Pavlov’s RINO

 

Gerry Ford, George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, John McCain, Mitt Romney …   Jeff Flake, John Kasich … Liz Cheney … the gOp has never lacked for someone willing to take the milquetoast, mushy middle lane that has too often led the party. A complete bunch of losers with ego and vanity that has no limit. Their desire to be well thought of, by all, ‘trumps’ every other emotion and purpose for them.

So Liz Cheney is merely the most recent of a long line of extremely vain losers. Get back in line girlfriend, you aren’t so special. And your memory is rotten. Do you not remember what your ‘good friends across the aisle’ did to your father?!

Republican, Inc. TM was infatuated with these lonesome losers for decades. Decorum, tut, tut and all. No matter that their opponents had dramatically shifted the battlefield over time. What once was “off-limits” in politics, now only applied to one party. A completely unfair fight, unless one determined to join the Fighter’s caucus. The first such fighter was President Ronald Wilson Reagan, the precursor to President Donald J. Trump.

President Reagan was the first interloper and brash upstart to the status quo on November 12, 1975, when he announced that he would challenge President Ford in the 1976 primary.  It was not his turn, not his time yet. Hadn’t he and his supporters learned that back in 1968?! But something happened in the standard voting block of the gOp and in a significant part of the Democratic Party. These folks still believed in the goodness of America and not the lies and phony socialism of the Democrats and their dependent classes. President Reagan and this expanded voting block were fed up and tired of apologizing for the goodness of America. But Republican, Inc. TM was completely oblivious to this substantive change. President Reagan and his voting block were conservative fighters and more than willing to challenge the status quo of the establishment gOp that always promised things that they never delivered upon, because they always backed down to their stronger opponents, out of decorum or something.

Liz Cheney, give it up girlfriend. You are embarrassing yourself and your family’s political legacy. Here is what your Dad said about the first 1990’s brash upstart in the party in 2011 (but still failing to confront Romney’s weakness, due to decorum or something):

When Newt showed up he said, we can become the majority, we can take back the House of Representatives. We hadn’t had the House since the 1940s. And initially, none of us believed it. But he was persistent, he was tenacious. He kept it up, kept it up, and kept it up. Finally by ’94 he’s the newly elected Speaker of the House of Representatives with a Republican majority. So I wouldn’t underestimate him.  link

It’s not Trumpism, per se, but in the 2020s, it is the Fighter’s Caucus, because of the democrat socialists, and whether it is a Reagan, Gingrich or Trump (fighters all, but with different styles), the gOp better get its head out of its arse and get on board to select a fighter to save the nation and its Constitution.  Your voters, not Trump, are the ones who demand it.

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  1. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Django (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Liz Cheney is America’s Margaret Thatcher.

    Liz Cheney is America’s Vidkun Quisling.

    My hope is that after this week it won’t matter which she is and that she will be in the dustbin.

    The View is probably already contacting her to be the new “conservative” punching bag for Whoopie and Joey. 

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  2. kedavis Coolidge
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    Baker (View Comment):

    If you think Cheney is mushy middle, your only guiding principle is fealty to one guy. That’s not good.

    You can argue she just shouldn’t say anything about Jan. 6 or the election but you can’t say she’s not conservative.

    You seem to miss the point that Wyoming is entitled to have her as their representative if THEY think she’s adequately representing their interests.  For her to be in a party leadership position is a separate issue.  Taking her out of the Party Chair position doesn’t send her packing back to Wyoming (or, more likely, Virginia).  She likely got that position in the first place just because of the family name (which should be Perry anyway, in her case) not by great merit.  But either way, she has no independent right to keep it.

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  3. kedavis Coolidge
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Liz Cheney is America’s Margaret Thatcher.

    Liz Cheney is America’s Vidkun Quisling.

    My hope is that after this week it won’t matter which she is and that she will be in the dustbin.

    The View is probably already contacting her to be the new “conservative” punching bag for Whoopie and Joey.

    i.e., the dustbin.  :-)

    • #33
  4. Baker Inactive
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):

    If you think Cheney is mushy middle, your only guiding principle is fealty to one guy. That’s not good.

