Breaking: Chauvin Found Guilty on All 3 Counts

 

Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin has been found guilty on all three charges in the death of George Floyd.

The jury declared Chauvin guilty of second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter. Although the first charge is punishable by up to 40 years in prison, Minnesota sentencing guidelines begin at 12 1/2 years for a defendant with no criminal history.

Downtown Minneapolis is mostly boarded up and being patrolled by a large contingent of National Guard. Many were uneasy about the verdict, fearing riots worse than those experienced after Floyd’s death, not only in Minnesota but across the country.

Chauvin’s lawyers are expected to appeal, especially with concerns about comments from Rep. Maxine Waters, who seemed to be encouraging violence if the verdict was not guilty. President Joe Biden and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey both prejudged the case and made public statements that there was only one right verdict. Local press published extensive information about each juror before the decision was reached.

 

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  1. Chet Ross Member
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    This was totally predictable — Certainly because of the biased  and inflammatory comments by Biden and Waters, but even more so because virtually every media outlet had been calling this “the murder of . . .” instead of “the death of . . .” for months before the trial. Chauvin was prejudged and much of the general public biased by the media before any evidence or defense was presented. 

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  2. JustmeinAZ Member
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    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    Jager (View Comment):

    Only one person died, how is this cop guilty of three different types on murder in one act.

    That’s what I was thinking. I thought the multiple charges were to let the jury decide which one. if any. is appropriate. How does this work in MN?

    According to Scott Johnson at Powerline he will be sentenced on the most serious charge.

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  3. kedavis Coolidge
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    It’s a shame how many members I’ve seen claim that they never bother with the Main Feed, which means they’ll never see this thread.

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  4. Henry Racette Member
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    I really didn’t follow the case closely, so I won’t opine as to the verdict. However, it’s clear that the venue was unfair, and like most I anticipate a retrial elsewhere. I think it would be a great injustice if he didn’t get another day in court.

    This will, I expect, be the summer blockbuster for 2021.

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  5. MarciN Member
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    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: Local press published extensive information about each juror before the decision was reached.

    I can’t believe this is legal. The juror and his or her family would be completely intimidated by this information being made public.

     

     

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  6. JamesSalerno Inactive
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: Local press published extensive information about each juror before the decision was reached.

    I can’t believe this is legal. The juror and his or her family would be completely intimidated by this information being made public.

     

     

    I Googled “Chauvin verdict” right before it was announced, and the juror information was the first thing that came up. Disgusting. 

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  7. Front Seat Cat Member
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    I have not been following this case and didn’t watch the whole nine minutes of incriminating footage. I just got an email on my phone from Glenn Beck radio that someone involved in the case found a dead pig’s head on his doorstep. Why weren’t the jurors sequestered and their identities protected?   If justice has been served, this should end right? Not.

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  8. W Bob Member
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    Caryn (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.:

    Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin has been found guilty on all three charges in the death of George Floyd.

    The jury declared Chauvin guilty of second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter. Although the first charge is punishable by up to 40 years in prison, Minnesota sentencing guidelines begin at 12 1/2 years for a defendant with no criminal history.

    Downtown Minneapolis is mostly boarded up and being patrolled by a large contingent of National Guard. Many were uneasy about the verdict, fearing riots worse than those experienced after Floyd’s death, not only in Minnesota but across the country.

    Chauvin’s lawyers are expected to appeal, especially with concerns about comments from Rep. Maxine Waters, who seemed to be encouraging violence if the verdict was not guilty. President Joe Biden and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey both prejudged the case and made public statements that there was only one right verdict. Local press published extensive information about each juror before the decision was reached.

    The most significant point. How is this even legal? Every member of the jury had to feel personally threatened. How is that not jury intimidation? Seems like there are MANY grounds for appeal. It’s been teetering for a while, but we no longer have a system of justice.

     

    And the jurors were allowed to keep their phones during the supposedly sequestered deliberations.

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  9. Henry Racette Member
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    I didn’t riot when OJ Simpson got away with murdering his wife, and I won’t riot regardless of the outcome of the final Chauvin trial. I guess I’m just not the rioting sort.

