Chaos in Austin: Update

 

Some updates on the mass shooting in Austin that I reported on earlier. Sadly, one of the victims, a visitor from Michigan, has died. Another woman remains in critical condition.

Two arrests have been made. Oddly enough, the 17-year-old arrested appears to exactly match the “vague” description provided by the police that the UT Football News refused to publish “as it is too vague at this time to be useful in identifying the shooter and such publication could be harmful in perpetuating stereotypes.”

KXAN, a TV station actually more interested in reporting news than in virtue-signaling, published the Chief of Police’s description: “He said the man may be a Black man with a “skinny” build and locs-style hair.” Here’s a photo of the suspect:

News stories indicate that the event was the result of a dispute between two individuals who had engaged in previous violent confrontations.  The identity and demographics of the second suspect have not been released as “they” is a juvenile.* And I have a hunch that we all can make a pretty accurate guess as to “their” demographics.

As usual, the anti-gun people chimed in saying that lack of gun control is the cause of this incident. Never overlook the opportunity for a tragedy to advance your political agenda.** It’s pretty easy to counter that by pointing out that both of the suspects were violating laws already on the books.  It is already illegal for both of the suspects to possess concealed handguns. The laws don’t mean anything unless you enforce them.

But they don’t want enforcement, either, because the majority of people arrested are going to look something like the photo above. Police in Minnesota recently attempted to make an arrest for a weapons violation; the result was more rioting. But being leftist means you never have to take responsibility for any of your policies.

* Using the proper pronoun makes that sentence look so much better, doesn’t it?

** Though Texas Governor Greg Abbott is not exactly shying away from using the victims to advance his own political agenda.

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  1. John H. Member
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    But it’s Juneteenth.

    Or is that tomorrow?

    I’m not sure.

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  2. kedavis Member
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    Question:  Is he as dumb as he looks?

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  3. JosePluma, Local Man of Mystery Thatcher
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Question: Is he as dumb as he looks?

    I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.  It’s pretty hard to look intelligent in a booking photo.  But I think you can see the reason he did a mag dump and managed to hit everything but the intended target.

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  4. Mark Alexander Coolidge
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    His left eye must be really fascinating because his right eye keeps staring at it.

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  5. Rōnin Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Question: Is he as dumb as he looks?

    Yes, I think we can say yes, but don’t disrespect him. 

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  6. kedavis Member
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    Rōnin (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Question: Is he as dumb as he looks?

    Yes, I think we can say yes, but don’t disrespect him.

    For sure.  He might randomly shoot some other uninvolved people again, if he gets disrespected.

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  7. CACrabtree Coolidge
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    Someone call Kamala so she can bond him out.

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  8. Mark Camp Member
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    JosePluma, Local Man of Mystery: Sadly, one of the victims, a visitor from Michigan, has died. 

    You can assume that we your Ricochet friends already know that you know that death is sad. 

    We Republicans sometimes feel so defensive that we start to talk like Democrats, who have a compulsive need to signal to their comrades that they are not of the deplorables–that they have normal human values.

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  9. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge
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    There is zero reason for two juveniles to be in Austin’s bar district.  I heard the two youths were from out-of-town, but I am not able confirm.

    I found a news source.

    AUSTIN, Texas — The Austin Police Department has released more information about the 6th Street mass shooting that left one person dead and 14 others injured.



    In the early morning hours of June 12, two rival groups of teenagers from Killeen crossed paths near Mooseknuckle Pub at 406 E 6th St. The teens knew each other from school.

    One of the shooting suspects, a 17-year-old from Killeen, was part of one of the groups. According to an arrest affidavit, the crew he was with glared at the other group.

    The document says the suspected shooter said “What y’all wanna do? Y’all wanna fight?”

    A member of the rival group replied “It’s whatever.”


    Police say the suspect pulled a gun from his waistband and began firing shots.

    15 people were injured, and one of the victims, 25-year-old Douglas Kantor, died at a hospital Sunday around noon.

    Two people have been arrested in connection to the shooting. APD arrested a 15-year-old on Saturday and booked the juvenile into Gardner-Bettes Juvenile Detention Facility for deadly conduct. On June 14, 2021, the other suspect, a 17-year-old, was arrested in the Killeen area. He was charged with aggravated assault serious bodily injury, a 2nd degree felony, and has a $500,000 bond.

    APD is being aided in its investigation by the FBI, U.S. Marshals Lone Star Fugitive Task Force, Texas Department of Public Safety and the ATF.

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  10. Tex929rr Coolidge
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    That the shooters are from Killeen is somewhat telling.  Killeen and nearby Harker Heights are adjacent to Ft Hood and have a pretty bad reputation for juvenile crime.  

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  11. Goldgeller Member
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    These shootings are always sad even if it is possible to become numb to them for various reasons. Prayers to the families. I saw on a twitter thread the person from Michigan was a Wolverine. That’s a darn shame. I don’t know. When I saw the picture of the dude with his graduation gear on in the thread it sorta hit me in a different way than usual. 

