Liz Cheney: Fingernails on a Chalkboard?

 

You can’t possibly be as tired as I am at listening to and watching the media push Rep. Liz Cheney around like a woman in the center of a dodge ball game. As she becomes the only one left standing, she’s clearly not the winner, and it’s annoying and could be destructive to the Republican Party’s future.

Cheney is apparently prepared to play this fiddle as long as she can. She seems enraptured by The Big Lie, and every time the media asks her about it, she continues to embarrass herself. And I can’t figure out what she is trying to accomplish.

Is she determined to win this verbal/media war with Trump, at the risk of alienating her colleagues in the House?

Is she willing to be removed from leadership the Republican Conference Chair as the price she will pay?

Does she really think she’s being “picked on” because she voted for Trump’s impeachment? (So did 10 other Republicans, some in leadership positions, and none of them were penalized.)

Does she think that any publicity, good or bad, is worth her efforts?

Do you think she’s preparing for a Presidential run in 2024?

Or has she become so obsessed with Trump that she has simply lost her mind?

Meanwhile, her actions are being promoted by the media that like to say the Republican caucus is in chaos.

It’s not. So will the impact of her stand be forgotten in a couple of weeks?

Or could she be doing some serious damage?

It’s time to get on board, Liz, or step down while you still have an ounce of dignity.

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  1. Hang On Member
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    @HangOn

    The John Anderson of 2024 maybe while Biden becomes the new Jimmy Carter as he lays the basis of his demise while others are in control. I think she is looking at a potential big pot of money while being a martyr because of Trump while being a media darling pushing a narrative of deep Republican division. Biden has made the deep state angry by pulling out of Afghanistan. There will be retribution if he does something that goes against their interests.

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  2. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    @SusanQuinn

    Hang On (View Comment):

    The John Anderson of 2024 maybe while Biden becomes the new Jimmy Carter as he lays the basis of his demise while others are in control. I think she is looking at a potential big pot of money while being a martyr because of Trump while being a media darling pushing a narrative of deep Republican division. Biden has made the deep state angry by pulling out of Afghanistan. There will be retribution if he does something that goes against their interests.

    Can you think of any high profile Republican backers who would help her? I guess they’d have to hate Trump a lot!

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  3. philo Member
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    @philo

    I can do no better that to just combine my last two comments on the subject:

    Consider everything she has done since mid-January as pre-negotiations for her pay at the next job and it all makes sense. (Her PR team is earning their money on this one. NOTE: They are dictating everything you are reading about her today.) … … … More likely: Lobbyist and/or multiple corporate boards…daddy’s connections will pay off hugely. 

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  4. Hang On Member
    Hang On
    @HangOn

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    The John Anderson of 2024 maybe while Biden becomes the new Jimmy Carter as he lays the basis of his demise while others are in control. I think she is looking at a potential big pot of money while being a martyr because of Trump while being a media darling pushing a narrative of deep Republican division. Biden has made the deep state angry by pulling out of Afghanistan. There will be retribution if he does something that goes against their interests.

    Can you think of any high profile Republican backers who would help her? I guess they’d have to hate Trump a lot!

    Koch. I think it will also be people like Blumenthal. Business people who are forces unto themselves. They will become disenchanted with Biden as he fails. 

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  5. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    @SusanQuinn

    philo (View Comment):

    I can do no better that to just combine my last two comments on the subject:

    Consider everything she has done since mid-January as pre-negotiations for her pay at the next job and it all makes sense. (Her PR team is earning their money on this one. NOTE: They are dictating everything you are reading about her today.) … … … More likely: Lobbyist and/or multiple corporate boards…daddy’s connections will pay off hugely.

    Ugly, ugly, ugly. That’s politics for you.

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  6. kedavis Member
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    @kedavis

    Hang On (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    The John Anderson of 2024 maybe while Biden becomes the new Jimmy Carter as he lays the basis of his demise while others are in control. I think she is looking at a potential big pot of money while being a martyr because of Trump while being a media darling pushing a narrative of deep Republican division. Biden has made the deep state angry by pulling out of Afghanistan. There will be retribution if he does something that goes against their interests.

    Can you think of any high profile Republican backers who would help her? I guess they’d have to hate Trump a lot!

    Koch. I think it will also be people like Blumenthal. Business people who are forces unto themselves. They will become disenchanted with Biden as he fails.

    We could have told them over a year ago that he would fail.  Biden always fails, in the end.

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  7. Vince Guerra Member
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    Susan Quinn: She seems enraptured by The Big Lie,

    She was deceived and then punked over seems enraptured by  The Big Lie.

    There, FIFY.

    It’s time to get on board, Liz, or step down while you still have an ounce of dignity.

    That ship sailed months ago. Some people are unteachable.

