Breaking: Chauvin Found Guilty on All 3 Counts

 

Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin has been found guilty on all three charges in the death of George Floyd.

The jury declared Chauvin guilty of second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter. Although the first charge is punishable by up to 40 years in prison, Minnesota sentencing guidelines begin at 12 1/2 years for a defendant with no criminal history.

Downtown Minneapolis is mostly boarded up and being patrolled by a large contingent of National Guard. Many were uneasy about the verdict, fearing riots worse than those experienced after Floyd’s death, not only in Minnesota but across the country.

Chauvin’s lawyers are expected to appeal, especially with concerns about comments from Rep. Maxine Waters, who seemed to be encouraging violence if the verdict was not guilty. President Joe Biden and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey both prejudged the case and made public statements that there was only one right verdict. Local press published extensive information about each juror before the decision was reached.

 

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  1. JamesSalerno Coolidge
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    This is insanity.

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  2. Bob Armstrong Thatcher
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    Not a good day for the rule of law.

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  3. Architectus Coolidge
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    Next step, the appeals…

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  4. Jager Coolidge
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    Only one person died, how is this cop guilty of three different types on murder in one act.

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  5. Hoyacon Member
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    Utterly predictable, if unjust.

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  6. Kozak Member
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    Every cop in Minneapolis should quit today.

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  7. Kozak Member
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    So whats the excuse going to be for the Nike shopping tonight?

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  8. kedavis Member
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Every cop in Minneapolis Minnesota should quit today.

    There you go.

    And that’s actually still just the minimum.

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  9. Kozak Member
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  10. kedavis Member
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    Jager (View Comment):

    Only one person died, how is this cop guilty of three different types on murder in one act.

    I could see that being some kind of signal from the jury: “We don’t believe this BS, but we’re not going to be blamed for the city burning.”

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  11. Caryn Thatcher
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    Jon Gabriel, Ed.:

    Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin has been found guilty on all three charges in the death of George Floyd.

    The jury declared Chauvin guilty of second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter. Although the first charge is punishable by up to 40 years in prison, Minnesota sentencing guidelines begin at 12 1/2 years for a defendant with no criminal history.

    Downtown Minneapolis is mostly boarded up and being patrolled by a large contingent of National Guard. Many were uneasy about the verdict, fearing riots worse than those experienced after Floyd’s death, not only in Minnesota but across the country.

    Chauvin’s lawyers are expected to appeal, especially with concerns about comments from Rep. Maxine Waters, who seemed to be encouraging violence if the verdict was not guilty. President Joe Biden and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey both prejudged the case and made public statements that there was only one right verdict. Local press published extensive information about each juror before the decision was reached.

    The most significant point.  How is this even legal?  Every member of the jury had to feel personally threatened.  How is that not jury intimidation?  Seems like there are MANY grounds for appeal.  It’s been teetering for a while, but we no longer have a system of justice.  

     

     

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  12. Kozak Member
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    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: President Joe Biden and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey both prejudged the case and made public statements that there was only one right verdict.

                                       

                                                                                                          Joe Stolen

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  13. Raxxalan Member
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    I don’t feel like justice was done in this case.  I feel like the mob and elites howled for blood and they were appeased by a fearful jury.  It may not have been the case; however, it is how I feel right now.  I don’t think it is possible to have equal justice under the law anymore.  I don’t know what that means for the country going forward but I know it won’t be good.

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  14. kedavis Member
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: President Joe Biden and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey both prejudged the case and made public statements that there was only one right verdict.

    Joe Stolen

    Saved for later…

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  15. Eugene Kriegsmann Member
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    From the things I saw and listened to during the trial, I could not decide on his guilt or innocence. However, I am more than certain that the actions by Maxine Waters and Joe Biden during the last couple of days amount to a clear case for repeal and retrial in a different venue. I thought that the treatment of George Zimmerman was appalling during his trial, but this exceeds the worst behavior I have seen by political leaders in my life in terms of interference with a criminal trial. Though, somehow, I am unsurprised.

