Big Bird, Binders, Bayonets

 

Obama blew the chance tonight to be the candidate who inspired a nation in 2008. 

His too-pat attack lines fell hideously flat, and his weird laser stare into Romney’s cranium made for an odd split screen image the entire night. Once again, Obama was playing for points with the MSNBC demo and trying to score what I call “squee points” with his base.

Romney was playing for big, Presidential, knowledgeable. He didn’t let Obama rattle his cage, and didn’t drop the ball. It was another night where Obama needed a knockout punch, but after a few dozen wild, missed haymakers, he didn’t get there.

Not a particularly edifying or informative exercise, but Romney walked away from it with a performance that won’t alter the terrain…and he didn’t need one. Obama needed a big kill, and missed the mark.

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  1. Profile photo of Nick Stuart Thatcher

    Isn’t an aircraft carrier a ship?

    • #1
    • October 23, 2012 at 3:18 am
  2. Profile photo of ConservativeWanderer Inactive
    Richard Fulmer
    Mark Wilson: Did you say bayonets? If I may be so tacky as to copy my own comments from a different thread to this one, where they are more relevant:

    Ships? Ships are going obsolete, just like horse and bayonets. We’re replacing ships with aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines.

    And:

    Today’s navy can move beyond ships as its primary means of waging war, just like yesterday’s navy was able to do away with horses and bayonets as its primary means of waging war.

     Those aircraft carrier thingies? You know, those big boats that Obama says we have nowadays that planes land on? Don’t they go around with task forces? You know, big flotillas of smaller ships that serve as screeners, anti-aircraft platforms, missile platforms, patrol boats, mine sweepers, sub-chasers, and supply ships? · 5 hours ago

    But… but… but… he’s the smartest President EVAR! He can’t possibly be wrong!

    • #2
    • October 23, 2012 at 5:22 am
  3. Profile photo of liberal jim Inactive

    Romney won by moving away form GWB’s domestic and foreign policy positions. His positions boiled down to, ” I am not going to start any wars like that idiot Bush did and lets not forget he was the first president to try to bail out the auto industry and I was opposed to his idea, just like I was opposed to yours.”

     Romney needed to convince voters of three things during this campaign, Obama would not do any better in a second term, Romney was qualified and that he was not another GWB. He managed to do this in the three debates and should win going away.

    • #3
    • October 23, 2012 at 5:59 am
  4. Profile photo of Charles Allen Member

    Saw this on Twitter:

    @ByronTau: Assignment for the Internet: Big Bird riding a horse during a bayonet charge, carrying a binder. GO!

    Paging EJHill….

    • #4
    • October 23, 2012 at 8:49 am
  5. Profile photo of David Williamson Member

    It’s too bad the Marines protecting our Ambassador in Benghazi didn’t have their bayonets to hand. Oh, wait – there were no Marines? 

    • #5
    • October 23, 2012 at 9:04 am
  6. Profile photo of Mister D Member

    Obama seemed to have a better grasp on, or better ability to explain, his policies. That’s to be expected. He has been president for 4 years, and he knows what has gone on behind the scenes in a way Romney cannot. But Romney did as well as he could, remained likable, seemed competent and should not scare away swing voters. Foreign policy is not where most people will be voting (though I know some lefties who won’t vote O for the drone issue). The only real gaffe on Romney’s part was calling out the president for not putting out a plan midway through the bebate. That charge would have been more effective at the end, after Obama would have wasted 90 minutes on attack and would have no chance to respond.

    • #6
    • October 23, 2012 at 9:05 am
  7. Profile photo of Mark Wilson Member

    Did you say bayonets? If I may be so tacky as to copy my own comments from a different thread to this one, where they are more relevant:

    Ships? Ships are going obsolete, just like horse and bayonets. We’re replacing ships with aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines.

    And:

    Today’s navy can move beyond ships as its primary means of waging war, just like yesterday’s navy was able to do away with horses and bayonets as its primary means of waging war.

    • #7
    • October 23, 2012 at 9:18 am
  8. Profile photo of EJHill Member

    Charles Allen – Your Facebook Meme is ready on the Member’s Page!

    • #8
    • October 23, 2012 at 9:22 am
  9. Profile photo of Stuart Creque Member

    I thought that Romney used a particular line brilliantly and more than once: “Attacking me is not an agenda” for advancing America’s interests in the world.

    It was brilliant because it planted the idea in the viewer’s mind that every attack Obama launched was an un-Presidential waste of time, and indeed an effort to duck answering the question, “What would YOU do in a second term, Mr. President?”

    • #9
    • October 23, 2012 at 9:29 am
  10. Profile photo of CoolHand Inactive
    Rick Wilson: trying to score what I call “squee points”

    You sir, have just won the internet.

