

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    • January 31, 2013 at 2:18 am
  18. Profile photo of wmartin Inactive
    Astonishing
    wmartin
    Astonishing
    wmartin: Chicago also has lots of something else….um, a certain demographic group that commits virtually all of these crimes.

    What’s your point?

    Are you suggesting blacks are criminal by nature? Don’t be coy. Have the guts to . . . um . . . come right out and say what you mean.

    The stats on average IQ, and the correlation of IQ with aggressiveness and low future-time orientation, are well known.

    Well known by whom? Why hide behinid the passive voice? Have you not the courage to state your conclusions explicitly? Is there a similarly well-known correlation between cowardice and low IQ in white people? · 10 minutes ago

    Edited 9 minutes ago

    Do you dispute the data on African-American IQ? If so, give your reasons. And if not, your entire argument is nothing but “point and sputter.”

    Quite obviously, a demographic group with an average IQ of only 85 is going to be more crime-ridden than one with an average IQ two standard deviations higher.

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    • January 31, 2013 at 2:32 am
  19. Profile photo of Astonishing Inactive
    vb: OMT, the radical chiceria has supported radical groups like the Panthers, who have been telling kids for decades that learning to read was acting white. When people like Bill Cosby try to take on the dysfunctional culture, very few blacks support him. And when whites try to point out that people like Charlie Rangel are race baiters, we are called racists.

    I don’t think this goes back to slavery so much as the late 60s.

    It would be difficult to overstate the harm of the Great Society welfare state to blacks, but the history of race relations in America did not begin in the late 1960.

    To suggest that slavery has had little effect on the present circumstances of blacks in America is simply ludicrous. To deny that simple historical fact precludes credibility about issues affecting blacks, just as much as denying the holocaust precludes credibility on issues affecting Jews. However, one can acknowledge that historical fact without accepting it as a justification for crime by young inner city black males, reparations, affirmative action, quotas, etc.

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    • January 31, 2013 at 2:35 am
  20. Profile photo of Astonishing Inactive
    wmartin . . . Do you dispute the data on African-American IQ? If so, give your reasons. And if not, your entire argument is nothing but “point and sputter.”

    Quite obviously, a demographic group with an average IQ of only 85 is going to be more crime-ridden than one with an average IQ two standard deviations higher. ·

    Yes, I dispute such “data” because it is irrelevant nonsense. I also dispute your assertion that “obviously” there is a causal arrow pointing from lower IQ to greater criminality.

    Why are you afraid to be explicit? Do you or do you not assert that blacks are intellectually inferior to whites and, because of inferior intellect, are more likely to commit crime? An unwillingness to answer that question proves low IQ causes cowardice in certain white people.

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    • January 31, 2013 at 2:49 am
  21. Profile photo of wmartin Inactive
    Astonishing
    wmartin . . . Do you dispute the data on African-American IQ? If so, give your reasons. And if not, your entire argument is nothing but “point and sputter.”

    Quite obviously, a demographic group with an average IQ of only 85 is going to be more crime-ridden than one with an average IQ two standard deviations higher. ·

    Yes, I dispute such “data” because it is irrelevant nonsense. I also dispute your assertion that “obviously” there is a causal arrow pointing from lower IQ to greater criminality.

    Why are you afraid to be explicit? Do you or do you not assert that blacks are intellectually inferior to whites and, because of inferior intellect, are more likely to commit crime? An unwillingness to answer that question proves low IQ causes cowardice in certain white people. · 3 minutes ago

    I “assert” nothing. IQ data, and its relevance to the topic under discussion, is readily available. It is not my job to do your googling for you.

    Oh, and yes, blacks commit much more crime than other groups (hispanics, whites, asians, ashkenazi jews) because they have lower average IQ than those groups.

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    • January 31, 2013 at 3:05 am
  22. Profile photo of Cunctator Inactive

    OK guys, out behind the bike racks! This has just turned into a back and forth between you too. There are ways you could continue this message privately should you choose. Just saying . . . . . 🙂

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    • January 31, 2013 at 3:07 am
  23. Profile photo of Astonishing Inactive
    Erik Larsen: OK guys, out behind the bike racks! This has just turned into a back and forth between you too. There are ways you could continue this message privately should you choose. Just saying . . . . . 

    I understand. It’s not a pleasant conversation, and I hope our back and forth won’t stop others from making comments more germane. However, it’s important to have wmartin be explicit when he comments on subjects such as this or immigration so others can see clearly with whom they associate, even online. A handful of racists can do immeasureable harm to conservatives. (Of course, whether or not someone is a racist does not, in itself, affect the validity of his opinions.)

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    • January 31, 2013 at 3:27 am
  24. Profile photo of Cunctator Inactive

    Understand Astonishing. This is a difficult topic, and sometimes nuances are kind of difficult to express in a written fashion. 🙂

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    • January 31, 2013 at 3:35 am
  25. Profile photo of Astonishing Inactive
    Barkha Herman: Black girl in Chicago – not the same as 20 white kids in Connecticut :-D.

    Racism, I say! (sarcasm)

    I agree, but without the sarcasm.

    The media’s unwillingness to take on this slaughter is a perfect example of the not-so-soft bigotry of low expectations.

    Why do Obama and Rahm not demand more and produce more from and for their very own city?

    This is more than simple failure. Chicago thug politicans, Obama and Rahm as much as any, live and grow on the blood of thousands of black children. Shameful.

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    • January 31, 2013 at 3:53 am
  26. Profile photo of Paul J. Croeber Member

    Crime is most prevalent where the tools are blamed rather than the perpetrator. Calls for responsible gun ownership are calls for responsible people. One is not made so by disarming.

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    • January 31, 2013 at 4:18 am
  27. Profile photo of wmartin Inactive
    Astonishing

    I understand. It’s not a pleasant conversation, and I hope our back and forth won’t stop others from making comments more germane. However, it’s important to have wmartin be explicit when he comments on subjects such as this or immigration so others can see clearly with whom they associate, even online. A handful of racists can do immeasureable harm to conservatives. (Of course, whether or not someone is a racist does not, in itself, affect the validity of his opinions.) · 1 hour ago

    I agree that it is an unpleasant conversation. The facts are often unpleasant, but eventually they must be faced. The only thing that matters is whether the data (IQ stats, and their relationship to criminality and social dysfunction) is true or not. Your feelings about that data do not matter.

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    • January 31, 2013 at 5:09 am
  28. Profile photo of Margaret Sarah Inactive

    So teenagers turn to gang violence because they are stupid? I think there are other factors.

    Chicago is a sanctuary city. We have the big drug gangs from Central America, and the big guys don’t sell drugs on the street themselves. They pass them through to teen gangs, Latino and black. They also pass through guns. The teen gangs have an interest in terrorizing the neighborhood so no one will report them.

    Chicago has lots of laws against illegal guns, but they can’t be enforced because Chicago also has lots of restrictions on what police can do. No stop and frisk, limited searches. No one is actually arrested and charged for illegally carrying a gun.

    Finally, Chicago has a shortage of police on the streets because we are spending lots of money on bike lanes on major streets, self-cleaning toilets at the airport, etc.

     

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    • January 31, 2013 at 7:07 am
  29. Profile photo of Adriana Harris Member

    Black on black violence doesn’t get much attention, especially in Democrat run cities.

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    • January 31, 2013 at 7:34 am
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