    You can argue she just shouldn’t say anything about Jan. 6 or the election but you can’t say she’s not conservative.

    You seem to miss the point that Wyoming is entitled to have her as their representative if THEY think she’s adequately representing their interests. For her to be in a party leadership position is a separate issue. Taking her out of the Party Chair position doesn’t send her packing back to Wyoming (or, more likely, Virginia). She likely got that position in the first place just because of the family name (which should be Perry anyway, in her case) not by great merit. But either way, she has no independent right to keep it.

    I’m not missing any point. The original post lumped her in with “mushy middle.” That’s just not true. 

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  5. Taras Coolidge
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Liz Cheney is America’s Margaret Thatcher.

    Liz Cheney is America’s Vidkun Quisling.

    My hope is that after this week it won’t matter which she is and that she will be in the dustbin.

    The View is probably already contacting her to be the new “conservative” punching bag for Whoopie and Joey.

    The thought has crossed my mind, more than once, that Never Trumpers  can be described as quislings — but not simply as an insult.

    Vidkun Quisling believed that Norway could never successfully resist the German onslaught, so collaboration was the best thing he could do for his country.  (His country, of course, took a dim view of this, after the war.)

    Similarly, some NT‘s may believe that it’s not possible to resist the power of Big Tech, but that they can preserve some influence by collaborating.

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  6. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Liz Cheney is America’s Margaret Thatcher.

    Liz Cheney is America’s Vidkun Quisling.

    My hope is that after this week it won’t matter which she is and that she will be in the dustbin.

    The View is probably already contacting her to be the new “conservative” punching bag for Whoopie and Joey.

    The thought has crossed my mind, more than once, that Never Trumpers can be described as quislings — but not simply as an insult.

    Vidkun Quisling believed that Norway could never successfully resist the German onslaught, so collaboration was the best thing he could do for his country. (His country, of course, took a dim view of this, after the war.)

    Similarly, some NT‘s may believe that it’s not possible to resist the power of Big Tech, but that they can preserve some influence by collaborating.

    Saruman might be a more adequate comparison. In fact, I think he says almost this exact thing.

    • #36
  7. kedavis Coolidge
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    Baker (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):

    If you think Cheney is mushy middle, your only guiding principle is fealty to one guy. That’s not good.

    You can argue she just shouldn’t say anything about Jan. 6 or the election but you can’t say she’s not conservative.

    You seem to miss the point that Wyoming is entitled to have her as their representative if THEY think she’s adequately representing their interests. For her to be in a party leadership position is a separate issue. Taking her out of the Party Chair position doesn’t send her packing back to Wyoming (or, more likely, Virginia). She likely got that position in the first place just because of the family name (which should be Perry anyway, in her case) not by great merit. But either way, she has no independent right to keep it.

    I’m not missing any point. The original post lumped her in with “mushy middle.” That’s just not true.

    I think others have already made the not-as-conservative-as-she-acts-or-as-others-think case quite well.

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  8. Gary Robbins Member
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    I am going to an On-Line “Rally for Liz” on Tuesday.  It is sponsored by “Principles First.”  

    I will keep y’all posted.  

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  9. kedavis Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am going to an On-Line “Rally for Liz” on Tuesday. It is sponsored by “Principles First.”

    I will keep y’all posted.

    Have a good time in the phone booth.

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  10. Hoyacon Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am going to an On-Line “Rally for Liz” on Tuesday. It is sponsored by “Principles First.”

    I will keep y’all posted.

    The website is rather lacking in information about who is behind “Principles First.”  I was only wondering who wouldn’t recognize that, if “principles” were what mattered (Edmund Burke, Adam Smith, etc.), Trump was a far superior choice to Biden.   Maybe it should be called “Principles Second,” or something.

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  11. Django Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am going to an On-Line “Rally for Liz” on Tuesday. It is sponsored by “Principles First.”

