Freedom from Fear

 

“Freedom from Fear” was one of Franklin Roosevelt’s “Four Freedoms.” This, and the other three: Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Worship and Freedom from Want, was FDR’s way to redefine American rights from the negative, i.e., the restraints that are put on the government, to the positive, meaning things that the government was required to provide to you.

If anything, the last eighteen months have proven is that the government sees no upside in a population free from fear. Along with their allies in the media, our government (and governments all around the world) have been stoking fear and creating a populace more desperate for safety than liberty.

On June 14th, I received a positive result on a COVID test. And because one doesn’t know what to believe anymore, I did experience some trepidation. I called my friend the doctor and he assured me that the odds were overwhelmingly in my favor, gave me and the wife a couple of tips, and told me to calm down. The wife also tested positive and we ended up in isolation in the bedroom for ten straight days together. While I hacked and coughed, ran a temperature, and battled hives, she remained asymptomatic the entire time. Let me go on the record here and now as saying that she’s a bonafide Saint.

The virus did its thing and did it quickly. The loss of taste and smell lasted a mere 72 hours. The low-grade fever came and went in 24. The hives and diarrhea came and went in half a day. By the end of isolation, the chronic cough subsided as well. All that remained was the fatigue, something I hear is the last thing most people shake off. (You may have noticed a slack in my production around here. Sorry.)

The absolute worst part of it was the fear. Listening to the media and the government one could easily be convinced that Death had knocked on the door and that the biohazard team from the funeral home was camping out on the front lawn. But it seems they were never called and the Grim Reaper sent his regrets and promised to get back with me much later.

In my follow-up exam with my internist, she was insistent that I still get the experimental jab. Still undecided on that as I am now a COVID Hero™ with antibodies surging through my veins. Having survived the Plague of the Century how far can I push my luck? It’s not like they’ve lied to me before, right?

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  1. Jimmy Carter Member
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    “I’m from the CDC and I’m here to jab You.”

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  2. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    Do not get vaccinated. You now have more than sufficient antibodies to protect you from the virus for the rest of your life. 

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  3. Percival Thatcher
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    It should have been “Freedom from Fear of the Government.”

    They can get on that any time now.

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  4. Randy Webster Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    It should have been “Freedom from Fear of the Government.”

    They can get on that any time now.

    But they won’t.

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  5. Percival Thatcher
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    It should have been “Freedom from Fear of the Government.”

    They can get on that any time now.

    But they won’t.

    Then they need to be afraid of us.

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  6. The Reticulator Member
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    EJHill: In my follow up exam with my internist she was insistent that I still get the experimental jab.

    If she pointed you to the latest research in support of this recommendation maybe you could share those references with us. 

    I wouldn’t mind getting more up to date on it. 

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  7. EJHill Podcaster
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    The Reticulator: If she pointed you to the latest research in support of this recommendation maybe you could share those references with us.

    Her main point is that we seem to know more about the coverage length of the vax than we do of the natural post-covid immunity. My main point is that we don’t know nothin’ about the longterm effects of the vax, either.

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  8. Phil Turmel Coolidge
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    EJHill (View Comment):
    My main point is that we don’t know nothin’ about the longterm effects of the vax, either.

    This.

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  9. The Reticulator Member
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    EJHill (View Comment):
    Her main point is that we seem to know more about the coverage length of the vax than we do of the natural post-covid immunity.

    I suppose that could be true, but it’s too bad because the natural immunity has been around for longer than the vax, so there should have been time to do longer-term studies of it. Maybe it’s harder to get funding, or something.

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  10. Randy Webster Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):
    Her main point is that we seem to know more about the coverage length of the vax than we do of the natural post-covid immunity.

    I suppose that could be true, but it’s too bad because the natural immunity has been around for longer than the vax, so there should have been time to do longer-term studies of it. Maybe it’s harder to get funding, or something.

    No one makes any money off of natural immunity.

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  11. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):
    Her main point is that we seem to know more about the coverage length of the vax than we do of the natural post-covid immunity.

