More White (and Asian) Supremacy News

 

Advanced classes are racist, according to the Boston Public School Board. One statement stunned me (emphasis mine):

The school district analyzed the demographics of the program and found that “more than 70 percent of students enrolled in the program were white and Asian, even though nearly 80 percent of all Boston public school students are Hispanic and Black,” GBH reported.

The last time I was in Boston, neutral observer and I took a tour of the city. Maybe we didn’t go into certain neighborhoods, but I saw a whole lot of whiteness everywhere we went. It makes me wonder where all the white kids go to school…

And in other news, COVID vaccine distribution is racist.

If you wonder why things are slow when it comes to “putting needles in arms,” this might be a reason. It takes time to make sure “the right people” get the vaccine. If “the right people” were by age, then a photo ID ought to be enough. But secret codes? Come on, man!

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  1. Sandy Member
    Sandy
    @Sandy

    A subset of the ancient “dog-in-the-manger” story and it is entirely unsurprising that the education establishment would take this view. They have fought raising standards and in fact steadily lowered them at least since “education” became a university degree and well before race or ethnicity came into the picture.  Now they are simply a little more emboldened. Defund the public schools. 

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  2. Sandy Member
    Sandy
    @Sandy

    I wonder how black Americans view being shoved to the front of the line on vaccines given their apparent fear of once again being guinea pigs. I haven’t wanted to be so rude as to ask, but the word “suspicious”  comes to mind. 

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  3. Doctor Robert Member
    Doctor Robert
    @DoctorRobert

    Sandy (View Comment):

    I wonder how black Americans view being shoved to the front of the line on vaccines given their apparent fear of once again being guinea pigs. I haven’t wanted to be so rude as to ask, but the word “suspicious” comes to mind.

    This is not an unreasonable fear.  The current vaccines are of a novel mechanism which may have a potential for long term harm.  Except for a 93 year old aunt, I don’t want anyone in my family receiving them.

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  4. Full Size Tabby Member
    Full Size Tabby
    @FullSizeTabby

    Stad:

    However, one statement stunned me (emphasis mine):

    “The school district analyzed the demographics of the program and found that “more than 70 percent of students enrolled in the program were white and Asian, even though nearly 80 percent of all Boston public school students are Hispanic and Black,” GBH reported.”

    The last time I was in Boston, neutral observer and I took a tour of the city. Maybe we didn’t go into certrain neighborhoods, but I saw a whole lot of whiteness everywhere we went. It makes me wonder where all the white kids go to school . . .

     

    Mrs. Tabby noted that line too, and wondered the same thing. We don’t have recent personal experience with Boston, but it just seems improbable that 80% of the total population in the city of Boston is Hispanic or black. 

    As someone who has managed processes to goals I can right off the top of my head think of a bunch of questions that should be asked before just axing a program that seems statistically out of whack. Where are the apparently missing white children going to school? What is the applicant pool for the advanced classes program? Are black and Hispanic students entering the applicant pool at the expected rates? Where during the application process do the demographic statistics deviate from what is expected? Students who take the test? The “lottery”? The invitation letters? The acceptances? The actual enrollments? What other data (other than race) do we have about the students in the advanced classes program, and does that differ from public school students in general (household income or employment, family structure, neighborhood crime, etc.). Answers to such questions may reveal issues that the school district might be able to address more productively than simply depriving all students of an advanced classes program simply because the enrollment doesn’t match up with some desired demographic goal. 

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  5. Sandy Member
    Sandy
    @Sandy

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Sandy (View Comment):

    I wonder how black Americans view being shoved to the front of the line on vaccines given their apparent fear of once again being guinea pigs. I haven’t wanted to be so rude as to ask, but the word “suspicious” comes to mind.

    This is not an unreasonable fear. The current vaccines are of a novel mechanism which may have a potential for long term harm. Except for a 93 year old aunt, I don’t want anyone in my family receiving them.

