Don’t Buy RepubliCan’t Posturing

 

red green capitalWe are supposed to be shocked, shocked! We should be, but at the cynical purveyors of another story spun to deflect from full force electoral pressure on the House and Senate RepubliCan’t Conferences. Shame on Katie Pavlich at Townhall for playing their game in “Wait, That’s How the FBI Labeled the Attempted Assassination of Republicans on a Baseball Field?” The FBI willfully, falsely categorized the 2017 leftist premeditated mass-assassination attempt, targeting Republican senators and congressmen, as “suicide by cop.” J. Edgar’s boys continued their corrupt culture by brazenly ignoring left-wing deadly political violence, part of cooking their books against the forgotten Americans, against whose champions the FBI was already in full seek-and-destroy mode in 2017. So, we should be outraged.

And.

If you read past the headlines and tweets, you find a very inconvenient truth. The Congressional RepubliCAN’Ts had this information almost immediately, as the FBI brazenly briefed its lies in November 2017. Calling the FBI on its fraud, on its failure to honestly characterize and so focus resources on actual threats to Republican members of Congress, would have threatened the Russia hoax and RepubliCAN’T leader collusion with Democrats in seeking to undo or at least stifle the forgotten Americans’ electoral command, expressed in their shocking 2016 victory. So, it did not matter that Congressman Scalise was nearly killed and going through a series of surgeries, with a long and painful rehabilitation ahead of him. What mattered was protecting Speaker Lyin’ Ryan as he colluded with Democrats and Mitch and the Gang over in the Senate to defy the American people and bring them back to heel as mere election pawns in the Crony Capitalism game.

How brazen is this bunch? How stupid do they think we are? See for yourself. Here is the relevant passage in the original Politico story, “Lawmakers reveal — and dispute — FBI conclusion about 2017 baseball field shooting,” in which a Republican congressman fesses up to having the facts way back in 2017, when it could have been weaponized for the American people against the Deep State, the Swamp:

Rep. Brad Wenstrup (R-Ohio) revealed the previously undisclosed determination during a hearing of the House Intelligence Committee on Thursday, upbraiding FBI Director Christopher Wray and prompting several colleagues of both parties to pile on. He said FBI agents privately briefed the baseball team on Nov. 16, 2017 to deliver the controversial determination.

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The FBI never publicly disclosed its final conclusions about the June 14, 2017, shooting. In an interim update just a week later, investigators said the gunman had made numerous social media posts supporting left-wing causes and backing candidates like Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), but the bureau also noted that it found no evidence of threats to GOP lawmakers or the baseball team on the gunman’s devices. Wenstrup’s comments are the first public references that the FBI concluded the shooting was a “suicide by cop.”

That day, a lone gunman, James Hodgkinson, unloaded dozens of rounds at GOP lawmakers practicing on an Alexandria, Va., field for the annual congressional baseball game. After asking one lawmaker whether the team was the Republicans or Democrats, Hodgkinson returned to his van — which had been stationed outside the field for weeks — pulled out two firearms and began shooting at the team, narrowly missing Rep. Trent Kelly (R-Miss.) before hitting Scalise in the hip, which nearly led to him bleeding to death on the field. Scalise required multiple surgeries and weeks in the hospital before recovering and returning to Congress.

So. Spare us your false posturing of conveniently belated outrage, Doc Wenstrup. Steve Scalise, stifle yourself. Senator Rand Paul, you were there, so you were presumably in on the FBI briefing. Where was your tweetstorm? Where is the hot video clip where you called out the FBI? You knew. You knew and chose to back Lyin’ Ryan and the whole rotten bunch over the truth, the Constitution, and the American people. Oh, and Katie Pavlich, shame on you for being a willing tool in this game. You included the incriminating Politico paragraph, but gave the current bunch of congressional RepubliCan’ts a complete pass, raising not a single question about the 3-1/2-year delay of this false outrage.