    But I also won’t join Speaker Pelosi in canonizing the drug-addled thug who died while in Chauvin’s custody, and in implicitly encouraging others to follow in his footsteps. Her comments remind me of those who celebrate Palestinian suicide bombers. It’s barbaric.

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  10. W Bob Member
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    Raxxalan (View Comment):

    I don’t feel like justice was done in this case. I feel like the mob and elites howled for blood and they were appeased by a fearful jury. It may not have been the case; however, it is how I feel right now. I don’t think it is possible to have equal justice under the law anymore. I don’t know what that means for the country going forward but I know it won’t be good.

    When the Aztecs sacrificed a human to their gods, they just imagined that it was doing them some good. But with this human sacrifice, you can actually feel the sigh of relief across the country at the very real avoidance of disaster that has been accomplished. 

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  11. The Reticulator Member
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    Kozak (View Comment):
    Don’t count on any court to reverse the decision.  Not after what we’ve seen since November.

    Don’t count on it. But work on it.  

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  12. Joker Member
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    I can barely believe some of the opinions I am hearing in the aftermath of  the decision. Pelosi said that Floyd’s name will forever be associated with justice. Everybody seems to agree with the outcome, saying that the jury has done what we all agree is the right thing. Obama helpfully confirmed that police across the country treat blacks differently than whites. Profiles in leadership.

    Seems like Mr Floyd has no agency. That he took a lethal amount of recreational drugs with a serious heart condition is aparently not his fault. He passed a counterfiet bill and resisted arrest. If he skips one of those things, he survives the night. Maybe. Evidently, none of Mr Floyd’s actions matter in these cases, he’s practically being treated like a helpless bystander. As far as Chauvin goes, he’s got about the same outcome as he would if he just grabbed a random pedstrian and shot him.

    Ok, now we can get back to the cannonization. 

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  13. JamesSalerno Inactive
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    Kamala Harris announcing a new George Floyd memorial police reform bill….

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  14. Jimmy Carter Member
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    I just threw bricks through My windows and torched My Neighbor’s house.

    Is that how it’s done in the name of justice? 

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  15. kedavis Coolidge
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    I wonder how many people are finding out their insurance doesn’t cover riots?

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  16. JamesSalerno Inactive
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    Biden’s speech was disgusting and he showed why he has no business being in a position of authority. Truly an awful human being.

    George Floyd was just a man trying to get home safe after going grocery shopping. Let’s ignore all personal agency and responsibility. We are on the verge of a full cultural collapse. If you live in one of these Democrat-run sewers, get out now. It’s going to get much worse.

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  17. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    No surprise on this.  White cops need to quit or more of this is going to happen

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  18. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Architectus (View Comment):

    Next step, the appeals…

    Yeah, that is not going to happen.  A Left law system is not going to let this man out.  The Left wants him jailed and that is the way it is going to be.  If they do not get him this way they will get him another

    https://minnesotareformer.com/2020/07/22/derek-chauvin-charged-with-tax-fraud-in-washington-county/

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  19. JamesSalerno Inactive
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    No surprise on this. White cops need to quit or more of this is going to happen

    We need to remember that this will set precedent for future cases.

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  20. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Why did we bother to have a trial since we all knew this was going to be the result no matter what.  

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  21. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    No surprise on this. White cops need to quit or more of this is going to happen

    They don’t have to quit quit.  They can choose to wait for backup.  If a perp wants to run, let ’em.    Stick to writing tickets against people that drive newish luxury cars.  

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  22. Architectus Coolidge
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Caryn (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.:

    Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin has been found guilty on all three charges in the death of George Floyd.

    The jury declared Chauvin guilty of second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter. Although the first charge is punishable by up to 40 years in prison, Minnesota sentencing guidelines begin at 12 1/2 years for a defendant with no criminal history.

    Downtown Minneapolis is mostly boarded up and being patrolled by a large contingent of National Guard. Many were uneasy about the verdict, fearing riots worse than those experienced after Floyd’s death, not only in Minnesota but across the country.