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  16. Full Size Tabby Member
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    In some places the attorneys in the case are permitted to interview the jurors individually to find out what of the attorney’s presentation of the case was persuasive and what wasn’t. If permitted here I’m sure the attorneys will be trying to find out if the prospect of violence influenced the decisions of any particular juror. I would not have been able to sit on such a jury and decide fairly, knowing that if I decide one way my house, my neighbors’ houses, and my neighbors’ businesses would be destroyed and that my family might be killed.

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  17. Kozak Member
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    Caryn (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.:

    Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin has been found guilty on all three charges in the death of George Floyd.

    The jury declared Chauvin guilty of second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter. Although the first charge is punishable by up to 40 years in prison, Minnesota sentencing guidelines begin at 12 1/2 years for a defendant with no criminal history.

    Downtown Minneapolis is mostly boarded up and being patrolled by a large contingent of National Guard. Many were uneasy about the verdict, fearing riots worse than those experienced after Floyd’s death, not only in Minnesota but across the country.

    Chauvin’s lawyers are expected to appeal, especially with concerns about comments from Rep. Maxine Waters, who seemed to be encouraging violence if the verdict was not guilty. President Joe Biden and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey both prejudged the case and made public statements that there was only one right verdict. Local press published extensive information about each juror before the decision was reached.

    The most significant point. How is this even legal? Every member of the jury had to feel personally threatened. How is that not jury intimidation? Seems like there are MANY grounds for appeal. It’s been teetering for a while, but we no longer have a system of justice.

     

     

    Don’t count on any court to reverse the decision.  Not after what we’ve seen since November.

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  18. W Bob Member
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    Maybe ineffective assistance of counsel?

    Floyd had a fatal OD in his system and was complaining that he couldn’t breathe before he was placed on the ground. Reasonable doubt right there. The lawyer apparently was afraid that highlighting the complaint of being unable to breathe may have backfired and been viewed by the jury as triggering a duty by the cops to handle Floyd more carefully, including not to kneel on his neck. Fair enough. He called a witness who said that cops are taught that if you can talk, you can breathe. Several times as they were trying to restrain Floyd the cops were saying that he’s ok because he’s talking. This was obviously an effort to clear Chauvin of culpability. 

    But surely it’s wrong that merely being able to say “I can’t breathe” means you actually are having no trouble breathing. That’s just absurd. And he could have called any number of medical witness who could have backed that up.

    The result would have been to lessen Chauvin’s culpability (by pointing out the training he had received) while at the same time making it clear that Floyd could have been telling the truth when he said he couldn’t breathe. And that this would have been consistent with an OD. 

    Assuming of course the jury hadn’t already made their mind up. 

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  19. Manny Member
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    Seems like a complete over conviction. He somewhat contributed to the death, but Floyd bears a large part of the responsibility. What can I tell you. There’s a split in this country in how we view fundamental things. 

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  20. Vince Guerra Member
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    This is why you should have fought against the election fraud. This is the what you get when evidence and facts no longer matter. 

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  21. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge
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    Kozak (View Comment):
    Don’t count on any court to reverse the decision.

    Chauvin won’t live long enough to appeal this.  One day, in a few months, he will be “accidentally” put into GenPop or some night he will “hang himself”.   Think about wheelchair-bound Whitey Bulger.  He threatened to squeal on Comey and he was “accidentally” transferred to a different prison and wheeled out to the un-observed corner of the courtyard where he was promptly killed–oops!   Chauvin will get killed and politicians will have washed their hands of the situation. 

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  22. Doug Watt Moderator
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    I’m not surprised by the verdict. I’m not surprised by the number of people, to include Joe Biden and Mad Maxine who weighed in before a verdict was reached.

    If you’re going to defund the police, based upon 18 Black men and women that were killed by police officers in the last year across the the United States then the very least that can be done is to spend that money on PSA’s (Public Service Announcements) that warn people that resisting arrest can lead to serious physical injury, or death.

    We have a cultural problem in the United States, and resisting arrest is part of that problem.

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  23. 9thDistrictNeighbor Member
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    Open season on police in 3-2-1.

