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  1. Baker Inactive
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    Wow.

    I came over to ol Ricochet to give a boost to how ridiculously good the latest GLOP was. Haven’t looked at comments in some time. It is something.

    From David Axelrod: “Here’s the problem for the GOP. A majority of Republicans love Trump and a majority of Americans really do not.”

    Republicans have won one popular vote since 1988. Doubling (tripling?) down on this ain’t it.

    By which you mean…. what?

    I mean things are a wreck and are not going to get better if CPAC is illustrative of where we are headed.

    If you’re suggesting that Trump or whoever needs to be more like Biden to win in 2024, I think Django for one pointed out why that doesn’t really work.

    That’s not what I’m suggesting. But the idea that empathy or decorum are for losers or RINOs, that’s not going to improve things. I am in Georgia, a state that along with Arizona was solidly red in 2014. Both states now have two Democrat senators. That was not an accident. 

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  2. kedavis Coolidge
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    Wow.

    I came over to ol Ricochet to give a boost to how ridiculously good the latest GLOP was. Haven’t looked at comments in some time. It is something.

    From David Axelrod: “Here’s the problem for the GOP. A majority of Republicans love Trump and a majority of Americans really do not.”

    Republicans have won one popular vote since 1988. Doubling (tripling?) down on this ain’t it.

    By which you mean…. what?

    I mean things are a wreck and are not going to get better if CPAC is illustrative of where we are headed.

    If you’re suggesting that Trump or whoever needs to be more like Biden to win in 2024, I think Django for one pointed out why that doesn’t really work.

    That’s not what I’m suggesting. But the idea that empathy or decorum are for losers or RINOs, that’s not going to improve things. I am in Georgia, a state that along with Arizona was solidly red in 2014. Both states now have two Democrat senators. That was not an accident.

    Maybe not an accident, but conservatism has plenty of empathy, it’s just not the “gimme” type of “empathy” found on the left, which seems to be getting more and more popular.  Especially as Democrats at various levels – perhaps even including as governors and legislatures of other states which cause problems that wash over other states too including Georgia – set things up for ever-increasing government dependency.

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  3. namlliT noD Member
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    Baker (View Comment):
    I am in Georgia, a state that along with Arizona was solidly red in 2014. Both states now have two Democrat senators. That was not an accident. 

    I’ll say!

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  4. Skyler Coolidge
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    Baker (View Comment):
    That was not an accident.

    No, it certainly wasn’t.  It took perfidy of establishment republicans turning a blind eye to democrat ballot box stuffing.

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  5. Baker Inactive
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

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    I am in Georgia, a state that along with Arizona was solidly red in 2014. Both states now have two Democrat senators. That was not an accident.

    I’ll say!

    Ahh… so we’re still refusing to admit what happened happened. 

    Until we do, what’s happening will keep happening. Virginia is Arizona is Georgia is…Texas? North Carolina? 

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  6. Stina Member
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    Baker (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):
    I am in Georgia, a state that along with Arizona was solidly red in 2014. Both states now have two Democrat senators. That was not an accident.

    I’ll say!

    Ahh… so we’re still refusing to admit what happened happened.

    Until we do, what’s happening will keep happening. Virginia is Arizona is Georgia is…Texas? North Carolina?

    Yes… it would appear you are refusing to admit what happened.

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  7. kedavis Coolidge
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    Baker (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):
    I am in Georgia, a state that along with Arizona was solidly red in 2014. Both states now have two Democrat senators. That was not an accident.

    I’ll say!

    Ahh… so we’re still refusing to admit what happened happened.

    Until we do, what’s happening will keep happening. Virginia is Arizona is Georgia is…Texas? North Carolina?

    I expect the next move by the Dems for upcoming elections will be to have “votes” getting “counted” at locations without cameras.

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  8. Flicker Coolidge
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    I think the speech was primarily an apology for a continued, renewed and redirected Republican party.  Trump supported the Republican Party early in his speech, then gave examples of what he, and the Republicans did right, and then challenged GOPe Republicans to get on board or be primaried out.

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  9. kedavis Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    I think the speech was primarily an apology for a continued, renewed and redirected Republican party. Trump supported the Republican Party early in his speech, then gave examples of what he, and the Republicans did right, and then challenged GOPe Republicans to get on board or be primaried out.

    I hope it works.  That they do get on board, or get primaried out.

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  10. Stina Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):
    I am in Georgia, a state that along with Arizona was solidly red in 2014. Both states now have two Democrat senators. That was not an accident.

    I’ll say!

    Ahh… so we’re still refusing to admit what happened happened.

    Until we do, what’s happening will keep happening. Virginia is Arizona is Georgia is…Texas? North Carolina?

    I expect the next move by the Dems for upcoming elections will be to have “votes” getting “counted” at locations without cameras.

    It’s to protect the identity of voters. Mail in ballot envelopes have names on them, doncha know.

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  11. kedavis Coolidge
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):
    I am in Georgia, a state that along with Arizona was solidly red in 2014. Both states now have two Democrat senators. That was not an accident.

    I’ll say!

    Ahh… so we’re still refusing to admit what happened happened.