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  1. philo Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Wray did not directly address [Congressman] Wenstrup’s criticism, other than to confirm he was not the FBI director at the time — a role held in June 2017 by Andrew McCabe …

    In other words, the FBI’s opinion, during the few months the corrupt hack Andrew McCabe was Acting Director, simply wasn’t very important.

    An “interesting” (trying to be nice) interpretation of the exchange.

    Taras (View Comment):
    This is a tempest in a teapot.

    Are you talking about the silliness at the FBI or the posturing that is the point of the post? Either way…

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  2. WI Con Member
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    I read both articles. I trust Sen. Rand Paul and feel he’s “one of the good guys”. I didn’t notice in reading those articles that the FBI, though they “breifed the 2017 victims of the shooting”, that they gave them their conclusion at that time, that this was “suicide by cop”. I think we would have heard from Rand Paul and Scalise earlier if they had tried to pass that pathetic finding off earlier.

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  3. CACrabtree Coolidge
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    Sigh…sometimes I pine for the good old days of J. Edgar and his pink tutu.

    As for Ryan and his predecessor John Boehner, the old saying, “Not a pair between’em” seems particularly relevant.

    Throw in Mitch too ….

    I suppose “Not a pair among’em” works just as well…

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  4. CACrabtree Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    OK, so these Republican squishes are no good.

    What are we supposed to do about it? Undermine them, so the Dems get a bigger majority? It is quite a pickle.

    If you can’t primary them, then start a third party. Polls suggest that a third party that was Trump-like in its policy positions would have more following than the GOP.

    Right. That worked out so well with TR and Taft . . .

    Mitch was the one who declared war. Punching the Tea Party in the nose and backing fossil Thad in Mississipppi over rising star Chris McDaniel. Muck Fitch.

    “Remember Mississippi!” should be the battle cry. I’m a Kentucky native and I’m embarrassed for my state. Why do they keep re-electing that POS?

    I’m guessing that when the choice came between Mitch and Amy McGrath (or Alison Lundergan Grimes), Kentuckians didn’t have much of a choice.  

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  5. Django Member
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    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    OK, so these Republican squishes are no good.

    What are we supposed to do about it? Undermine them, so the Dems get a bigger majority? It is quite a pickle.

    If you can’t primary them, then start a third party. Polls suggest that a third party that was Trump-like in its policy positions would have more following than the GOP.

    Right. That worked out so well with TR and Taft . . .

    Mitch was the one who declared war. Punching the Tea Party in the nose and backing fossil Thad in Mississipppi over rising star Chris McDaniel. Muck Fitch.

    “Remember Mississippi!” should be the battle cry. I’m a Kentucky native and I’m embarrassed for my state. Why do they keep re-electing that POS?

    I’m guessing that when the choice came between Mitch and Amy McGrath (or Alison Lundergan Grimes), Kentuckians didn’t have much of a choice.

    Yeah, it was probably political suicide for some up-and-coming GOP member to primary him. Once it was him or a Demo-rat, voters didn’t have a real choice. 

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  6. Rōnin Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    OK, so these Republican squishes are no good.

    What are we supposed to do about it? Undermine them, so the Dems get a bigger majority? It is quite a pickle.

    I believe that’s why we have primaries. No guarantee that approach will work, but I don’t see another.

    The ballot box is all we have.  After that it’s no longer rule by consent of the voters, but rule of the strongest.  This is how civilizations end.

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  7. Hang On Member
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    Rōnin (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    OK, so these Republican squishes are no good.

    What are we supposed to do about it? Undermine them, so the Dems get a bigger majority? It is quite a pickle.

    I believe that’s why we have primaries. No guarantee that approach will work, but I don’t see another.

    The ballot box is all we have. After that it’s no longer rule by consent of the voters, but rule of the strongest. This is how civilizations end.

    Or how they are renewed.

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  8. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    OK, so these Republican squishes are no good.