    I will keep y’all posted.

    The website is rather lacking in information about who is behind “Principles First.” I was only wondering who wouldn’t recognize that, if “principles” were what mattered (Edmund Burke, Adam Smith, etc.), Trump was a far superior choice to Biden. Maybe it should be called “Principles Second,” or something.

    FWIW, she has been endorsed by O. J. Simpson.

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  12. kedavis Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am going to an On-Line “Rally for Liz” on Tuesday. It is sponsored by “Principles First.”

    I will keep y’all posted.

    The website is rather lacking in information about who is behind “Principles First.” I was only wondering who wouldn’t recognize that, if “principles” were what mattered (Edmund Burke, Adam Smith, etc.), Trump was a far superior choice to Biden. Maybe it should be called “Principles Second,” or something.

    FWIW, she has been endorsed by O. J. Simpson.

    [rude comment voluntarily withheld]

    • #42
  13. Sisyphus Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am going to an On-Line “Rally for Liz” on Tuesday. It is sponsored by “Principles First.”

    I will keep y’all posted.

    The website is rather lacking in information about who is behind “Principles First.” I was only wondering who wouldn’t recognize that, if “principles” were what mattered (Edmund Burke, Adam Smith, etc.), Trump was a far superior choice to Biden. Maybe it should be called “Principles Second,” or something.

    FWIW, she has been endorsed by O. J. Simpson.

    [rude comment voluntarily withheld]

    Now you’re just playing coy.

    • #43
  14. kedavis Coolidge
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    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am going to an On-Line “Rally for Liz” on Tuesday. It is sponsored by “Principles First.”

    I will keep y’all posted.

    The website is rather lacking in information about who is behind “Principles First.” I was only wondering who wouldn’t recognize that, if “principles” were what mattered (Edmund Burke, Adam Smith, etc.), Trump was a far superior choice to Biden. Maybe it should be called “Principles Second,” or something.

    FWIW, she has been endorsed by O. J. Simpson.

    [rude comment voluntarily withheld]

    Now you’re just playing coy.

    It might have been something about looking for another victim but she’s already married.

    • #44
  15. Django Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am going to an On-Line “Rally for Liz” on Tuesday. It is sponsored by “Principles First.”

    I will keep y’all posted.

    The website is rather lacking in information about who is behind “Principles First.” I was only wondering who wouldn’t recognize that, if “principles” were what mattered (Edmund Burke, Adam Smith, etc.), Trump was a far superior choice to Biden. Maybe it should be called “Principles Second,” or something.

    FWIW, she has been endorsed by O. J. Simpson.

    [rude comment voluntarily withheld]

    Now you’re just playing coy.

    It might have been something about looking for another victim but she’s already married.

    He’s been single for a while, so regarding marriage, he might be ready to take another stab at it.

    • #45
  16. Sisyphus Member
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    Django (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am going to an On-Line “Rally for Liz” on Tuesday. It is sponsored by “Principles First.”

    I will keep y’all posted.

    The website is rather lacking in information about who is behind “Principles First.” I was only wondering who wouldn’t recognize that, if “principles” were what mattered (Edmund Burke, Adam Smith, etc.), Trump was a far superior choice to Biden. Maybe it should be called “Principles Second,” or something.

    FWIW, she has been endorsed by O. J. Simpson.

    [rude comment voluntarily withheld]

    Now you’re just playing coy.

    It might have been something about looking for another victim but she’s already married.

    He’s been single for a while, so regarding marriage, he might be ready to take another stab at it.

    Get back up on that bronco, as it were.

    • #46
  17. kedavis Coolidge
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    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am going to an On-Line “Rally for Liz” on Tuesday. It is sponsored by “Principles First.”

    I will keep y’all posted.

    The website is rather lacking in information about who is behind “Principles First.” I was only wondering who wouldn’t recognize that, if “principles” were what mattered (Edmund Burke, Adam Smith, etc.), Trump was a far superior choice to Biden. Maybe it should be called “Principles Second,” or something.