    @Doctor Robert Thanks for this. Your family are fortunate.  I’m 79 and am doing just fine on a harmless prophylaxis. As a massage therapist I work in close proximity to my clients and my clinic has been open without problem since May 29. There are countless ailments I could contract at my age and I will be appropriately cautious but I refuse to live in fear. 

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  6. Tex929rr Coolidge
    Tex929rr
    @Tex929rr

    Vonnegut’s “Harrison Bergeron” was humorous satire in 1961, and yet here we are.  

    “The outlet reported that School Committee member Lorna Rivera expressed concern over the findings at a meeting in January while noting that nearly 60% of fourth graders in the advanced program at one school in West Roxbury are white despite the fact that the majority of third graders enrolled in the school are black and Hispanic.

    “This is just not acceptable,” Rivera said, according to GBH. “I’ve never heard these statistics before, and I’m very, very disturbed by them.””

    Ms. Rivera (I’m assuming her pronouns here) is correct to be concerned, but incorrect in what she views as the problem. 

     

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  7. Barfly Member
    Barfly
    @Barfly

    Stad:

    “The school district analyzed the demographics of the program and found that “more than 70 percent of students enrolled in the program were white and Asian, even though nearly 80 percent of all Boston public school students are Hispanic and Black,” GBH reported.”

    Sounded ridiculous to me, so I looked it up. Yes, that’s an official number. https://www.bostonpublicschools.org/cms/lib/MA01906464/Centricity/Domain/187/BPS%20at%20a%20Glance%202019-20_FINAL.pdf

    That PDF is an eye-opener.

    • 21% of BPS’s students receive “special education.”
    • BPS has 6200 teachers and aides, and 830 administrators, to educate 53,000 students.
    • School police officers are paid less than custodians.
    • 58% of the class of 2021 meets state standards of competence.
    • In 1989 residents voted to stop electing the School Committee themselves and instead let the mayor pick them. Of course they did, and Democrats stealing elections is totally a new phenomenon.

     

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  8. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
    Fake John/Jane Galt
    @FakeJohnJaneGalt

    Sandy (View Comment):

    I wonder how black Americans view being shoved to the front of the line on vaccines given their apparent fear of once again being guinea pigs. I haven’t wanted to be so rude as to ask, but the word “suspicious” comes to mind.

    Most blacks I know are just fine with anything that sticks it to whitey or put whites in their place.  

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  9. Phil Turmel Coolidge
    Phil Turmel
    @PhilTurmel

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Stad:

    However, one statement stunned me (emphasis mine):

    “The school district analyzed the demographics of the program and found that “more than 70 percent of students enrolled in the program were white and Asian, even though nearly 80 percent of all Boston public school students are Hispanic and Black,” GBH reported.”

    The last time I was in Boston, neutral observer and I took a tour of the city. Maybe we didn’t go into certrain neighborhoods, but I saw a whole lot of whiteness everywhere we went. It makes me wonder where all the white kids go to school . . .

     

    Mrs. Tabby noted that line too, and wondered the same thing. We don’t have recent personal experience with Boston, but it just seems improbable that 80% of the total population in the city of Boston is Hispanic or black.

    As someone who has managed processes to goals I can right off the top of my head think of a bunch of questions that should be asked before just axing a program that seems statistically out of whack. Where are the apparently missing white children going to school? What is the applicant pool for the advanced classes program? Are black and Hispanic students entering the applicant pool at the expected rates? Where during the application process do the demographic statistics deviate from what is expected? Students who take the test? The “lottery”? The invitation letters? The acceptances? The actual enrollments? What other data (other than race) do we have about the students in the advanced classes program, and does that differ from public school students in general (household income or employment, family structure, neighborhood crime, etc.). Answers to such questions may reveal issues that the school district might be able to address more productively than simply depriving all students of an advanced classes program simply because the enrollment doesn’t match up with some desired demographic goal.