    Until we do, what’s happening will keep happening. Virginia is Arizona is Georgia is…Texas? North Carolina?

    I expect the next move by the Dems for upcoming elections will be to have “votes” getting “counted” at locations without cameras.

    It’s to protect the identity of voters. Mail in ballot envelopes have names on them, doncha know.

    The Left – or many people in the leadership, at least – seem to admire France so much, they need to follow France’s latest lead and ban mail-in voting completely.

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  12. namlliT noD Member
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    Baker (View Comment):
    That’s not what I’m suggesting. But the idea that empathy or decorum are for losers or RINOs, that’s not going to improve things.

    Huh…

    What do you mean by that?  Who said empathy or decorum is for losers? 

    And what do you mean by “empathy” in this context?  Where does that come from?

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  13. Stina Member
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):
    That’s not what I’m suggesting. But the idea that empathy or decorum are for losers or RINOs, that’s not going to improve things.

    Huh…

    What do you mean by that? Who said empathy or decorum is for losers?

    And what do you mean by “empathy” in this context? Where does that come from?

    Empathy always seems to be employed towards the left and the utmost decorum afforded to the left. But RINOs can never manage to scrap up any empathy for their base or afford them decorum.

    If compassion is always afforded to the left and never the right, perhaps they aren’t actually on the right.

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  14. Baker Inactive
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):
    That’s not what I’m suggesting. But the idea that empathy or decorum are for losers or RINOs, that’s not going to improve things.

    Huh…

    What do you mean by that? Who said empathy or decorum is for losers?

    And what do you mean by “empathy” in this context? Where does that come from?

    One example just off the top of my head. Just even the smallest recognition that Covid has killed hundreds of thousands of people and their families are crushed, that would have been good. Instead, we turned Covid into a culture war. 

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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    What do you mean by that? Who said empathy or decorum is for losers?

    Regarding this part of your question, that is the undeniable message coming from many on the right lately. There was a literal riot at the capitol and DJT Jr is talking about how those RINOs are okay with just “losing gracefully.” 

    Losing gracefully and not rioting is kind of the definition of democracy. 

    *and before everybody piles in about the summer riots – yes, those were also very anti-democratic but they were not in the one, single building that is identified with our function of government more than any other, nor were they during an event that is core to that function. And whether people admit it or not, the distance in people’s minds between Joe Biden and people burning down stuff in Portland is a lot further than the distance from DJT to the rioters at the capitol. 

     

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  16. namlliT noD Member
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    Baker (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):
    That’s not what I’m suggesting. But the idea that empathy or decorum are for losers or RINOs, that’s not going to improve things.

    Huh…

    What do you mean by that? Who said empathy or decorum is for losers?

    And what do you mean by “empathy” in this context? Where does that come from?

    One example just off the top of my head. Just even the smallest recognition that Covid has killed hundreds of thousands of people and their families are crushed, that would have been good. Instead, we turned Covid into a culture war.

    Huh?   I don’t know understand what you’re talking about.  Who did what?

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  17. Skyler Coolidge
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    Baker (View Comment):

    Losing gracefully and not rioting is kind of the definition of democracy. 

     

    The “riot” was engineered by leftists acting through highly trained agents provacateur.  Any large gathering, malevolently and purposefully directed, is prone to act as directed.  The “riot” was not a riot, by the way, very little violence occurred. I’m not excusing any misbehavior, but on the scale set by anti-fa across the country last year, that one was petty.

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  18. Django Member
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):
    That’s not what I’m suggesting. But the idea that empathy or decorum are for losers or RINOs, that’s not going to improve things.

    Huh…

    What do you mean by that? Who said empathy or decorum is for losers?

    And what do you mean by “empathy” in this context? Where does that come from?

    One example just off the top of my head. Just even the smallest recognition that Covid has killed hundreds of thousands of people and their families are crushed, that would have been good. Instead, we turned Covid into a culture war.

    Huh? I don’t know understand what you’re talking about. Who did what?

    I don’t understand it either. 

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  19. namlliT noD Member
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    Baker (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    What do you mean by that? Who said empathy or decorum is for losers?

    Regarding this part of your question, that is the undeniable message coming from many on the right lately. There was a literal riot at the capitol and DJT Jr is talking about how those RINOs are okay with just “losing gracefully.”

    Losing gracefully and not rioting is kind of the definition of democracy.

    I think you’re paraphrasing this, uh, “undeniable message”.  When I google for the phrase I get nothin’.

    I’m pretty sure Don Jr. was using a polite understatement referring to McCain, Romney, and numerous other RiNO candidates who didn’t actually try to win elections.  We’ve seen too way many instances of this.  It’s almost as if they were working for the other side.

    *and before everybody piles in about the summer riots – yes, those were also very anti-democratic but they were not in the one, single building that is identified with our function of government more than any other, nor were they during an event that is core to that function. And whether people admit it or not, the distance in people’s minds between Joe Biden and people burning down stuff in Portland is a lot further than the distance from DJT to the rioters at the capitol.

    The event at the capitol was a protest infiltrated by a small number of Antifa, BLM, and nutcases.

