What Happened to Ireland?

 

One hundred years ago the original IRA fought the most powerful empire in the world to a standstill in Ireland. This resulted in the UK granting a de facto independent state to Ireland’s political leaders, which became a republic within thirty years. Much of the original IRA were devout Mass-going Catholics. My ancestors among them.

I wonder had they seen into the far future the Ireland of today – secular degenerate and liberal with a vicious anti-Catholicism in the air – would they have bothered.

I wonder.

Speaking of awful wonders, all month in my local city in Waterford a culture war has been going on between pride supporters and those opposed to its promotion. Several LGBT flags have been vandalised. Cue horror from liberals. Well, now the liberals did their own vandalism.

On the entrance to Waterford city, they covered over a famous mural with the pride colours.

Vandalism. Pure vandalism. Sick and sad. We all know that flag is not about tolerance in modern society. But fitting for modern Ireland.

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  1. Unsk Member
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    Sadly Paddy , it is not just Ireland. It’s coming here like a run away train  hell bent on destroying any goodness in its path.  

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  2. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    Not to mention the continuing hard Covid lockdown.  I think Ireland suffered more than any other nation.  What’s the status of that today, Paddy?

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  3. Marjorie Reynolds Coolidge
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    Paddy I think you’d enjoy the Percy French festival in Roscommon next month. I can’t make all of  it this year but I should be able to go to David Quinn’s talk.

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  4. Marjorie Reynolds Coolidge
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    Unsk (View Comment):

    Sadly Paddy , it is not just Ireland. It’s coming here like a run away train hell bent on destroying any goodness in its path.

    I really found Carl Trueman’s book the Rise and Triumph of the modern self the best explainer of things like this. 

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  5. Stad Coolidge
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    Ugh . . .

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  6. Aaron Miller Member
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    You would appreciate this interview of Mattie Harte, from Northern Ireland, about why Ireland abandoned Catholicism. 

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  7. Paddy S Member
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    I’ve updated the above story with more tales of vandalism this time in my local city Waterford.

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  8. Aaron Miller Member
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    You will have to explain Mount Misery for us, Paddy, because leftist journalists won’t. I’m failing to find a  history online.

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  9. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Aaron Miller (View Comment):

    You would appreciate this interview of Mattie Harte, from Northern Ireland, about why Ireland abandoned Catholicism.

    One thing I took away from this interview is the North Ireland guy’s statement that for the most part, in Ireland,  being Catholic had only the meaning of “going to Mass on Sundays.”  When a religion is just a social phenomena like going to the local bingo parlor on Wednesday afternoons, it is on its way out.

     

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  10. The Reticulator Member
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):
    When a religion is just a social phenomena like going to the local bingo parlor on Wednesday afternoons, it is on its way out.

    That’s true. However, a mistake I made when younger was to think you could have religion without the social component.  

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  11. Doug Watt Moderator
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    Well Paddy, the decision has been made to allow the lunatics to run the asylum.

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  12. Podkayne of Israel Member
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    Aaron Miller (View Comment):

    You would appreciate this interview of Mattie Harte, from Northern Ireland, about why Ireland abandoned Catholicism.

    Cannot seem to get this to play.

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  13. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member
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    Paddy, I don’t have nearly enough information to answer your question in any useful detail.  I mean, it’s pretty obvious that a radical Leftist ideology took over, as it has taken over much of the US, but I’m not even sure why this happened in the US, much less Ireland.

    I do have a couple of questions.  Was there a point in time at which Catholicism was taught in the Irish public schools?  If so, did this end?  And if so, when?

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  14. The Reticulator Member
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Paddy, I don’t have nearly enough information to answer your question in any useful detail. I mean, it’s pretty obvious that a radical Leftist ideology took over, as it has taken over much of the US, but I’m not even sure why this happened in the US, much less Ireland.

    I do have a couple of questions. Was there a point in time at which Catholicism was taught in the Irish public schools? If so, did this end? And if so, when?

    Poland is a Catholic country that seems to be at an earlier stage of this, but going in the same direction. Catholicism was very important to national identity, but now some people are rejecting it.

    I think it comes with prosperity. 

    I watch the Easy Polish videos–interviews with people on the street to help viewers learn Polish–and was struck by one woman’s remarks a few days ago. She didn’t like the fact that Poland seemed to be two different countries now.  I’m pretty sure this is what she was talking about.

    Poland is one of the most homogeneous countries you’ll find, ethnically and religiously, and there are these divisions that are growing.  

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  15. Marjorie Reynolds Coolidge
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

     

    I do have a couple of questions. Was there a point in time at which Catholicism was taught in the Irish public schools? If so, did this end? And if so, when?

    Yes. The majority of schools would have a Catholic ethos since the foundation of the state since it was the religious orders who had founded the most of them. Even after many of the nuns and brothers etc retired and were replaced by lay teachers and boards of management a lot of them are still under the patronage of the church. But the curriculum they follow is the state curriculum and we have plenty of activist teachers here too. 

    Any connection to Catholicism, in schools, hospitals and public or social policy has been under a sustained attack for decades.

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  16. Marjorie Reynolds Coolidge
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    http://www.icatholic.ie/david-quinn-how-we-killed-god/
    ‘the real religion in Ireland has always been consensus’. I’m going to hear him give a talk next month. It’s a great book and I highly recommend.

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