    The school district doesn’t want to address anything like this “more productively”.  It isn’t about what might be good for the kids.  It is about the future employment opportunities of the administrators in the new woke governance paradigm.  Chopping a program dominated by white and asian kids is good for the administrators, and that is all they care about.

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  10. Stina Member
    Stina
    @CM

    Just so we have this out in the open, the systemic racism they are fighting is Western Civilization.

    Since civilization barely exists in Africa, it’s existence in Europe and America means we got it by exploiting entire continents of non-white peoples.

    So our civilization is what is racist. All of it. And every habit we have developed to make civilization successful is then a characteristic of racism. To expect them to behave in accordance to civilizational “best practices” is forcing them to “act white” to succeed.

    This is what they are arguing for. They are actively and knowingly fighting for the end of western civilization, by destroying our historical artifacts, rewriting our history, appropriating our cultural treasures, and denigrating us as a people without culture or value.

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  11. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    Called it like a conservative Cassandra.

    I wrote an essay titled, “Why the Woke Left will turn against Asian-Americans.

     

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  12. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Sandy (View Comment):

    I wonder how black Americans view being shoved to the front of the line on vaccines given their apparent fear of once again being guinea pigs. I haven’t wanted to be so rude as to ask, but the word “suspicious” comes to mind.

    Most blacks I know are just fine with anything that sticks it to whitey or put whites in their place.

    You and I hang out with different blacks. (Though to be fair I don’t hang out with that many.) Why do you continue to hang out with blacks that hate you? 

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  13. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge
    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!)
    @DonG

    Stina (View Comment):
    Since civilization barely exists in Africa

    Africa is a large and diverse place.   If you measure civilization by mobile banking by the population, then Africa has some of the most civilized countries in the world.   I sure hope civilization is not measure by how militarized a country’s capitol is!

    Biden inauguration rehearsal postponed due to threats

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  14. CACrabtree Coolidge
    CACrabtree
    @CACrabtree

    Yet more proof (as if we didn’t already have enough) that until our so-called Conservative leaders “grow a pair”, the Left will continue to push until there will be nothing remaining of Western Civilization.  

    They are emboldened.  When will we fight back; I mean really fight back?  All we see now are isolated interviews that seem to conclude (every time) that, “well, we really should do something about that.”  (Sometimes, I think Conservatives enjoy playing the victim card.)

    It’s time to say “enough” and bring all our forces to bear so that we enforce Alinsky’s “Rule 13”.  Put pictures of BLM leaders, the authors of 1619 Project, and heads of teacher’s unions up on billboards throughout the country with the words, “This is the Enemy” under each picture.

    Until we take the fight to them, we will always come out on the losing end.

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  15. Stina Member
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    @CM

    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):
    Since civilization barely exists in Africa

    Africa is a large and diverse place. If you measure civilization by mobile banking by the population, then Africa has some of the most civilized countries in the world. I sure hope civilization is not measure by how militarized a country’s capitol is!

    Biden inauguration rehearsal postponed due to threats

    I’m not certain mobile banking is a good indicator of civilization.

    I agree it is large and diverse. However, a great majority of it is 3rd world and what has improved to developing is still recent.

    The left is attacking the markers of advanced civilization.

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  16. Stad Coolidge
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    @Stad

     

    Barfly (View Comment):
    residents voted to stop electing the School Committee themselves and instead let the mayor pick them.

    Well that’s just dumb . . .

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  17. Stina Member
    Stina
    @CM

    Stad (View Comment):

     

    Barfly (View Comment):
    residents voted to stop electing the School Committee themselves and instead let the mayor pick them.

    Well that’s just dumb . . .

    Well, after ‘20, I’m willing to go with “voted”.

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  18. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    @FakeJohnJaneGalt

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Sandy (View Comment):

    I wonder how black Americans view being shoved to the front of the line on vaccines given their apparent fear of once again being guinea pigs. I haven’t wanted to be so rude as to ask, but the word “suspicious” comes to mind.