    What are we supposed to do about it? Undermine them, so the Dems get a bigger majority? It is quite a pickle.

    If you can’t primary them, then start a third party. Polls suggest that a third party that was Trump-like in its policy positions would have more following than the GOP.

    Right. That worked out so well with TR and Taft . . .

    More accurately, it worked out so well for the new Republican Party versus the Whigs versus the Democrats. If the RepubliCAN’Ts are determined to go the way of the Whigs, we need a new party vehicle in real opposition to the social Democrat party.

    I’m guessing, Mr. Brown is a Georgia voter who stayed home for the Senate runoff as a “protest” …

    Add the 2020 Libertarian Party vote to Trump’s vote and you have an Electoral College tie. Which makes me want to see who’s financing the L.P. these days!

    Non sequitur. Pro tip: click on a member’s avatar and you get their profile. Most of us have filled in some helpful details, unlike your blank one. Everyone knows I have lived in Arizona since the 1990s. So your comment immediately falls flat. 

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  9. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

    This episode falls into context when we read what I would consider to be the most important part of the Townhall column, which Mr. Brown did not quote:

    “Director, you want suicide by cop, you just pull a gun on a cop. It doesn’t take 136 rounds. It takes one bullet. Both the DHS and the (Office of the Director of National Intelligence) published products labeling this attack as a domestic violent extremism event, specifically targeting Republican members of Congress. The FBI did not.”

    Wray did not directly address [Congressman] Wenstrup’s criticism, other than to confirm he was not the FBI director at the time — a role held in June 2017 by Andrew McCabe …

    In other words, the FBI’s opinion, during the few months the corrupt hack Andrew McCabe was Acting Director, simply wasn’t very important.

    This is a tempest in a teapot.

    It is critically important that the FBI, which has the horsepower, the agents, the guns, is not willfully mis-characterizing left wing political terrorist attacks. ODNI has no significant investigative resources. DHS ground troops are mostly customs, immigration and border security. Yes, they have the Secret Service, but that agency only protects the executive. The Capital Police were providing the protective detail to Steve Scalise, and the U.S. Marshals protect judges and courts. 

    Wray is evading responsibility rather than clearly stating that the assessment was fraudulent and that names had been taken and that ugly consequences had followed for the fraudsters (McCabe did not create the fraud himself). Wray is actually affirming the rotten politicized core of his agency, consistent with his conduct since his appointment.

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  10. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    WI Con (View Comment):

    I read both articles. I trust Sen. Rand Paul and feel he’s “one of the good guys”. I didn’t notice in reading those articles that the FBI, though they “breifed the 2017 victims of the shooting”, that they gave them their conclusion at that time, that this was “suicide by cop”. I think we would have heard from Rand Paul and Scalise earlier if they had tried to pass that pathetic finding off earlier.

    Here is the relevant passage from the Politico article, emphasis added:

    Rep. Brad Wenstrup (R-Ohio) revealed the previously undisclosed determination during a hearing of the House Intelligence Committee on Thursday, upbraiding FBI Director Christopher Wray and prompting several colleagues of both parties to pile on. He said FBI agents privately briefed the baseball team on Nov. 16, 2017 to deliver the controversial determination.

    “Much to our shock that day, the FBI concluded that this was a case of the attacker seeking suicide by cop,” Wenstrup said. “Director, you want suicide by cop, you just pull a gun on a cop. It doesn’t take 136 rounds. It takes one bullet. Both the DHS and the (Office of the Director of National Intelligence) published products labeling this attack as a domestic violent extremism event, specifically targeting Republican members of Congress. The FBI did not.”

    So, it was on 16 November 2017 that the FBI briefed the “baseball team” members “the controversial determination” that “this was a case of the attacker seeking suicide by cop.”

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  11. DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone Member
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    Rōnin (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    OK, so these Republican squishes are no good.

    What are we supposed to do about it? Undermine them, so the Dems get a bigger majority? It is quite a pickle.

