The Fuel Shortage That Is and Is Not

 

Colonial Pipeline InfoColonial Pipeline announced Wednesday, May 12, that they had initiated pipeline restart and that complete service restoration over their entire pipeline network would take several days. This signals the near-term end to the regional fuel distribution disruption triggered May 7, when a ransomware attack was detected and the corporation shut down their multi-fuel pipeline system. However, there will continue to be gas stations with empty storage tanks for the next several days, perhaps for the next week. And. There is no fuel shortage at the system/regional level. There is a real shortage and there is no shortage. Both are true. I explain.

Background

While unstated, Colonial acted to prevent potential catastrophic sabotage, in the form of massive breaks in the pipeline or damage to pump systems along the pipeline. They had dealt last summer with a gasoline spill in Huntersville, NC. Colonial did exactly the right thing.

National and local media reported a cyberattack and listed all the states fed by the pipeline system. State declarations of emergency swiftly followed, as prudent precautionary steps to unlock statutory authorities that might be needed if supplies actually hit critical low levels. The news naturally cued the public to quickly top off their cars and trucks.

Normal consumer behavior is to rush out and fill up if you think there might be a shortage or big price hike. Hence the retail tanks emptied. This generates great visuals and very easy news copy. At the same time, we were getting some stories saying that there really was no great shortage. While the New York Times is a shameless leftist propaganda rag, the broken clock got it at least partially right, showing a good visual of a large fuel storage tank farm, a large cluster of huge above-ground storage tanks.

How Pipelines Work (Thumbnail Sketch)

I looked for a clear illustration but ended up falling back on one I knew from my days in Army liquid logistics. Here is a simple diagram of a fuel distribution system, starting from ocean tankers and ending in retail operations, fueling all manner of equipment. It works for purposes of explaining what is happening with Colonial.

Pipeline

Fuel comes from refineries. We do not need tanker ships to carry refined fuel products around most of the continental United States. So, the start point is a refinery with large storage tanks buffering the flow of product. See the six cylinders just in-shore from the fuel tanker ship for comparison. Pipelines only work with constant pressure, constant flow rate. A section of pipe is either full or empty, not partially filled with a trickle sloshing around in the bottom of the pipe. You achieve operational status by having enough at the beginning of any given section to keep the pipeline filled while flowing at a particular speed. Booster pumps along the system help keep the flow rate correct.

In addition to booster pump systems along the pipeline, you need large storage tank systems for two purposes. First, you want a buffer, an ability to keep sections operational if other sections are offline for any reason. So, big storage tank systems at each end of a section of pipeline let you maintain full pipes, capturing the volume for a certain time or feeding volume back into the pipeline if needed further down the line.

Eventually, you get to a terminal storage point, the end of the pipeline or pipeline branch. From such a terminal, or from an intermediate/ branching terminal, you can start running truck or rail tanker car operations to larger and smaller customers with larger or smaller storage tanks, until you get to retail operations, dispensing fuel from small storage tanks or even the tanker truck trailers. From your perspective, this is the big tanker truck pulling up to your local gas station or convenience store, attaching hoses to ports going into the ground, while you plug a small nozzle from the station pump into your vehicle.

To add one more detail, the same pipe carries multiple fuel types. You flow one fuel type on a timed schedule, then you mark a buffer segment, an interface or “transmix” you would not use, followed by the next fuel type for a certain time, and so on. You can do all of this manually, but it certainly helps to have the controls and sensors networked and responding to a computerized program, rather than a clock/stopwatch and timetable. You can even run internal maintenance, injecting a “pig” into the pipeline to scour the internal walls for a certain segment. Colonial runs gasoline, diesel, and commercial jet fuel through its pipeline system. Here is Colonial’s illustration of multiple fuels flowing in one pipeline:

pipeline multiple fuels

Shortage and No Shortage

Thinking this through, you can see that shortages at the retail pump do not equal shortages at the terminal storage tank farms. There are a limited number of qualified fuel tanker truck drivers and currently certified fuel tanker trailers. Empty the retail storage and it takes a while to refill, operating within safety regulations including driver hours. By the time the retail tanks are refilled, we should be hearing that the pipelines are back to full capacity, refilling the large pipeline terminal storage tanks. That should end the run on gas at the pump. Presumably, fuel products have been stacking up at the terminal storage between refineries and the pipeline system. We have not heard that refineries had to shut down because they could not push product out any longer. That would be a sign of actual disruption at the regional or national level.

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  1. kedavis Coolidge
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    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    I’m in NC. This morning about 50% of the local gas stations were out of gas when I drove this morning. On the news this evening it was 70% of the local stations were out of gas.