    Most blacks I know are just fine with anything that sticks it to whitey or put whites in their place.

    You and I hang out with different blacks. (Though to be fair I don’t hang out with that many.) Why do you continue to hang out with blacks that hate you?

    I suspect that is true.  We seem to be from different worlds, different backgrounds.  As for hanging out, you have to make your way in the world and take it as it is and it’s people as they are.  Blacks tend to be like most others.  Petty, out for themselves, indifferent or predatory with the exception they have been taught that whites hate them so they are either wary of whites or hate them back.  Also most tend to see many things as racist even if it is not.  Thus if some white people are pushed back in line and die of COVID, well they have it coming.  It is best for all involved.  Sort of the same view the government has.

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  19. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    Blacks tend to be like most others. Petty, out for themselves, indifferent or predatory

    According to E.O. Wilson and basic sense, humans would not have been able to become 7 billion people if people were fundamentally predatory. Everyone always has to look out for predatory people but stuff simply wouldn’t work if it was common to be predatory.

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  20. Acook Member
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    @Acook

    Stina (View Comment):

    Just so we have this out in the open, the systemic racism they are fighting is Western Civilization.

    Since civilization barely exists in Africa, it’s existence in Europe and America means we got it by exploiting entire continents of non-white peoples.

    So our civilization is what is racist. All of it. And every habit we have developed to make civilization successful is then a characteristic of racism. To expect them to behave in accordance to civilizational “best practices” is forcing them to “act white” to succeed.

    This is what they are arguing for. They are actively and knowingly fighting for the end of western civilization, by destroying our historical artifacts, rewriting our history, appropriating our cultural treasures, and denigrating us as a people without culture or value.

    I agree with this. I refuse to apologize for the civilization/country conceived primarily by white people that has become the place that most people in the world want to live if they can. And then many hundreds of thousands of white people died to rid the country of slavery. As Dennis Prager says, this country is the least racist country on the face of the earth. And the left is in the process of dismantling it. 

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  21. Aaron Miller Member
    Aaron Miller
    @AaronMiller

    From this Boston Public Schools PDF

    Student demographics:
    42% Hispanic 34% Black 14% White
    9% Asian 1% Other/multiracial

    45% First language not English
    32% English learners
    21% Students with disabilities (students with an IEP)
    7% English learners with disabilities
    71% Economically disadvantaged

    11 Participating in one or more of these state-
    administered programs: SNAP, TAFDC, DCF foster
    care, and MassHealth

    Students who don’t attend BPS: (from March 2018)

    Of the 74,429 (est.) school-age children living in Boston,
    about 21,626 (29%) do not attend Boston public schools.
    They are:
    45% Black 3% Asian
    24% White 9% Other
    19% Hispanic

    Of these students:
    10,356 go to public charter schools
    3,730 go to parochial schools
    3,584 go to private schools
    3,361 go to suburban schools through METCO
    469 are placed by the BPS Special Education Dept.
    in non-BPS schools and programs
    126 are home schooled (as of 1/1/2018)

    Emphasis is mine. 

    Maybe half of Bostonians these days are black Irish who speak only Gaelic. 

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  22. Stad Coolidge
    Stad
    @Stad

    Aaron Miller (View Comment):

    From this Boston Public Schools PDF:

    Student demographics:
    42% Hispanic 34% Black 14% White
    9% Asian 1% Other/multiracial

    45% First language not English
    32% English learners
    21% Students with disabilities (students with an IEP)
    7% English learners with disabilities
    71% Economically disadvantaged

    11 Participating in one or more of these state-
    administered programs: SNAP, TAFDC, DCF foster
    care, and MassHealth

    Students who don’t attend BPS: (from March 2018)

    Of the 74,429 (est.) school-age children living in Boston,
    about 21,626 (29%) do not attend Boston public schools.
    They are:
    45% Black 3% Asian
    24% White 9% Other
    19% Hispanic

    Of these students:
    10,356 go to public charter schools
    3,730 go to parochial schools
    3,584 go to private schools
    3,361 go to suburban schools through METCO
    469 are placed by the BPS Special Education Dept.
    in non-BPS schools and programs
    126 are home schooled (as of 1/1/2018)

    Emphasis is mine.