    I believe that’s why we have primaries. No guarantee that approach will work, but I don’t see another.

    The ballot box is all we have.

    The Democrats have made sure we don’t even have that anymore.

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  12. Django Member
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    DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone (View Comment):

    Rōnin (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    OK, so these Republican squishes are no good.

    What are we supposed to do about it? Undermine them, so the Dems get a bigger majority? It is quite a pickle.

    I believe that’s why we have primaries. No guarantee that approach will work, but I don’t see another.

    The ballot box is all we have.

    The Democrats have made sure we don’t even have that anymore.

    Unless my elementary school history teacher lied to me, the country was born in violence. It’s a reasonable question to ask whether it can be sustained only through violence at this point. 

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  13. Taras Coolidge
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    OK, so these Republican squishes are no good.

    What are we supposed to do about it? Undermine them, so the Dems get a bigger majority? It is quite a pickle.

    If you can’t primary them, then start a third party. Polls suggest that a third party that was Trump-like in its policy positions would have more following than the GOP.

    Right. That worked out so well with TR and Taft . . .

    More accurately, it worked out so well for the new Republican Party versus the Whigs versus the Democrats. If the RepubliCAN’Ts are determined to go the way of the Whigs, we need a new party vehicle in real opposition to the social Democrat party.

    I’m guessing, Mr. Brown is a Georgia voter who stayed home for the Senate runoff as a “protest” …

    Add the 2020 Libertarian Party vote to Trump’s vote and you have an Electoral College tie. Which makes me want to see who’s financing the L.P. these days!

    Non sequitur. Pro tip: click on a member’s avatar and you get their profile. Most of us have filled in some helpful details, unlike your blank one. Everyone knows I have lived in Arizona since the 1990s. So your comment immediately falls flat.

    That was a — pointed — wisecrack, about you being a Georgia voter who helped the Democrats take over the Senate, out of pique.  It wasn’t intended to be taken literally.

    The point was, like the LP, you’re the kind of conservative that progressives dream of, assisting their divide-and-rule strategy.  This is how, to give just one example, the Bolsheviks took over the Russian Empire, by getting their opponents to fight among themselves — instead of uniting against the Bolsheviks!

    Incidentally, I don’t think I’ve ever looked at anybody’s profile.  Why should I?  People’s ideas will stand or fall based on the quality of those ideas.  I’m just not very interested in what people choose to put in their, er, dating profiles.

     

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  14. CACrabtree Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone (View Comment):

    Rōnin (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    OK, so these Republican squishes are no good.

    What are we supposed to do about it? Undermine them, so the Dems get a bigger majority? It is quite a pickle.

    I believe that’s why we have primaries. No guarantee that approach will work, but I don’t see another.

    The ballot box is all we have.

    The Democrats have made sure we don’t even have that anymore.

    Unless my elementary school history teacher lied to me, the country was born in violence. It’s a reasonable question to ask whether it can be sustained only through violence at this point.

    Oh, don’t worry.  It’s going to get worse; much worse…

    https://nypost.com/2021/04/23/get-set-for-dangerous-critical-race-theory-in-every-school-in-america/

    In a sense, this is the same kind of bull&%$# that was in yesterday’s post about Disneyworld.  There seems to be no way to get away from it.

    It may very well be that violence will be the only way to put a stop to it.  Just sayin’.

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  15. Django Member
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    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone (View Comment):

    Rōnin (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    OK, so these Republican squishes are no good.

    What are we supposed to do about it? Undermine them, so the Dems get a bigger majority? It is quite a pickle.

    I believe that’s why we have primaries. No guarantee that approach will work, but I don’t see another.

    The ballot box is all we have.

    The Democrats have made sure we don’t even have that anymore.

    Unless my elementary school history teacher lied to me, the country was born in violence. It’s a reasonable question to ask whether it can be sustained only through violence at this point.