    FWIW, she has been endorsed by O. J. Simpson.

    [rude comment voluntarily withheld]

    Now you’re just playing coy.

    It might have been something about looking for another victim but she’s already married.

    He’s been single for a while, so regarding marriage, he might be ready to take another stab at it.

    Get back up on that bronco, as it were.

     

    • #47
  18. Taras Coolidge
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Liz Cheney is America’s Margaret Thatcher.

    Liz Cheney is America’s Vidkun Quisling.

    My hope is that after this week it won’t matter which she is and that she will be in the dustbin.

    The View is probably already contacting her to be the new “conservative” punching bag for Whoopie and Joey.

    The thought has crossed my mind, more than once, that Never Trumpers can be described as quislings — but not simply as an insult.

    Vidkun Quisling believed that Norway could never successfully resist the German onslaught, so collaboration was the best thing he could do for his country. (His country, of course, took a dim view of this, after the war.)

    Similarly, some NT‘s may believe that it’s not possible to resist the power of Big Tech, but that they can preserve some influence by collaborating.

    Saruman might be a more adequate comparison. In fact, I think he says almost this exact thing.

    Calling somebody a “Saruman” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.  

    Also, may be confused with “salaryman” (pronounced “sarariman”).

    • #48
  19. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Liz Cheney is America’s Margaret Thatcher.

    Liz Cheney is America’s Vidkun Quisling.

    My hope is that after this week it won’t matter which she is and that she will be in the dustbin.

    The View is probably already contacting her to be the new “conservative” punching bag for Whoopie and Joey.

    The thought has crossed my mind, more than once, that Never Trumpers can be described as quislings — but not simply as an insult.

    Vidkun Quisling believed that Norway could never successfully resist the German onslaught, so collaboration was the best thing he could do for his country. (His country, of course, took a dim view of this, after the war.)

    Similarly, some NT‘s may believe that it’s not possible to resist the power of Big Tech, but that they can preserve some influence by collaborating.

    Saruman might be a more adequate comparison. In fact, I think he says almost this exact thing.

    Calling somebody a “Saruman” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

    Also, may be confused with “salaryman” (pronounced “sarariman”).

    I think you and I hang out in very different circles. 

    • #49
  20. RufusRJones Member
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    W Bob (View Comment):
    But since the election security measures in many states are a joke, no one really knows who “really” won. It’s just as wrong to say that Biden “really” won as it is to say that he didn’t.

    This is my opinion. You take that, and the pandemic plus Zuckerberg and the Democrat lawfare and you have a gigantic mess.

    • #50
  21. RufusRJones Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am going to an On-Line “Rally for Liz” on Tuesday. It is sponsored by “Principles First.”

    I will keep y’all posted.

    The website is rather lacking in information about who is behind “Principles First.” I was only wondering who wouldn’t recognize that, if “principles” were what mattered (Edmund Burke, Adam Smith, etc.), Trump was a far superior choice to Biden. Maybe it should be called “Principles Second,” or something.

    The whole operation is tightly controlled and pretty secret, except for the convention they have in Washington D.C. Everybody around them gets money from Pierre Omidyar. The leaders old employer,Bain Capital, was a  heavy donor to The Lincoln Project. This leader, Heath Mayo is tight with one of the Lincoln Project principals. They got $90,000 in seed money from somewhere and I think they just go off of donations now.

    Their principles are just boilerplate GOP stuff. None of those people ever say anything very original or profound.

    • #51
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am going to an On-Line “Rally for Liz” on Tuesday. It is sponsored by “Principles First.”

    I will keep y’all posted.

    The website is rather lacking in information about who is behind “Principles First.” I was only wondering who wouldn’t recognize that, if “principles” were what mattered (Edmund Burke, Adam Smith, etc.), Trump was a far superior choice to Biden. Maybe it should be called “Principles Second,” or something.

    Everybody around them gets money from Pierre Omidyar. The leaders old employer,Bain Capital, was a heavy donor to The Lincoln Project. This leader, Heath Mayo is tight with one of the Lincoln Project principals. They got $90,000 in seed money from somewhere and I think they just go off of donations now.