    Chauvin’s lawyers are expected to appeal, especially with concerns about comments from Rep. Maxine Waters, who seemed to be encouraging violence if the verdict was not guilty. President Joe Biden and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey both prejudged the case and made public statements that there was only one right verdict. Local press published extensive information about each juror before the decision was reached.

    The most significant point. How is this even legal? Every member of the jury had to feel personally threatened. How is that not jury intimidation? Seems like there are MANY grounds for appeal. It’s been teetering for a while, but we no longer have a system of justice.

     

     

    Don’t count on any court to reverse the decision. Not after what we’ve seen since November.

    Maybe there can be a change of venue, to Guam? It’s a US territory, and he MIGHT get a fair retrial. At least the Antifa/BLM crowd will have trouble harassing the jurors. 

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  23. Architectus Coolidge
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    Raxxalan (View Comment):

    I don’t feel like justice was done in this case. I feel like the mob and elites howled for blood and they were appeased by a fearful jury. It may not have been the case; however, it is how I feel right now. I don’t think it is possible to have equal justice under the law anymore. I don’t know what that means for the country going forward but I know it won’t be good.

    Look into the case of Conrad Black, about our justice system. Horrifying. 

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  24. Architectus Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):
    Don’t count on any court to reverse the decision.

    Chauvin won’t live long enough to appeal this. One day, in a few months, he will be “accidentally” put into GenPop or some night he will “hang himself”. Think about wheelchair-bound Whitey Bulger. He threatened to squeal on Comey and he was “accidentally” transferred to a different prison and wheeled out to the un-observed corner of the courtyard where he was promptly killed–oops! Chauvin will get killed and politicians will have washed their hands of the situation.

    Wouldn’t it have been easier if Chauvin had “committed suicide” before – or even during – the trial? Like what (didn’t) happen to Epstein?

    No, no, no.  The show trial must come first. And like in 1984, it is not enough to disappear the “guilty”, they must reform first. 

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  25. kedavis Coolidge
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Why did we bother to have a trial since we all knew this was going to be the result no matter what.

    It sounds perfectly Cardassian.

     

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  26. Architectus Coolidge
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: Local press published extensive information about each juror before the decision was reached.

    I can’t believe this is legal. The juror and his or her family would be completely intimidated by this information being made public.

     

     

    Isn’t it funny how the press can dig for facts, when they want to, and when it will hurt innocent people? 

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  27. Architectus Coolidge
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    W Bob (View Comment):

    Raxxalan (View Comment):

    I don’t feel like justice was done in this case. I feel like the mob and elites howled for blood and they were appeased by a fearful jury. It may not have been the case; however, it is how I feel right now. I don’t think it is possible to have equal justice under the law anymore. I don’t know what that means for the country going forward but I know it won’t be good.

    When the Aztecs sacrificed a human to their gods, they just imagined that it was doing them some good. But with this human sacrifice, you can actually feel the sigh of relief across the country at the very real avoidance of disaster that has been accomplished.

    Do you really believe that any disaster has been avoided here, rather than simply delayed? 

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  28. JamesSalerno Inactive
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    Architectus (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: Local press published extensive information about each juror before the decision was reached.

    I can’t believe this is legal. The juror and his or her family would be completely intimidated by this information being made public.

     

     

    Isn’t it funny how the press can dig for facts, when they want to, and when it will hurt innocent people?

    Funny how we still don’t know anything about the cop who shot Ashli Babbitt. Not even a name.

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  29. Hoyacon Member
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    In another age, members of the criminal appellate bar would be stepping up to take Chauvin’s appeal–even pro bono.  These would be very good lawyers, unlike Chauvin’s trial attorney.  

    But where are they?  Why they’re being told by the partners to avoid the hot potato.  Let’s see if a few brave ones step up.

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  30. Architectus Coolidge
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    In another age, members of the criminal appellate bar would be stepping up to take Chauvin’s appeal–even pro bono. These would be very good lawyers, unlike Chauvin’s trial attorney.

    But where are they? Why they’re being told by the partners to avoid the hot potato. Let’s see if a few brave ones step up.

    They are holding out so that they can defend the next illegal alien terrorist suspect. 

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