    Oh, don’t worry. It’s going to get worse; much worse…

    https://nypost.com/2021/04/23/get-set-for-dangerous-critical-race-theory-in-every-school-in-america/

    In a sense, this is the same kind of bull&%$# that was in yesterday’s post about Disneyworld. There seems to be no way to get away from it.

    It may very well be that violence will be the only way to put a stop to it. Just sayin’.

    Orson Welles in The Third Man

    Don’t be so gloomy. After all it’s not that awful. You know what the fellow said – in Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace – and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly.

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  16. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    OK, so these Republican squishes are no good.

    What are we supposed to do about it? Undermine them, so the Dems get a bigger majority? It is quite a pickle.

    If you can’t primary them, then start a third party. Polls suggest that a third party that was Trump-like in its policy positions would have more following than the GOP.

    Right. That worked out so well with TR and Taft . . .

    More accurately, it worked out so well for the new Republican Party versus the Whigs versus the Democrats. If the RepubliCAN’Ts are determined to go the way of the Whigs, we need a new party vehicle in real opposition to the social Democrat party.

    I’m guessing, Mr. Brown is a Georgia voter who stayed home for the Senate runoff as a “protest” …

    Add the 2020 Libertarian Party vote to Trump’s vote and you have an Electoral College tie. Which makes me want to see who’s financing the L.P. these days!

    Non sequitur. Pro tip: click on a member’s avatar and you get their profile. Most of us have filled in some helpful details, unlike your blank one. Everyone knows I have lived in Arizona since the 1990s. So your comment immediately falls flat.

     

    The point was, like the LP, you’re the kind of conservative that progressives dream of, assisting their divide-and-rule strategy. This is how, to give just one example, the Bolsheviks took over the Russian Empire, by getting their opponents to fight among themselves — instead of uniting against the Bolsheviks!

    Nonsense. You are the kind of conservative progressives most appreciate, ensuring the Republican Party continues to play its fake opposition role. The Bolsheviks won because they had a disciplined group of hard boys, a ruthless paramilitary, and faced an indecisive liberal government and larger socialist opposition. The Republican Party will reform and really fight or will become irrelevant and replaced.

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  17. Boss Mongo Member
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    Taras (View Comment):
    The point was, like the LP, you’re the kind of conservative that progressives dream of, assisting their divide-and-rule strategy.

    You think Mr. Brown is the “kind of conservative that progressives dream of?”

    I got some beach-front property, ironically in Arizona, I will sell you cheap.

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  18. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):
    The Republican Party will reform and really fight or will become irrelevant and replaced.

    They’re not interested in reform, why should they be? They’ve done mighty well for themselves by reliably bending over and have thus already become irrelevant. 

    With election outcomes now baked into the cake (see above) replacing them via the ballot box is off the table too. I’m becoming more and more convinced that it’s now left to the lowest county and state-level law enforcement/courts to reestablish the balance of freedom and the rule of law, the Feds be damned. 

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  19. Taras Coolidge
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    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    The point was, like the LP, you’re the kind of conservative that progressives dream of, assisting their divide-and-rule strategy.

    You think Mr. Brown is the “kind of conservative that progressives dream of?”

    I got some beach-front property, ironically in Arizona, I will sell you cheap.

    You know as well as I do that leftist plutocrats subsidized Never-Trump conservatives  because their activities helped the Democrats win.  At this juncture, anyone who divides the conservative movement is useful to the Left.

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  20. Taras Coolidge
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    OK, so these Republican squishes are no good.

    What are we supposed to do about it? Undermine them, so the Dems get a bigger majority? It is quite a pickle.

    If you can’t primary them, then start a third party. Polls suggest that a third party that was Trump-like in its policy positions would have more following than the GOP.

    Right. That worked out so well with TR and Taft . . .

    More accurately, it worked out so well for the new Republican Party versus the Whigs versus the Democrats. If the RepubliCAN’Ts are determined to go the way of the Whigs, we need a new party vehicle in real opposition to the social Democrat party.