    Their principles are just boilerplate GOP stuff. None of those people ever say anything very original or profound.

    Wasn’t Bain Capital Romney’s old outfit?

    • #52
  23. RufusRJones Member
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am going to an On-Line “Rally for Liz” on Tuesday. It is sponsored by “Principles First.”

    I will keep y’all posted.

    The website is rather lacking in information about who is behind “Principles First.” I was only wondering who wouldn’t recognize that, if “principles” were what mattered (Edmund Burke, Adam Smith, etc.), Trump was a far superior choice to Biden. Maybe it should be called “Principles Second,” or something.

    Everybody around them gets money from Pierre Omidyar. The leaders old employer,Bain Capital, was a heavy donor to The Lincoln Project. This leader, Heath Mayo is tight with one of the Lincoln Project principals. They got $90,000 in seed money from somewhere and I think they just go off of donations now.

    Their principles are just boilerplate GOP stuff. None of those people ever say anything very original or profound.

    Wasn’t Bain Capital Romney’s old outfit?

    Yes. 

     

    • #53
  24. RufusRJones Member
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    I made one edit to #51.

    • #54
  25. RufusRJones Member
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    I was thinking about it. Basically whatever Gary believes, people in Principles First believes it more. 

    They don’t see any problem with any of the institutions critical to democracy. The media, the FBI, the DOJ, the bureaucracy, education, the Fed. 

    They think that Nicholas Sandmann should be in prison.

    They believe in the Russia conspiracy more than Gary. The pee tapes and all of that stuff. Carter Page, Flynn et. al.  was just the cost of doing business. 

    Every single article about Trump’s business from his past they pump the hell out of it, even though the vast majority of these never go anywhere.

    Zero sensitivity to the mistakes made in trade, automation and monetary policy and how it fuels populism.

    They totally endorse masks and mask shaming.

    They are skeptical of the pandemic management in Florida and South Dakota etc. Pro Trump governor’s handling of the pandemic.

    They basically want to facilitate all of these Biden illegals coming in. They think all of the GOP governors should pitch in even if they don’t want to, which I think is nuts. They want more unskilled labor, even though we aren’t really set up for it.

    Rep. Devon Nunes is a horrible person.

    They never talk about finishing a war, or the consequences of not finishing a war. 

    They are on the side of “bake the cake”. 

    They babble about spending, but never say anything original about it.

    Even though Biden is going harder left than any president ever they think it nets out. They will say that.

    It’s an eighth grade civics class spewing out GOP boiler plate, basically.

    • #55
  26. Baker Inactive
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I was thinking about it. Basically whatever Gary believes, people in Principles First believes it more.

    They don’t see any problem with any of the institutions critical to democracy. The media, the FBI, the DOJ, the bureaucracy, education, the Fed.

    They think that Nicholas Sandmann should be in prison.

    They believe in the Russia conspiracy more than Gary. The pee tapes and all of that stuff. Carter Page, Flynn et. al.was just the cost of doing business.

    Every single article about Trump’s business from his past they pump the hell out of it, even though the vast majority of these never go anywhere.

    Zero sensitivity to the mistakes made in trade, automation and monetary policy and how it fuels populism.

    They totally endorse masks and mask shaming.

    They are skeptical of the pandemic management in Florida and South Dakota etc. Pro Trump governor’s handling of the pandemic.

    They basically want to facilitate all of these Biden illegals coming in. They think all of the GOP governors should pitch in even if they don’t want to, which I think is nuts. They want more unskilled labor, even though we aren’t really set up for it.

    Rep. Devon Nunes is a horrible person.

    They never talk about finishing a war, or the consequences of not finishing a war.

    They are on the side of “bake the cake”.

    They babble about spending, but never say anything original about it.

    Even though Biden is going harder left than any president ever they think it nets out. They will say that.

    It’s an eighth grade civics class spewing out GOP boiler plate, basically.