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  8. Gary Robbins Reagan
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Liz Cheney is America’s Margaret Thatcher.  She took the only principled stance she could after Trump’s Big Lie, and then the Capitol Riot.  Unlike others who have fallen away, she has held her ground.  There will come a day, likely after Trump’s indictment and conviction, when Trump will be perceived by Republicans and Conservatives with disgust and distain.  And Republicans and Conservatives will remember who, quietly but firmly, stood strong against Trump.  Will it be in 2024?  Or will it be in 2028?  But put me down for $500 on Liz Cheney.  This is a mountain worthy of dying on.  

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  9. EHerring Coolidge
    EHerring
    @EHerring

    I have no sympathy for her. She is just getting a taste of her own medicine. 

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  10. Vince Guerra Member
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra
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  11. Vince Guerra Member
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Liz Cheney is America’s Margaret Thatcher. She took the only principled stance she could after Trump’s Big Lie, and then the Capitol Riot. Unlike others who have fallen away, she has held her ground. There will come a day, likely after Trump’s indictment and conviction, when Trump will be perceived by Republicans and Conservatives with disgust and distain. And Republicans and Conservatives will remember who, quietly but firmly, stood strong against Trump. Will it be in 2024? Or will it be in 2028? But put me down for $500 on Liz Cheney. This is a mountain worthy of dying on.

    Leave it to Gary to get it exactly opposite. 

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  12. EHerring Coolidge
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    There is pithy, and then there is real pithy. 

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  13. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    Leave it to Gary to get it exactly opposite. 

    You do realize your responding to him is an invitation, don’t you?

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  14. JustmeinAZ Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Liz Cheney is America’s Margaret Thatcher.

    Oh, gag me!

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  15. Stad Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Liz Cheney is America’s Margaret Thatcher.

    Liz Cheney is the Republican’s Chelsea Handler . . .

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  16. Goldgeller Member
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    I’m of mixed minds on this. On one hand: she can’t be a leader in the party if people have lost trust in her, on the other: the election wasn’t stolen and a good percentage of Republican voters will need to let that go and move on.

    I get it: she’s in leadership and journos can always get a soundbite from her at will about something that really irritates Republicans: the election and the riot on Jan 6. Republicans want to get past that and Cheney keeps playing that game. For a variety of reasons it’s tone deaf strategy to give the media what they want because she personally will not shame anyone into changing their minds because people see her as tone deaf and assisting biased political operatives. So I see the argument for why she can’t be in leadership. I’m leaning towards agreeing.

    At the same time, it’s tough because Trump did lose the election. His saying that the election was stolen probably also contributed to losing the Senate. Congressional Rs need to stop playing footsie with the fraud claims. I realize this will upset some of their constituents who are angry at the election and the way rules were changed for COVID. But Trump really did lose. It would be nice to think we can ignore the issue and it will go away but the media won’t let us– so we have to diffuse it and crush it. We can’t fight each other.

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  17. Kevin Schulte Member
    Kevin Schulte
    @KevinSchulte

    Is it possible she just doesn’t like her carrier and is scuttling it. Then enjoying the sparks of the process. While insuring endearment from the Gary end of the party (hello down there).

    Just spit balling. 

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  18. Franco Member
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    @Franco

    Missing in the post is Cheney’s connection to the deep state, notably the CIA. Who doesn’t understand that daddy’s network hasn’t been inherited by dizzy miss Lizzy?

    Who can’t see how much of the anti-Trump fervor was originating from Intel agencies?

    (BTW Intel agencies control the mainstream media.)

    She is much more than a congresscritter or a 3rd in line leader, or a conservative. She’s an operative of her network, her friends and allies. 

    We are living in an age where ‘politics’ is more a cover than a motivation. Power in DC is held by people who are not politicians- even Presidents must bend to their will. Usually Presidents are preapproved by the deep state, or quickly put in place ( Obama did not close Gitmo, or withdraw troops or change fundamental US policy)

    Trump was unexpected. Hillary was preapproved and expected. We see what happens to a President who goes against their wishes.

    Other people are running the country now. 

    I just learned this lesson during the past few years and am passing it on to whoever thinks partisan politics matters in certain areas.

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  19. E. Kent Golding Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Liz Cheney is America’s Margaret Thatcher.

    Liz Cheney is the Republican’s Chelsea Handler . . .

    Chelsea Clinton.

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  20. Gary Robbins Reagan
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Stad (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Liz Cheney is America’s Margaret Thatcher.

    Liz Cheney is the Republican’s Chelsea Handler . . .

    Who is that?

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  21. Gary Robbins Reagan
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Liz Cheney is America’s Margaret Thatcher.

    Liz Cheney is the Republican’s Chelsea Handler . . .

    Chelsea Clinton.

    Gotcha.  Thanks.

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  22. kedavis Member
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Goldgeller (View Comment):

    I’m of mixed minds on this. On one hand: she can’t be a leader in the party if people have lost trust in her, on the other: the election wasn’t stolen and a good percentage of Republican voters will need to let that go and move on.