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  12. navyjag Lincoln
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    A dumb question but I was a Navy guy. Why would someone carry a gun who does not know how to aim it to hit his target? My dad’s training me with a .22 was 60 years ago.  But we see all the stories of young kids in their living rooms getting a bullet in the head from a gang fight many yards away.  Maybe the NRA can sponsor gang shooting range lessons. Might save some innocent lives. 

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  13. CACrabtree Coolidge
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    navyjag (View Comment):

    A dumb question but I was a Navy guy. Why would someone carry a gun who does not know how to aim it to hit his target? My dad’s training me with a .22 was 60 years ago. But we see all the stories of young kids in their living rooms getting a bullet in the head from a gang fight many yards away. Maybe the NRA can sponsor gang shooting range lessons. Might save some innocent lives.

    If I were an instructor on that range, I think I’d stay in a bullet-proof booth…

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  14. JosePluma, Local Man of Mystery Thatcher
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    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    That the shooters are from Killeen is somewhat telling. Killeen and nearby Harker Heights are adjacent to Ft Hood and have a pretty bad reputation for juvenile crime.

    I did some of my ER training in Metroplex Hospital up there.  The staff nickname for the place was “Murderplex.”

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  15. navyjag Lincoln
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    So I guess the $64 question is how do you keeps guns out of the hands of 16-17 year old idiot felons who don’t know how to shoot without bothering 100 million hunters or responsible citizens who want to protect themselves. Any ideas?

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  16. kedavis Member
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    navyjag (View Comment):

    So I guess the $64 question is how do you keeps guns out of the hands of 16-17 year old idiot felons who don’t know how to shoot without bothering 100 million hunters or responsible citizens who want to protect themselves. Any ideas?

    A smackdown by their parents might help, if they had decent parents and if DCS wouldn’t swoop in to forbid it.

    It’s been known to happen, but not nearly enough.

     

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  17. JosePluma, Local Man of Mystery Thatcher
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    navyjag (View Comment):

    So I guess the $64 question is how do you keeps guns out of the hands of 16-17 year old idiot felons who don’t know how to shoot without bothering 100 million hunters or responsible citizens who want to protect themselves. Any ideas?

    Two words:  “Stop” and “Frisk” 

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  18. navyjag Lincoln
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    JosePluma, Local Man of Mystery (View Comment):

    navyjag (View Comment):

    So I guess the $64 question is how do you keeps guns out of the hands of 16-17 year old idiot felons who don’t know how to shoot without bothering 100 million hunters or responsible citizens who want to protect themselves. Any ideas?

    Two words: “Stop” and “Frisk”

    Did NYC  Police try that? How did it work out?

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  19. kedavis Member
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    navyjag (View Comment):

    JosePluma, Local Man of Mystery (View Comment):

    navyjag (View Comment):

    So I guess the $64 question is how do you keeps guns out of the hands of 16-17 year old idiot felons who don’t know how to shoot without bothering 100 million hunters or responsible citizens who want to protect themselves. Any ideas?

    Two words: “Stop” and “Frisk”

    Did NYC Police try that? How did it work out?

    I’ve never lived there, but what I heard and read was that it was very successful, and much of the current increase in crime in NY began after that policy was stopped.

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  20. navyjag Lincoln
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    navyjag (View Comment):

    JosePluma, Local Man of Mystery (View Comment):

    navyjag (View Comment):

    So I guess the $64 question is how do you keeps guns out of the hands of 16-17 year old idiot felons who don’t know how to shoot without bothering 100 million hunters or responsible citizens who want to protect themselves. Any ideas?

    Two words: “Stop” and “Frisk”

    Did NYC Police try that? How did it work out?

    I’ve never lived there, but what I heard and read was that it was very successful, and much of the current increase in crime in NY began after that policy was stopped.

    Same info I got. Which is one reason my daughter moved from NYC to Nashville. Much safer now. 

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  21. davenr321 Coolidge
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    “The document says the suspected shooter said “What y’all wanna do? Y’all wanna fight?”

    A member of the rival group replied “It’s whatever.” “

    ”It’s whatever”??? What kind of lame parley is that? 

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  22. kedavis Member
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    davenr321 (View Comment):

    “The document says the suspected shooter said “What y’all wanna do? Y’all wanna fight?”

    A member of the rival group replied “It’s whatever.” “

    ”It’s whatever”??? What kind of lame parley is that?

    “Dissing” used to be a lot more artful.

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  23. Flicker Coolidge
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    davenr321 (View Comment):

    “The document says the suspected shooter said “What y’all wanna do? Y’all wanna fight?”

    A member of the rival group replied “It’s whatever.” “

    ”It’s whatever”??? What kind of lame parley is that?

    Laconic.

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  24. Jimmy Carter Member
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    davenr321 (View Comment):

    “The document says the suspected shooter said “What y’all wanna do? Y’all wanna fight?”

    A member of the rival group replied “It’s whatever.” “

    ”It’s whatever”??? What kind of lame parley is that?

    A kind of “parley” to get Yer ass shot.

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