    Thanks for telling us what we think. I generally disagree with all that. Except the Devin Nunes bit. That’s definitely true. 

    • #56
  27. RufusRJones Member
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    Baker (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I was thinking about it. Basically whatever Gary believes, people in Principles First believes it more.

    They don’t see any problem with any of the institutions critical to democracy. The media, the FBI, the DOJ, the bureaucracy, education, the Fed.

    They think that Nicholas Sandmann should be in prison.

    They believe in the Russia conspiracy more than Gary. The pee tapes and all of that stuff. Carter Page, Flynn et. al.was just the cost of doing business.

    Every single article about Trump’s business from his past they pump the hell out of it, even though the vast majority of these never go anywhere.

    Zero sensitivity to the mistakes made in trade, automation and monetary policy and how it fuels populism.

    They totally endorse masks and mask shaming.

    They are skeptical of the pandemic management in Florida and South Dakota etc. Pro Trump governor’s handling of the pandemic.

    They basically want to facilitate all of these Biden illegals coming in. They think all of the GOP governors should pitch in even if they don’t want to, which I think is nuts. They want more unskilled labor, even though we aren’t really set up for it.

    Rep. Devon Nunes is a horrible person.

    They never talk about finishing a war, or the consequences of not finishing a war.

    They are on the side of “bake the cake”.

    They babble about spending, but never say anything original about it.

    Even though Biden is going harder left than any president ever they think it nets out. They will say that.

    It’s an eighth grade civics class spewing out GOP boiler plate, basically.

    Thanks for telling us what we think. I generally disagree with all that. Except the Devin Nunes bit. That’s definitely true.

    Are you actually a member? I’m just going by how Heath Mayo’s Twitter feed looks, the ones in Minnesota, and Gary. 

    What is your problem with Nunes?

    Did you go to the DC convention?

    • #57
  28. Jager Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I am going to an On-Line “Rally for Liz” on Tuesday. It is sponsored by “Principles First.”

    I will keep y’all posted.

    I wonder if this is actually helpful, I mean to Ms. Cheney.

    Her polling in Wyoming is not at all good. There is already a knock on her that she is not a “real” resident of Wyoming. She owns property and technically counts but is never really in the state. 

    At a certain point raising a bunch of campaign money from out of state can be a liability. 

    I can see the add now ” Beltway Liz doesn’t get the people of Wyoming. She thinks she can win this race by raking in money from Colorado and Ohio. She doesn’t know what the real people in this state want or think. Tell Liz outside money doesn’t control our elections vote for ……..” 

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  29. Taras Coolidge
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

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    Taras (View Comment):

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    Django (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Liz Cheney is America’s Margaret Thatcher.

    Liz Cheney is America’s Vidkun Quisling.

    My hope is that after this week it won’t matter which she is and that she will be in the dustbin.

    The View is probably already contacting her to be the new “conservative” punching bag for Whoopie and Joey.

    The thought has crossed my mind, more than once, that Never Trumpers can be described as quislings — but not simply as an insult.

    Vidkun Quisling believed that Norway could never successfully resist the German onslaught, so collaboration was the best thing he could do for his country. (His country, of course, took a dim view of this, after the war.)

    Similarly, some NT‘s may believe that it’s not possible to resist the power of Big Tech, but that they can preserve some influence by collaborating.

    Saruman might be a more adequate comparison. In fact, I think he says almost this exact thing.

    Calling somebody a “Saruman” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

    Also, may be confused with “salaryman” (pronounced “sarariman”).

    I think you and I hang out in very different circles.

    The great thing about “quisling” is that it sounds awful even if you don’t know what it means.

    Also, it’s become a generally accepted common noun.

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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    What is your problem with Nunes

    Two quickies, one, he was once a Boehner loyalist and has now joined the “establishment is evil” crowd. And two, dude sues cows and parody accounts on social media. That’s ridiculous. What he has done to Liz Mair is outrageous. 

    https://www.fresnobee.com/news/politics-government/article245625375.html

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