    I get it: she’s in leadership and journos can always get a soundbite from her at will about something that really irritates Republicans: the election and the riot on Jan 6. Republicans want to get past that and Cheney keeps playing that game. For a variety of reasons it’s tone deaf strategy to give the media what they want because she personally will not shame anyone into changing their minds because people see her as tone deaf and assisting biased political operatives. So I see the argument for why she can’t be in leadership. I’m leaning towards agreeing.

    At the same time, it’s tough because Trump did lose the election. His saying that the election was stolen probably also contributed to losing the Senate. Congressional Rs need to stop playing footsie with the fraud claims. I realize this will upset some of their constituents who are angry at the election and the way rules were changed for COVID. But Trump really did lose. It would be nice to think we can ignore the issue and it will go away but the media won’t let us– so we have to diffuse it and crush it. We can’t fight each other.

    Please do yourself, and all the rest of us, a favor by keeping up with the growing mountains of evidence of fraud.

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  23. kedavis Member
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    @kedavis

    Kevin Schulte (View Comment):

    Is it possible she just doesn’t like her carrier and is scuttling it. Then enjoying the sparks of the process. While insuring endearment from the Gary end of the party (hello down there).

    Just spit balling.

    Well, if she just wanted to not be in Congress any more, that can be done easily.  She either wants to move on to a media gig for some other reason, or maybe she just sees that as paying better if she gets on their “right” side.

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  24. Gary Robbins Reagan
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    Leave it to Gary to get it exactly opposite.

    You do realize your responding to him is an invitation, don’t you?

    You do realize that posting about Liz Cheney is an invitation for me to file a comment, don’t you?

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  25. W Bob Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Gary, I think the future is not one of the old liberal-conservative dichotomy, but rather radical progressivism vs. conservative populism. If that’s true, where does Liz Cheney fit on that spectrum? The populist leader, if it’s not going to be Trump, needs to be someone who nevertheless captures his appeal to the Trump base. You do realize the Republican Party doesnt exist without that base right? Frankly I hope Trump doesn’t come back, but whoever is going to take his place…it’s not going to be Liz Cheney. 

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  26. kedavis Member
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    @kedavis

    W Bob (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Gary, I think the future is not one of the old liberal-conservative dichotomy, but rather radical progressivism vs. conservative populism. If that’s true, where does Liz Cheney fit on that spectrum? The populist leader, if it’s not going to be Trump, needs to be someone who nevertheless captures his appeal to the Trump base. You do realize the Republican Party doesnt exist without that base right? Frankly I hope Trump doesn’t come back, but whoever is going to take his place…it’s not going to be Liz Cheney.

    Of course not, it’ll be Michael Wood!  You know, that guy who got 3% of the vote in a Texas district, coming in behind 4 Democrats?

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  27. Gary Robbins Reagan
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    W Bob (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Gary, I think the future is not one of the old liberal-conservative dichotomy, but rather radical progressivism vs. conservative populism. If that’s true, where does Liz Cheney fit on that spectrum? The populist leader, if it’s not going to be Trump, needs to be someone who nevertheless captures his appeal to the Trump base. You do realize the Republican Party doesnt exist without that base right? Frankly I hope Trump doesn’t come back, but whoever is going to take his place…it’s not going to be Liz Cheney.

    I reject both radical progressive and conservative populism.  I am working for the resurgence of the Party of Reagan.  

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  28. Gary Robbins Reagan
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    I think that Kevin Williamson got it right at NR:

    Purges for Unity

    Why are Republicans dumping Liz Cheney, who just won reelection, as an act of symbolic fealty to Donald Trump, who just lost?

    You guys know he lost, right?

    Representative Liz Cheney (R., Wyo.) is (probably) being pushed out of her leadership position, most likely in favor of Representative Elise Stefanik (R., N.Y.), because Representative Cheney is insufficiently Trump-loving and Stefanik is superabundantly Trump-loving.

    It’s that familiar Republican strategy: a purge for unity.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/05/purges-for-unity/

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  29. kedavis Member
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    @kedavis

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    W Bob (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Gary, I think the future is not one of the old liberal-conservative dichotomy, but rather radical progressivism vs. conservative populism. If that’s true, where does Liz Cheney fit on that spectrum? The populist leader, if it’s not going to be Trump, needs to be someone who nevertheless captures his appeal to the Trump base. You do realize the Republican Party doesnt exist without that base right? Frankly I hope Trump doesn’t come back, but whoever is going to take his place…it’s not going to be Liz Cheney.

    I reject both radical progressive and conservative populism. I am working for the resurgence of the Party of Reagan.

    You still don’t get, or are in denial, that Reagan was a populist.

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  30. Vince Guerra Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    Leave it to Gary to get it exactly opposite.

    You do realize your responding to him is an invitation, don’t you?

    Sorry, I poke bears for a living. 

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