    That makes perfect sense. Gas stations have very limited storage capacity. If they all see a spike in business, the wholesalers cannot keep up with resupply. The number of qualified tanker truck drivers per local area is effectively fixed for any relevant time period, likewise currently certified tanker trailers. If there is a widespread run on local stations, there is no way to immediately resupply.

    And.

    Hannity and Ingraham and . . . are spreading ignorance with claims this has something to do with Biden. It does not.

    And.

    The state and national executives could and should have shown up immediately on camera with the following:

    Here is the map of large storage tanks nearest you. There are X days of supply in these tanks. The estimated time for the Colonial Pipeline to get back up to full operation is X-N days, so there is absolutely no danger of any state actually running out of any kind of fuel.

    If everyone runs out and fills up their cars and trucks today, their local gas station will run out, and the local fuel truck drivers will not be able to immediately fill those stations back up. If everyone just goes to the gas station when they need to fill up, as usual, there will be no lines, and your local station will not run out.

    Again, you do not get your gas directly from any pipeline. You get it from massive storage tanks that are full of fuel for at least X days worth of demand. We are working closely with all pipeline operators to prevent the next attack on our infrastructure.

    True; the hack of Colonial’s system was, in no way, Biden’s fault. However, his stammering explanation that the ultimate remedy is to spend more money for education (so that would-be students can be super cyber-security experts) was embarrassing.

    Those would be the students they’re trying to make/keep dumb enough to vote for Democrats?

    Good luck!

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  2. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    I’m in NC. This morning about 50% of the local gas stations were out of gas when I drove this morning. On the news this evening it was 70% of the local stations were out of gas.

    […]

    Again, you do not get your gas directly from any pipeline. You get it from massive storage tanks that are full of fuel for at least X days worth of demand. We are working closely with all pipeline operators to prevent the next attack on our infrastructure.

    True; the hack of Colonial’s system was, in no way, Biden’s fault. However, his stammering explanation that the ultimate remedy is to spend more money for education (so that would-be students can be super cyber-security experts) was embarrassing.

    Dog bites man. Sure, more real voters actually voted for Resident Biden than Barack Obama or Donald Trump. Yup. I believe.

     

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  3. Weeping Inactive
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown: Normal consumer behavior is to rush out and fill up if you think there might be a shortage or big price hike. Hence the retail tanks emptied.

    Tanks and grocery bags apparently. It can get really crazy.

    Hmmm. It turns out that the video of a woman apparently trying to put gasoline into a plastic grocery bag is from 2019. But it got a million clicks, so who cares about real reality?

    He did show me that one, but he also showed me a couple of others. Of course, it’s entirely possible that those were from yesteryears as well. They were on Twitter, after all. ;) Having said that, my question from another post still stand. How in the world did she expect to get the gas from the plastic bag into her fuel tank? Sounds like wasted time and money to me.

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  4. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Where is the nation’s gas reserve? Is it not imperative to keep a major part of the country from shutting down right now, as our economy has already lost 12 Trillion to COVID?

    Or maybe Biden could require that every immigrant coming over the border bring  gallon of Mexican black gold with them?

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  5. kedavis Coolidge
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    Weeping (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown: Normal consumer behavior is to rush out and fill up if you think there might be a shortage or big price hike. Hence the retail tanks emptied.

    Tanks and grocery bags apparently. It can get really crazy.

    Hmmm. It turns out that the video of a woman apparently trying to put gasoline into a plastic grocery bag is from 2019. But it got a million clicks, so who cares about real reality?

    He did show me that one, but he also showed me a couple of others. Of course, it’s entirely possible that those were from yesteryears as well. They were on Twitter, after all. ;) Having said that, my question from another post still stand. How in the world did she expect to get the gas from the plastic bag into her fuel tank? Sounds like wasted time and money to me.

    Maybe it was for a lawn mower, or something?

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  6. kedavis Coolidge
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Where is the nation’s gas reserve? Is it not imperative to keep a major part of the country from shutting down right now, as our economy has already lost 12 Trillion to COVID?

    Or maybe Biden could require that every immigrant coming over the border bring gallon of Mexican black gold with them?

    I prefer Texas Tea.  :-)

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  7. Weeping Inactive
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown: Normal consumer behavior is to rush out and fill up if you think there might be a shortage or big price hike. Hence the retail tanks emptied.

    Tanks and grocery bags apparently. It can get really crazy.

    Hmmm. It turns out that the video of a woman apparently trying to put gasoline into a plastic grocery bag is from 2019. But it got a million clicks, so who cares about real reality?