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  24. JamesSalerno Coolidge
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    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    From the things I saw and listened to during the trial, I could not decide on his guilt or innocence. However, I am more than certain that the actions by Maxine Waters and Joe Biden during the last couple of days amount to a clear case for repeal and retrial in a different venue. I thought that the treatment of George Zimmerman was appalling during his trial, but this exceeds the worst behavior I have seen by political leaders in my life in terms of interference with a criminal trial. Though, somehow, I am unsurprised.

    Biden deserves to be impeached over this. If this is not grounds for impeachment, I don’t know what is.

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  25. kedavis Member
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    JamesSalerno (View Comment):

     

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    From the things I saw and listened to during the trial, I could not decide on his guilt or innocence. However, I am more than certain that the actions by Maxine Waters and Joe Biden during the last couple of days amount to a clear case for repeal and retrial in a different venue. I thought that the treatment of George Zimmerman was appalling during his trial, but this exceeds the worst behavior I have seen by political leaders in my life in terms of interference with a criminal trial. Though, somehow, I am unsurprised.

    Biden deserves to be impeached over this. If this is not grounds for impeachment, I don’t know what is.

    Deserves to be, yes.  Will be, of course not.  Just for starters, the House is still – barely – majority Democrat.  But even if it were solid majority Republican I doubt it would happen.

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  26. Unsk Member
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    Kozak:” Every cop in Minneapolis should quit today.”

    I think one could extrapolate that thought to every major police force in every urban area in the country.

    To be a cop is to now be pre-judged a criminal based upon the flimiest of evidence in a kangaroo court if something ever goes wrong on your beat. A totally intolerable situation for the police. 

    I have thought since it became apparent that the election was stolen that our criminal justice system would be totally corrupted in short order by the Traitor Elite and it has. An honest man or woman cannot work in that system, anymore, without facing some really bad choices where there are no good answers.   As a result there will be no more police protection in many areas soon, and then the woke may find that there is no one to defend them anymore from the reprisals for their treachery. 

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  27. kedavis Member
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    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):
    Don’t count on any court to reverse the decision.

    Chauvin won’t live long enough to appeal this. One day, in a few months, he will be “accidentally” put into GenPop or some night he will “hang himself”. Think about wheelchair-bound Whitey Bulger. He threatened to squeal on Comey and he was “accidentally” transferred to a different prison and wheeled out to the un-observed corner of the courtyard where he was promptly killed–oops! Chauvin will get killed and politicians will have washed their hands of the situation.

    Wouldn’t it have been easier if Chauvin had “committed suicide” before – or even during – the trial?  Like what (didn’t) happen to Epstein?

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  28. Jim George Member
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    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    From the things I saw and listened to during the trial, I could not decide on his guilt or innocence. However, I am more than certain that the actions by Maxine Waters and Joe Biden during the last couple of days amount to a clear case for repeal and retrial in a different venue. I thought that the treatment of George Zimmerman was appalling during his trial, but this exceeds the worst behavior I have seen by political leaders in my life in terms of interference with a criminal trial. Though, somehow, I am unsurprised.

    You have set forth a perfect, short, concise statement of the reason he should have been found not guilty. We have allowed one segment of our society to now reach the height of their power over America by the use of raw violence and intimidation that they have, in effect, dictated a verdict in an American Court of Law.  The rule of law that I have loved and, I hope, served for the better part of a lifetime has been so severely battered over the past few decades I am wondering if it can ever fully recover. 

    It pains me deeply to say this, but after the past few years and now capped off by this disgrace in the Chauvin trial, my fear is that we may have lost that lofty ideal forever. I pray I’m wrong. 

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  29. Vance Richards Member
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    Jager (View Comment):

    Only one person died, how is this cop guilty of three different types on murder in one act.

    That’s what I was thinking. I thought the multiple charges were to let the jury decide which one. if any. is appropriate. How does this work in MN?

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  30. Vince Guerra Member
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    Jim George (View Comment):
    It pains me deeply to say this, but after the past few years and now capped off by this disgrace in the Chauvin trial, my fear is that we may have lost that lofty ideal forever. I pray I’m wrong. 

    It’s becoming clearer and clearer that the only justice is that which God commands. Every day magnifies how only He is true. 

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