    And protesting is also “kind of the definition of Democracy”.

    And protesting election fraud is even more “kind of the definition of Democracy”.

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  20. Stina Member
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    What do you mean by that? Who said empathy or decorum is for losers?

    Regarding this part of your question, that is the undeniable message coming from many on the right lately. There was a literal riot at the capitol and DJT Jr is talking about how those RINOs are okay with just “losing gracefully.”

    Losing gracefully and not rioting is kind of the definition of democracy.

    I think you’re paraphrasing thus, uh, “undeniable message”. When I google for the phrase I get nothin’.

    I’m pretty sure Don Jr. was using a polite understatement referring to McCain, Romney, and numerous other RiNO candidates who didn’t actually try to win elections. We’ve seen too way many instances of this. It’s almost as if they were working for the other side.

    *and before everybody piles in about the summer riots – yes, those were also very anti-democratic but they were not in the one, single building that is identified with our function of government more than any other, nor were they during an event that is core to that function. And whether people admit it or not, the distance in people’s minds between Joe Biden and people burning down stuff in Portland is a lot further than the distance from DJT to the rioters at the capitol.

    The event at the capitol was a protest infiltrated by a small number of Antifa, BLM, and nutcases.

    And protesting is also “kind of the definition of Democracy”.

    And protesting election fraud is even more “kind of the definition of Democracy”.

    And at least the right building was targeted instead of the innocent small businesses lining the DC streets.

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  21. The_Admin() Coolidge
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Baker (View Comment):
    That was not an accident.

    No, it certainly wasn’t. It took perfidy of establishment republicans turning a blind eye to democrat ballot box stuffing.

    Agree!

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  22. Baker Inactive
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    So does anyone left here think the election was not stolen and that maybe, just maybe, the most consistently unpopular incumbent president in decades might have lost fair and square in several purple-ish states? 

    Regarding my Covid statement from above about empathy: There was very little recognition from the White House of the toll Covid was taking on people personally who had family or friends die. There was very little recognition of how serious a problem it was and that it wasn’t just going to disappear. 

    And if you think the left was responsible for the violence on Jan. 6, I don’t know what to tell you. 

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  23. namlliT noD Member
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    Baker (View Comment):
    Regarding my Covid statement from above about empathy: There was very little recognition from the White House of the toll Covid was taking on people personally who had family or friends die. There was very little recognition of how serious a problem it was and that it wasn’t just going to disappear.

    I’m calling shenanigans on this.  Or rather, malarkey.

    The word “empathy” is a tell, because that’s a Biden talking point.  Googling “Biden” and “empathy” returns 12.9 million references right now.

    President Trump was hospitalized for Covid, as were members of his family and staff.  And if you know what the definition of “empathy is, it’s pretty clear this is the opposite.  It is Donald Trump who has the empathy that Biden lacks, and Biden’s campaign is stealing it.

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  24. Django Member
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    Baker (View Comment):

    So does anyone left here think the election was not stolen and that maybe, just maybe, the most consistently unpopular incumbent president in decades might have lost fair and square in several purple-ish states?

    Regarding my Covid statement from above about empathy: There was very little recognition from the White House of the toll Covid was taking on people personally who had family or friends die. There was very little recognition of how serious a problem it was and that it wasn’t just going to disappear.

    And if you think the left was responsible for the violence on Jan. 6, I don’t know what to tell you.

    I don’t know whether it was stolen, and neither do you. The reason neither of us knows is that no one seems particularly interested in settling the question either way. 

    Here is what I do know, and it is not debatable. PA violated this clause of the constitution: https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-2/section-1/clause-2/  and the violations enabled fraud whether or not it occurred. PA was not unique in that regard. 

    Standard Disclaimer: All I know is what I read in the newspapers and the electronic equivalent.  

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  25. Flicker Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):
    I don’t know whether it was stolen, and neither do you.

    All I know is what I read in the newspapers and the electronic equivalent.

    All we ever know it what we personally experience with our senses.  (And even that is often unreliable.)  And beyond that we have to weigh the probability of something — whether it’s something we read, or assume — being so, based on our experience.

    I actually know very little, but I am confident enough in what I’ve read and seen that I would not qualify it, but simple say that, yes, the election was stolen.  Or at least, the Democrats and the election officials believe it was stolen, and to me, that’s the same thing.

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  26. namlliT noD Member
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    Baker (View Comment):
    So does anyone left here think the election was not stolen and that maybe, just maybe, the most consistently unpopular incumbent president in decades might have lost fair and square in several purple-ish states? 

    Biden boasted about stealing the election:

    “We have put together, I think, the most extensive, and inclusive, voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.”

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  27. kedavis Coolidge
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    “This video has been removed for violating YouTube’s Terms of Service.”

     

    Really?  A public speech by a former president violates YouTube’s Terms of Service?

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  28. namlliT noD Member
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  29. Skyler Coolidge
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    It’s still there.

     

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  30. namlliT noD Member
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    Huh, they missed one.

    And it’s available on Rumble.

    https://rumble.com/ve8xl7-trump-slams-biden-and-democrats-at-cpac.html

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