    He did show me that one, but he also showed me a couple of others. Of course, it’s entirely possible that those were from yesteryears as well. They were on Twitter, after all. ;) Having said that, my question from another post still stand. How in the world did she expect to get the gas from the plastic bag into her fuel tank? Sounds like wasted time and money to me.

    Maybe it was for a lawn mower, or something?

    I suppose that’s possible. But it seems to me that the same question still stands. How do you get the fuel into a lawn mower from what looks like a plastic grocery bag?

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  8. kedavis Coolidge
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    Weeping (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown: Normal consumer behavior is to rush out and fill up if you think there might be a shortage or big price hike. Hence the retail tanks emptied.

    Tanks and grocery bags apparently. It can get really crazy.

    Hmmm. It turns out that the video of a woman apparently trying to put gasoline into a plastic grocery bag is from 2019. But it got a million clicks, so who cares about real reality?

    He did show me that one, but he also showed me a couple of others. Of course, it’s entirely possible that those were from yesteryears as well. They were on Twitter, after all. ;) Having said that, my question from another post still stand. How in the world did she expect to get the gas from the plastic bag into her fuel tank? Sounds like wasted time and money to me.

    Maybe it was for a lawn mower, or something?

    I suppose that’s possible. But it seems to me that the same question still stands. How do you get the fuel into a lawn mower from what looks like a plastic grocery bag?

    I would put a corner of the bag over/into the tank filler opening, and snip it with scissors.  (But not completely, so as not to get a piece of plastic bag into the tank.)

    Or do that with some other container, and then pour from that.

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown: Normal consumer behavior is to rush out and fill up if you think there might be a shortage or big price hike. Hence the retail tanks emptied.

    Tanks and grocery bags apparently. It can get really crazy.

    Hmmm. It turns out that the video of a woman apparently trying to put gasoline into a plastic grocery bag is from 2019. But it got a million clicks, so who cares about real reality?

    He did show me that one, but he also showed me a couple of others. Of course, it’s entirely possible that those were from yesteryears as well. They were on Twitter, after all. ;) Having said that, my question from another post still stand. How in the world did she expect to get the gas from the plastic bag into her fuel tank? Sounds like wasted time and money to me.

    Maybe it was for a lawn mower, or something?

    I suppose that’s possible. But it seems to me that the same question still stands. How do you get the fuel into a lawn mower from what looks like a plastic grocery bag?

    I would put a corner of the bag over/into the tank filler opening, and snip it with scissors.

    Or do that with some other container, and then pour from that.

    You don’t think the grocery bag would be too flimsy for that? They feel awfully flimsy to me – flimsy enough that I envision the fuel going everywhere when you puncture the bag. But you could be right. It wouldn’t be the first time I’ve been wrong. :)

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  10. kedavis Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown: Normal consumer behavior is to rush out and fill up if you think there might be a shortage or big price hike. Hence the retail tanks emptied.

    Tanks and grocery bags apparently. It can get really crazy.

    Hmmm. It turns out that the video of a woman apparently trying to put gasoline into a plastic grocery bag is from 2019. But it got a million clicks, so who cares about real reality?

    He did show me that one, but he also showed me a couple of others. Of course, it’s entirely possible that those were from yesteryears as well. They were on Twitter, after all. ;) Having said that, my question from another post still stand. How in the world did she expect to get the gas from the plastic bag into her fuel tank? Sounds like wasted time and money to me.

    Maybe it was for a lawn mower, or something?

    I suppose that’s possible. But it seems to me that the same question still stands. How do you get the fuel into a lawn mower from what looks like a plastic grocery bag?

    I would put a corner of the bag over/into the tank filler opening, and snip it with scissors.

    Or do that with some other container, and then pour from that.

    You don’t think the grocery bag would be too flimsy for that? They feel awfully flimsy to me – flimsy enough that I envision the fuel going everywhere when you puncture the bag. But you could be right. It wouldn’t be the first time I’ve been wrong. :)

    Oh there are definitely variations in plastic grocery bag quality.  And if I had to do that myself, I would probably want a bag from a restaurant not a grocery store.

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  11. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    Hang On (View Comment):

    I’m in NC. This morning about 50% of the local gas stations were out of gas when I drove this morning. On the news this evening it was 70% of the local stations were out of gas.

    I’m in NC, too – and I live about 10 minutes from Huntersville, which CAB mentioned.

    Actually got some gas yesterday, in Huntersville – drove past a station, they had short lines at the pumps, so I pulled up and got 6 gallons.  I don’t need more than that, but I was down to an eighth of a tank.

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  12. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    I’m in NC. This morning about 50% of the local gas stations were out of gas when I drove this morning. On the news this evening it was 70% of the local stations were out of gas.