    The entire thing.

    Everyone else can go home now, it’s all over.

    • #10
    • October 23, 2012 at 9:47 am
  11. Profile photo of James Of England Moderator
    Stuart Creque: I thought that Romney used a particular line brilliantly and more than once: “Attacking me is not an agenda” for advancing America’s interests in the world.

    It was brilliant because it planted the idea in the viewer’s mind that every attack Obama launched was an un-Presidential waste of time, and indeed an effort to duck answering the question, “What would YOU do in a second term, Mr. President?” · 6 minutes ago

    Agreed.

    Still, Mitt’s done his bit, now. There won’t be another chance for him to turn this around before election day.

    Now, it’s our turn. Mitt’s brought the result to a razor edge, with WI, CO, VA, OH, FL, PA, OR, NH, IA, and NV within the margin of error. He’s delivered us the opportunity to win this election for America by calling, donating, fundraising, election monitoring, doorstepping (if in a swing state) and generally giving it all we’ve got. Don’t lets let America down.

    • #11
    • October 23, 2012 at 9:50 am
  12. Profile photo of Cunctator Inactive

    Tomorrow, Romney should mount a horse, fix a bayonet, and lance a giant Big Bird puppet with a binder as strapped to its head

    • #12
    • October 23, 2012 at 9:52 am
  13. Profile photo of Cunctator Inactive

    Oops, should have read Charles Hill’s post. My bad!

    • #13
    • October 23, 2012 at 9:52 am
  14. Profile photo of Neolibertarian Inactive

    James Of England:

    Now, it’s our turn. Mitt’s brought the result to a razor edge, with WI, CO, VA, OH, FL, PA, OR, NH, IA, and NV within the margin of error. He’s delivered us the opportunity to win this election for America by calling, donating, fundraising, election monitoring, doorstepping (if in a swing state) and generally giving it all we’ve got. Don’t lets let America down.

    Agreed.

    Then, after the election and after Romney’s inauguration in January, our REAL work begins.

    • #14
    • October 23, 2012 at 9:58 am
  15. Profile photo of Richard Fulmer Member
    Mark Wilson: Did you say bayonets? If I may be so tacky as to copy my own comments from a different thread to this one, where they are more relevant:

    Ships? Ships are going obsolete, just like horse and bayonets. We’re replacing ships with aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines.

    And:

    Today’s navy can move beyond ships as its primary means of waging war, just like yesterday’s navy was able to do away with horses and bayonets as its primary means of waging war.

     Those aircraft carrier thingies? You know, those big boats that Obama says we have nowadays that planes land on? Don’t they go around with task forces? You know, big flotillas of smaller ships that serve as screeners, anti-aircraft platforms, missile platforms, patrol boats, mine sweepers, sub-chasers, and supply ships?

    • #15
    • October 23, 2012 at 11:52 am
  16. Profile photo of Karen Member

    Can we please hammer Obama about how stupid he looked talking about the military!? You’d think after 4 years as CinC, he’d have a clue. A serious leader would have to know terminology and tactics just to converse with senior military leadership. His ignorance was on full display. I predict he lost Virginia over this.

    • #16
    • October 23, 2012 at 12:05 pm
  17. Profile photo of Rick Wilson Contributor
    Rick Wilson Post author

    hehe thanks

    CoolHand
    Rick Wilson: trying to score what I call “squee points”

    You sir, have just won the internet.

    The entire thing.

    Everyone else can go home now, it’s all over. · 15 hours ago

    • #17
    • October 24, 2012 at 1:01 am
  18. Profile photo of Joe Katzman Inactive
    Nick Stuart: Isn’t an aircraft carrier a ship? · 10 hours ago

    No, it’s actually a boat. They’re nuclear, hence no funnel for exhaust. Hence a boat among Navy types. Submarines are also boats.

    • #18
    • October 24, 2012 at 1:32 am
  19. Profile photo of James Of England Moderator
    liberal jim: Romney won by moving away form GWB’s domestic and foreign policy positions. His positions boiled down to, ” I am not going to start any wars like that idiot Bush did and lets not forget he was the first president to try to bail out the auto industry and I was opposed to his idea, just like I was opposed to yours.”

     Romney needed to convince voters of three things during this campaign, Obama would not do any better in a second term, Romney was qualified and that he was not another GWB. He managed to do this in the three debates and should win going away. · 10 hours ago

    He repeatedly pointed out that we should be ready to fight wars. He wasn’t in favor of specific military opportunities (and hopefully won’t have any arise), but I never got the impression that he was saying that another 9/11 wouldn’t be followed by another Afghanistan. He never walked back his support for the Iraq and Afghan wars.

    • #19
    • October 24, 2012 at 4:47 am