    Maybe half of Bostonians these days are black Irish who speak only Gaelic.

    Fascinating statistics . . .

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  23. Stina Member
    Stina
    @CM

    High ESL gaps in schools have an incredible lowering of classroom standards.

    is there no incentive for exclusively ESL charter schools?

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  24. Stad Coolidge
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    @Stad

    Stina (View Comment):

    High ESL gaps in schools have an incredible lowering of classroom standards.

    is there no incentive for exclusively ESL charter schools?

    I believe if we had school vouchers, they’d pop up overnight like mushrooms . . .

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  25. Full Size Tabby Member
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    @FullSizeTabby

    Stad (View Comment):

    Aaron Miller (View Comment):

    From this Boston Public Schools PDF:

    Student demographics:
    42% Hispanic 34% Black 14% White
    9% Asian 1% Other/multiracial

    45% First language not English
    32% English learners
    21% Students with disabilities (students with an IEP)
    7% English learners with disabilities
    71% Economically disadvantaged

    11 Participating in one or more of these state-
    administered programs: SNAP, TAFDC, DCF foster
    care, and MassHealth

    Students who don’t attend BPS: (from March 2018)

    Of the 74,429 (est.) school-age children living in Boston,
    about 21,626 (29%) do not attend Boston public schools.
    They are:
    45% Black 3% Asian
    24% White 9% Other
    19% Hispanic

    Of these students:
    10,356 go to public charter schools
    3,730 go to parochial schools
    3,584 go to private schools
    3,361 go to suburban schools through METCO
    469 are placed by the BPS Special Education Dept.
    in non-BPS schools and programs
    126 are home schooled (as of 1/1/2018)

    Emphasis is mine.

    Maybe half of Bostonians these days are black Irish who speak only Gaelic.

    Fascinating statistics . . .

    Yes. Before cutting off the advanced classes program entirely, the school board should want to know more about the black students attending charter schools (are they studio would otherwise be in the advanced classes program of the public schools), a comparison of the language capabilities of the Hispanic students in the public schools and in the charter schools, and why the Asian students choose the public schools. 

    I had no idea there would be so many Hispanics and/or recent immigrants in Boston. Stad, apparently when you and Neutral Observer were in Boston you saw a lot of white-ish Hispanics. 

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  26. Stad Coolidge
    Stad
    @Stad

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Aaron Miller (View Comment):

    From this Boston Public Schools PDF:

    Student demographics:
    42% Hispanic 34% Black 14% White
    9% Asian 1% Other/multiracial

    45% First language not English
    32% English learners
    21% Students with disabilities (students with an IEP)
    7% English learners with disabilities
    71% Economically disadvantaged

    11 Participating in one or more of these state-
    administered programs: SNAP, TAFDC, DCF foster
    care, and MassHealth

    Students who don’t attend BPS: (from March 2018)

    Of the 74,429 (est.) school-age children living in Boston,
    about 21,626 (29%) do not attend Boston public schools.
    They are:
    45% Black 3% Asian
    24% White 9% Other
    19% Hispanic

    Of these students:
    10,356 go to public charter schools
    3,730 go to parochial schools
    3,584 go to private schools
    3,361 go to suburban schools through METCO
    469 are placed by the BPS Special Education Dept.
    in non-BPS schools and programs
    126 are home schooled (as of 1/1/2018)

    Emphasis is mine.

    Maybe half of Bostonians these days are black Irish who speak only Gaelic.

    Fascinating statistics . . .