    That makes perfect sense. Gas stations have very limited storage capacity. If they all see a spike in business, the wholesalers cannot keep up with resupply. The number of qualified tanker truck drivers per local area is effectively fixed for any relevant time period, likewise currently certified tanker trailers. If there is a widespread run on local stations, there is no way to immediately resupply.

    And.

    Hannity and Ingraham and . . . are spreading ignorance with claims this has something to do with Biden. It does not.

    And.

    The state and national executives could and should have shown up immediately on camera with the following:

    Here is the map of large storage tanks nearest you. There are X days of supply in these tanks. The estimated time for the Colonial Pipeline to get back up to full operation is X-N days, so there is absolutely no danger of any state actually running out of any kind of fuel.

    If everyone runs out and fills up their cars and trucks today, their local gas station will run out, and the local fuel truck drivers will not be able to immediately fill those stations back up. If everyone just goes to the gas station when they need to fill up, as usual, there will be no lines, and your local station will not run out.

    Again, you do not get your gas directly from any pipeline. You get it from massive storage tanks that are full of fuel for at least X days worth of demand. We are working closely with all pipeline operators to prevent the next attack on our infrastructure.

    True; the hack of Colonial’s system was, in no way, Biden’s fault. However, his stammering explanation that the ultimate remedy is to spend more money for education (so that would-be students can be super cyber-security experts) was embarrassing.

    Not if you’re in the teacher’s union.  It was spectacular!

    • #42
  13. Stad Coolidge
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    A friend of mine who lives in Raleigh said North Carolina was out of gas and he was running on fumes.  I’m sure he’s happy it won’t be long before things get back to normal (fingers crossed) . . .

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    CACrabtree (View Comment):
    However, his stammering explanation that the ultimate remedy is to spend more money for education (so that would-be students can be super cyber-security experts) was embarrassing.

    Just re-train the coal miners, right?

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  15. Rodin Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    Fantastic post Clifford. Of course, when it comes to the word “shortage”, all bets are off. In neighboring West Virginia, there are long lines at the pump even though the state gets its fuel from the Plantation Pipeline. The situation was getting so bad that the governor had to hold a special news conference to attempt to alleviate the situation:

    https://www.wsaz.com/2021/05/12/wva-governor-says-we-are-creating-our-own-fuel-shortage/

    I hope that the Coors Brewery doesn’t go off-line. I can’t stand to wait in line for a six-pack.

    Yes. Of course, that is exactly what Coors did, when they were taken down by a network attack in March 2021. This took production of several brands offline for some time.

    As long as it never negatively impacts bourbon production, I can live with this.

    I may have create a stash of mash — for emergency distilling. 

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  16. CACrabtree Coolidge
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    OldPhil (View Comment):

    CACrabtree (View Comment):
    However, his stammering explanation that the ultimate remedy is to spend more money for education (so that would-be students can be super cyber-security experts) was embarrassing.

    Just re-train the coal miners, right?

    Yeah, since they’re already learning how to code, it’s just a short hop into cyber-security.  

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  17. Full Size Tabby Member
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    Clifford A. Brown:

    To add one more detail, the same pipe carries multiple fuel types. You flow one fuel type on a timed schedule, then you mark a buffer segment, an interface or “transmix” you would not use, followed by the next fuel type for a certain time, and so on. You can do all of this manually, but it certainly helps to have the controls and sensors networked and responding to a computerized program, rather than a clock/stopwatch and timetable. You can even run internal maintenance, injecting a “pig” into the pipeline to scour the internal walls for a certain segment. Colonial runs gasoline, diesel, and commercial jet fuel through its pipeline system. Here is Colonial’s illustration of multiple fuels flowing in one pipeline:

    pipeline multiple fuels

    Thank you for the explanation. I had wondered how a pipeline could carry multiple types of fuel. 

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  18. kedavis Coolidge
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    OldPhil (View Comment):

    CACrabtree (View Comment):
    However, his stammering explanation that the ultimate remedy is to spend more money for education (so that would-be students can be super cyber-security experts) was embarrassing.

    Just re-train the coal miners, right?

    Sorry, they’re busy coding.

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  19. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Where is the nation’s gas reserve? Is it not imperative to keep a major part of the country from shutting down right now, as our economy has already lost 12 Trillion to COVID?

    Or maybe Biden could require that every immigrant coming over the border bring gallon of Mexican black gold with them?

    There is plenty of fuel of all types. What we saw this last week was a temporary disruption of bulk transportation in one part of the country. News stories triggered consumers to rush out and drain the small storage tanks at gas stations. There was no shortage of supply, just a temporary disruption in transportation at the bulk level, leading to overwhelming fuel truck transportation to gas stations in the states where the news stories said  the pipeline ran.