    I’m guessing, Mr. Brown is a Georgia voter who stayed home for the Senate runoff as a “protest” …

    Add the 2020 Libertarian Party vote to Trump’s vote and you have an Electoral College tie. Which makes me want to see who’s financing the L.P. these days!

    Non sequitur. Pro tip: click on a member’s avatar and you get their profile. Most of us have filled in some helpful details, unlike your blank one. Everyone knows I have lived in Arizona since the 1990s. So your comment immediately falls flat.

     

    The point was, like the LP, you’re the kind of conservative that progressives dream of, assisting their divide-and-rule strategy. This is how, to give just one example, the Bolsheviks took over the Russian Empire, by getting their opponents to fight among themselves — instead of uniting against the Bolsheviks!

    Nonsense. You are the kind of conservative progressives most appreciate, ensuring the Republican Party continues to play its fake opposition role. The Bolsheviks won because they had a disciplined group of hard boys, a ruthless paramilitary, and faced an indecisive liberal government and larger socialist opposition. The Republican Party will reform and really fight or will become irrelevant and replaced.

    My mother’s eyes would shine when she recalled tales of the Ukrainian peasant anarchist, Nestor Makhno, that were told to her in whispers as she was growing up near Kiev after the Revolution.  But of course it was hard to get Ukrainian peasant anarchists to fight alongside Russian aristocrat monarchists:

    “It was this lack of unity that the Bolsheviks were able to exploit, [anticommunist] White armies often fought each other …”

    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100901184056AA9kn8Z

    To call the Republicans a “fake opposition” is to say that the Democrats were — secretly? — opposed to the nomination of Merrick Garland, and — secretly? — in favor of Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett.  And Republicans must have been for DC and Puerto Rico statehood all along, as well as for packing the Court.  

    Obviously you didn’t think this through.

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  21. Boss Mongo Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

    To call the Republicans a “fake opposition” is to say that the Democrats were — secretly? — opposed to the nomination of Merrick Garland, and — secretly? — in favor of Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett.  And Republicans must have been for DC and Puerto Rico statehood all along, as well as for packing the Court.  

    Obviously you didn’t think this through.

    Obviously, you didn’t work to make your argument intelligible.  And, it seems, you are conflating “conservative” and Republican.

    We’ve seen some conservatives in the Republican Party who are unabashed.  We’ve seen lots of Republicans who don’t mind losing slowly.  Who don’t mind the country slipping ever more leftward, but slowly.

    Also, from your not very intelligible argument, you miss the fact that most Republicans see the Democrats as political opponents.  Democrats see Republicans as their evil enemy.

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  22. Taras Coolidge
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    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    To call the Republicans a “fake opposition” is to say that the Democrats were — secretly? — opposed to the nomination of Merrick Garland, and — secretly? — in favor of Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett. And Republicans must have been for DC and Puerto Rico statehood all along, as well as for packing the Court.

    Obviously you didn’t think this through.

    Obviously, you didn’t work to make your argument intelligible. And, it seems, you are conflating “conservative” and Republican.

    We’ve seen some conservatives in the Republican Party who are unabashed. We’ve seen lots of Republicans who don’t mind losing slowly. Who don’t mind the country slipping ever more leftward, but slowly.

    Also, from your not very intelligible argument, you miss the fact that most Republicans see the Democrats as political opponents. Democrats see Republicans as their evil enemy.

    Sorry I wasn’t clearer.

    A “fake opposition” is not really in opposition.  It only pretends to want different things from the other side.  If the Republicans are a fake opposition, they and the Democrats must actually be working for the same things.

    My point is, this is obviously untrue, at least some of the time; and I gave a few examples that show this.

    That sometimes, some Republicans (e.g., Liz Cheney) are working for the other side is obviously true; but that doesn’t make Republicans a fake opposition.  Yes, 10 Republican Congressmen voted for impeachment, but 200 voted against.

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