    Yes. Before cutting off the advanced classes program entirely, the school board should want to know more about the black students attending charter schools (are they studio would otherwise be in the advanced classes program of the public schools), a comparison of the language capabilities of the Hispanic students in the public schools and in the charter schools, and why the Asian students choose the public schools.

    I had no idea there would be so many Hispanics and/or recent immigrants in Boston. Stad, apparently when you and Neutral Observer were in Boston you saw a lot of white-ish Hispanics.

    Bet they’re all relatives of George Zimmerman . . .

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  27. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    Stad (View Comment):

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Aaron Miller (View Comment):

    From this Boston Public Schools PDF:

    Student demographics:
    42% Hispanic 34% Black 14% White
    9% Asian 1% Other/multiracial

    45% First language not English
    32% English learners
    21% Students with disabilities (students with an IEP)
    7% English learners with disabilities
    71% Economically disadvantaged

    11 Participating in one or more of these state-
    administered programs: SNAP, TAFDC, DCF foster
    care, and MassHealth

    Students who don’t attend BPS: (from March 2018)

    Of the 74,429 (est.) school-age children living in Boston,
    about 21,626 (29%) do not attend Boston public schools.
    They are:
    45% Black 3% Asian
    24% White 9% Other
    19% Hispanic

    Of these students:
    10,356 go to public charter schools
    3,730 go to parochial schools
    3,584 go to private schools
    3,361 go to suburban schools through METCO
    469 are placed by the BPS Special Education Dept.
    in non-BPS schools and programs
    126 are home schooled (as of 1/1/2018)

    Emphasis is mine.

    Maybe half of Bostonians these days are black Irish who speak only Gaelic.

    Fascinating statistics . . .

    Yes. Before cutting off the advanced classes program entirely, the school board should want to know more about the black students attending charter schools (are they studio would otherwise be in the advanced classes program of the public schools), a comparison of the language capabilities of the Hispanic students in the public schools and in the charter schools, and why the Asian students choose the public schools.

    I had no idea there would be so many Hispanics and/or recent immigrants in Boston. Stad, apparently when you and Neutral Observer were in Boston you saw a lot of white-ish Hispanics.

    Bet they’re all relatives of George Zimmerman . . .

    That’s a callback.

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  28. MARTIN WORNATH Coolidge
    MARTIN WORNATH
    @ManOfTheWest

    The Liberal Establishment has discriminated against whites for decades, but now they are starting to blatantly discriminate against Asian Americans as well. Yet according to exit polls, Asian Americans voted for Biden at a rate of 60 percent.  So figure that out.  I can think of NOTHING in the DNC platform that is in the interests of Asians, and the fact that they vote Democratic most of the time is a testament to the power of Identity Politics.  It is really sad and disgusting when you think about it.

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  29. Stad Coolidge
    Stad
    @Stad

    MARTIN WORNATH (View Comment):
    now they are starting to blatantly discriminate against Asian Americans

    Should we start calling them white Asians now?

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  30. CACrabtree Coolidge
    CACrabtree
    @CACrabtree

    MARTIN WORNATH (View Comment):

    The Liberal Establishment has discriminated against whites for decades, but now they are starting to blatantly discriminate against Asian Americans as well. Yet according to exit polls, Asian Americans voted for Biden at a rate of 60 percent. So figure that out. I can think of NOTHING in the DNC platform that is in the interests of Asians, and the fact that they vote Democratic most of the time is a testament to the power of Identity Politics. It is really sad and disgusting when you think about it.

    ***Begin Rant***

    Why do Asians vote Democratic?  Why do Jewish folks vote Democratic?  Why do Latinos vote Democratic?  Why do Black folks vote Democratic?  Come to think of it; why would ANYONE vote Democratic?  In looking at the DNC platform I see absolutely NOTHING that is in the interests of anyone except career Federal government employees, welfare recipients (both current and future) and the 1% elite who look down on everyone that is not in their social class.

    Can’t figure it.  Never could figure it.  Probably will never be able to figure it.

    ***End Rant***

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