    Had this all been kept secret somehow, it is likely no one at the consumer level would ever have known the difference. Without runs on the gas stations, the tanker trailer trucks would have shown up on their regular schedules full of fuel from the massive storage tanks at the ends of pipelines. We almost certainly would never have emptied those massive tanks before the pipeline could be brought fully back on line and product, that is stacking up just past the refineries, flowed to refill those massive tanks.

     

     

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  20. kedavis Coolidge
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Where is the nation’s gas reserve? Is it not imperative to keep a major part of the country from shutting down right now, as our economy has already lost 12 Trillion to COVID?

    Or maybe Biden could require that every immigrant coming over the border bring gallon of Mexican black gold with them?

    There is plenty of fuel of all types. What we saw this last week was a temporary disruption of bulk transportation in one part of the country. News stories triggered consumers to rush out and drain the small storage tanks at gas stations. There was no shortage of supply, just a temporary disruption in transportation at the bulk level, leading to overwhelming fuel truck transportation to gas stations in the states where the news stories said the pipeline ran.

    Had this all been kept secret somehow, it is likely no one at the consumer level would ever have known the difference. Without runs on the gas stations, the tanker trailer trucks would have shown up on their regular schedules full of fuel from the massive storage tanks at the ends of pipelines. We almost certainly would never have emptied those massive tanks before the pipeline could be brought fully back on line and product, that is stacking up just past the refineries, flowed to refill those massive tanks.

    Good thing the fuel supply system never got on board that whole “just in time” thing.

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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):
    Had this all been kept secret somehow, it is likely no one at the consumer level would ever have known the difference.

    They didn’t even have to keep it secret, just report it as a temporary glitch without the screaming “OUT OF GAS OMG!!!” headlines. 

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  22. kedavis Coolidge
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    OldPhil (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):
    Had this all been kept secret somehow, it is likely no one at the consumer level would ever have known the difference.

    They didn’t even have to keep it secret, just report it as a temporary glitch without the screaming “OUT OF GAS OMG!!!” headlines.

    Or maybe it’s all part of the scam to make everyone want – even demand – electric cars.  Yeah, like the electrical grid is foolproof…

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  23. La Tapada Member
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    Today our church cancelled the men’s retreat that was to take place in Valle Crucis, NC, this weekend, because people might not have enough gas to get there and back (from the Charlotte area). My husband was planning to drive up with my dad and another friend. :-(

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  24. Blondie Thatcher
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    La Tapada (View Comment):

    Today our church cancelled the men’s retreat that was to take place in Valle Crucis, NC, this weekend, because people might not have enough gas to get there and back (from the Charlotte area). My husband was planning to drive up with my dad and another friend. :-(

    I’m sorry. We are still hoping to go to the OBX Sunday. 

     

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  25. kedavis Coolidge
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    La Tapada (View Comment):

    Today our church cancelled the men’s retreat that was to take place in Valle Crucis, NC, this weekend, because people might not have enough gas to get there and back (from the Charlotte area). My husband was planning to drive up with my dad and another friend. :-(

    That’s unfortunate, but it might be a wise precaution under the circumstances.

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  26. The Reticulator Member
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    OldPhil (View Comment):
    When the lead story on every newscast is lines at the pumps or empty stations, it creates panic no matter the real situation. This is where most news media is at its worst.

    Keep in mind, that these are the same media who don’t understand the coronavirus or pandemics.  

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  27. The Reticulator Member
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    Weeping (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown: Normal consumer behavior is to rush out and fill up if you think there might be a shortage or big price hike. Hence the retail tanks emptied.

    Tanks and grocery bags apparently. It can get really crazy.

    That reminds me, it’s time to stock up on toilet paper.

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  28. kedavis Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown: Normal consumer behavior is to rush out and fill up if you think there might be a shortage or big price hike. Hence the retail tanks emptied.

    Tanks and grocery bags apparently. It can get really crazy.

    That reminds me, it’s time to stock up on toilet paper.

    Been doing that for a while already, shortly after election day in fact.  I now have 7 32-roll packs and 5 12-roll.  Also canned food…

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  29. Blondie Thatcher
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    Well, we didn’t make it to OBX. We opted for the lake. It’s only 30 minutes away. 

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  30. OldPhil Coolidge
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    Blondie (View Comment):

    Well, we didn’t make it to OBX. We opted for the lake. It’s only 30 minutes away.

    We’re still looking forward to going on the 24th. I asked a contact there, who managed to get to Charlotte without mishap today, and she said the situation in Nags Head is “improving.”

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