    I suppose that could be true, but it’s too bad because the natural immunity has been around for longer than the vax, so there should have been time to do longer-term studies of it. Maybe it’s harder to get funding, or something.

    No one makes any money off of natural immunity.

    Bingo. Plus, the fear factor would have been lost long ago of the ever-growing immunity level in the population had been tracked from Day One. That would have undercut the Big Steal last October-November.

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  12. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    Do not get vaccinated. You now have more than sufficient antibodies to protect you from the virus for the rest of your life.

    This. Don’t do it. You are now more protected than those who have just received a shot.

    People who survived the Spanish flu continued to produce antibodies for the rest of their lives. You will, too.

     

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  13. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Had COVID? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime

    (Naturally, the people who profit from the vaccine don’t want you to know this.)

     

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  14. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):
    Her main point is that we seem to know more about the coverage length of the vax than we do of the natural post-covid immunity.

    I suppose that could be true, but it’s too bad because the natural immunity has been around for longer than the vax, so there should have been time to do longer-term studies of it. Maybe it’s harder to get funding, or something.

    Studies are being done, they’re just not being reported in the mainstream, because that would put the kibosh on making everyone get two doses of the vaccine. (Why not three? Make three times the money! Oh, right. They’re already talking about boosters . . . perpetual WuFlu vaccines for everyone! $$$$$$$$)

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  15. JoelB Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    Do not get vaccinated. You now have more than sufficient antibodies to protect you from the virus for the rest of your life.

    This. Don’t do it. You are now more protected than those who have just received a shot.

    People who survived the Spanish flu continued to produce antibodies for the rest of their lives. You will, too.

     

    The last paragraph of your linked article from 2008 is quite interesting:

    Anthony Fauci, MD, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said recent studies have projected that immunity lasts several decades; the current study provides proof, the AP reported. “This is the mother of all immunological memory here,” he told the AP.

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  16. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    JoelB (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    Do not get vaccinated. You now have more than sufficient antibodies to protect you from the virus for the rest of your life.

    This. Don’t do it. You are now more protected than those who have just received a shot.

    People who survived the Spanish flu continued to produce antibodies for the rest of their lives. You will, too.

    The last paragraph of your linked article from 2008 is quite interesting:

    Anthony Fauci, MD, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said recent studies have projected that immunity lasts several decades; the current study provides proof, the AP reported. “This is the mother of all immunological memory here,” he told the AP.

    I know, right?

    Kind of like the Anthony Fauci who once insisted that Hydroxychloroquine was an effective treatment, or the CDC which once wrote papers on it.

    Heck it was even in an episode of The Dead Zone.

     

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  17. The Reticulator Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):
    Studies are being done, they’re just not being reported in the mainstream, because that would put the kibosh on making everyone get two doses of the vaccine. (Why not three? Make three times the money! Oh, right. They’re already talking about boosters . . . perpetual WuFlu vaccines for everyone!

    AFAIK the booster being talked about is not just a repeat of the same vaccine. It’s to introduce your body to a somewhat different protein that will better alert your immune system against some of the new variants.  The variants are a valid concern, but so far a modified vaccine doesn’t seem to be necessary.  If it turns out to be necessary, I’ll probably get the new vaccine, but it first has to get developed and tested and we need to see some data on how well it does the trick.  There will be a lot to talk about and evaluate before it comes to that.  (I presume and hope that development is in progress,  just in case.)

    The news media and government have their own ulterior motives, but I doubt they expect to make money off of it compared to other courses of action. The motives I distrust have more to do with power over people.  

    As for the studies that are being done, I would appreciate links or citations.  Most studies don’t get reported in the news media; it’s just not something the news media are capable of doing.  And when they are reported in the news media, it’s rare that they are reported accurately. Why so much emphasis on the news media when we have an internet for disseminating information? 

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  18. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    EDIT: Whoops . . . wrong link . . . hold on . . .

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  19. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    As for the studies that are being done, I would appreciate links or citations.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03647-4

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  20. Chuck Thatcher
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    EJHill

    “Freedom from Fear” was one of Franklin Roosevelt’s “Four Freedoms.” This, and the other three: Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Worship and Freedom from Want

    Freedom from Want is nothing but a Democrat pipe dream.  The middle two Freedom of speech and worship are things no man can take from me, I can only give it up.

    And the first, Freedom from Fear, well, “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”  As for Roosevelt and his ilk, “What can man do to me?”

     

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  21. The Reticulator Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    As for the studies that are being done, I would appreciate links or citations.

    https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-310773/v1

    One minor point that I hope the reviewers catch before this study gets published:  I think the authors need to define the term RBD when they first start using it, as is supposed to be done in scientific papers.  I am not familiar with the term RBD (or a lot of the other acronyms) but acronyms are usually supposed to get an introduction when they are first used.  Like this, for example:

    However, the dynamics of antibody secreting plasmablasts (PBs) and germinal centre (GC) B cells induced by these vaccines in SARS-CoV-2 naïve and antigen-experienced humans remains unclear.

    The acronyms PB and GC are introduced here. Not that I know very specifically what plasmablasts or germinal center B cells are, either, but those introductions gives me enough information to track them down if I can’t grok enough from the context.  

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  22. The Reticulator Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    One minor point that I hope the reviewers catch before this study gets published:  I think the authors need to define the term RBD when they first start using it, as is supposed to be done in scientific papers.  I am not familiar with the term RBD (or a lot of the other acronyms) but acronyms are usually supposed to get an introduction when they are first used. 

    I did a search for “RBD immune”  and found a study in which that term is defined, the way it’s supposed to be done.

    As an essential step during infection, SARS-CoV-2 uses the receptor-binding domain (RBD) of the spike protein to

    And then, looking for the term “receptor-binding domain” found that RBD is indeed defined in the study you linked. So never mind. 

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  23. Buckpasser Member
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    Keeping us fearful is how they (government, democrats, etc.) will attempt to control us.  They are afraid of us (normal, freedom loving citizens).  This is why they will never say that the “pandemic” is over.

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  24. The Reticulator Member
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    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    Keeping us fearful is how they (government, democrats, etc.) will attempt to control us. They are afraid of us (normal, freedom loving citizens). This is why they will never say that the “pandemic” is over.

    What about the ever-more lurid e-mail headlines about vaccines that try to make people afraid of them?  Seems we can’t get away from fearmongers.  

    And what about me, when I try to spread fear of the administrative state?  Shouldn’t people be afraid of it?   

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  25. Ontheleftcoast Member
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  26. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Our county of 100,000 (or so) has had an average of zero to two new positive tests for the last month. Right now the seven day average in our county is one. (And what does a “case” look like?)

    Face masks are, for obvious reasons, becoming rarer here, but not completely gone. I just passed a car where both people in the car were wearing masks. And I still weep internally when I see a kid forced to wear a mask, as I did at a store yesterday.

    I can’t presume to know what that’s all about. But there’s obviously still fear among the populace.

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  27. Al Sparks Thatcher
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    I’ve gotten the Phizer vaccine.  I only did it because my place of work was offering an exemption from their mask mandate (which was later relaxed further where I didn’t really need it to go unmasked).

    Under the present circumstances, including where I live and how things have relaxed, I would not get the vaccine if I had already caught Covid.

    For all I know, I might have, without symptoms.  To this day, I have never been tested.

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  28. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Al Sparks (View Comment):
    I’ve gotten the Phizer vaccine.  I only did it because my place of work was offering an exemption from their mask mandate (which was later relaxed further where I didn’t really need it to go unmasked).

    My eldest daughter’s employer says that unvaccinated employees can go without face masks. She won’t get the vaccine (and I advise her not to, given the uncertainties of the vaccine on teenagers — who aren’t even at risk), but she’s scrupulously honest, so she keeps wearing that damned mask. I wish her employer would unclench.

    Younger daughter works in food service, and hasn’t had to wear a mask in about a month. And interacts far more with the public (and with food!) than the eldest.

     

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