No, Don’t Vaccinate First Graders

 

A recent National Review article asked, “Could We Really Be Vaccinating First-Graders by Autumn?” Let’s put aside the politics for a moment. This is a bad idea, a tremendously bad idea.

First, Covid is a seasonal virus that, having found its place in the population, can be expected to remain only at low levels now that herd immunity is near. Vaccination is not needed.

Second, six-year-olds neither suffer from nor carry the virus. The vaccine is not known to be effective for 20-30 years, so we don’t know if the vaccine given today will be effective when they are old enough for it to matter.

Third and last, the present vaccine works by a novel and very troubling mechanism. It inserts mRNA into our cells which then compels our cells to make the “spike protein” which our Chinese friends worked so long and hard to modify to its present lethality. From the CDC: “(the mRNA vaccines) contain material from the virus that causes COVID-19 that gives our cells instructions for how to make a harmless protein that is unique to the virus. After our cells make copies of the protein, they destroy the genetic material from the vaccine. Our bodies recognize that the protein should not be there and build T-lymphocytes and B-lymphocytes that will remember how to fight the virus that causes COVID-19 if we are infected in the future.”

This is scary stuff. On the basis of the current panic, we are injecting people with a vaccine that will cause them to add a protein to their cell membranes. A protein that is purportedly harmless but is still recognized by our lymphocytes as foreign and thus deserving a response.

OK. It’s 2023, and in the People’s Republic of Massachusetts, Wu-flu is merely a very bad memory. Now what happens when the vaccinated person gets some sort of an immune system trigger, say a bout of hypoglycemia, or placement of breast implants, or exposure to another novel virus, or something, and the body reactivates its immune response to the novel spike protein? Are we going to see people develop autoimmunity and diseases like systemic lupus and rheumatoid arthritis and hypersensitivity pneumonitis due to these new cell wall proteins?

We don’t know, and we can’t know, because it will take 20 years to get a 20-year perspective.  I think we will because nothing in medicine, politics, or life is without unexpected consequences.

This is potentially more dangerous than the lockdowns. The mRNA vaccines have the potential to cause far more harm than the disease they intend to prevent. No one except those most fraught with short-term risk should receive these vaccines. I sure as hell won’t take one.

In 1942, Edward Teller reasoned that an atomic bomb might ignite the atmosphere and oceans in a chain reaction that would consume the earth. His colleagues took this seriously enough to perform a detailed study that showed that this could not happen.

We need a Teller for the Covid vaccines.

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  1. Doctor Robert Member
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    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):

    Its already been determined in Canada, we are not vaccinating anyone under the age of 16. As its unsafe.

    As much as I think our Public Health Organization have over reacted to this, I trust them when they say a vaccine is unsafe.

    What is the matter with these idiots in your country. More concerned with a political agenda, than doing what is best for kids.

    Ain’t that the truth!  See, treatment of “trans” children.

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  2. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Meanwhile a leading science-y magazine presents the arguments for COVID 19 vaxxes for our children and grandchildren. None of these many info tidbits  manage to address any of the information bytes your OP so generously and logically provided.

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/02/trials-ramp-doctors-stress-need-vaccinate-kids-against-covid-19

    The magazine article avoids the most important info: The vaccine has No benefit.

    The pointless vaccine cannot stop an infected individual from spreading the virus. It cannot stop an individual from being infected with a moderate to serious case of COVID. It does minimize symptoms for those who might have a minor case of COVID, but in that case, some Schweppes tonic water and an antihistamine would do the same thing. Unlike the vaccine program, those remedies have no serious side effects.

    Currently 1 out of every 5,000 vaccinees either suffer a serious adverse event, such as anaphylactis, Guillan Barre, transverse myelitis, the development of a seizure disorder, myocarditis, heart attack, or death.

    Anyone who dies from the vaccine, or is impaired for the rest of their lives, has little or no recourse. Just like the parents of SIDS cases, the family who will exhaust their resources propping up the injured individual, or who must suffer  the actual loss of that individual will be told “It was an unfortunate coincidence.”

    Families in the upper strata of income who are vaccine victims are more likely than the rest of us to at some point in the next ten years receive a settlement from the taxpayer supported vaccine court.

    Although a middle income family can self report to the vaccine court, in order to ensure that the case is taken seriously, usually a special sort of autopsy must be done, that addresses the questions the vaccine court always poses. It is unlikely the family will know that until it is far too late. It is also important to have the coroner or ME sign off on vaccine as the cause of death, which again will most likely not happen for middle or lower income class victims.

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  3. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):

    Its already been determined in Canada, we are not vaccinating anyone under the age of 16. As its unsafe.

    As much as I think our Public Health Organization have over reacted to this, I trust them when they say a vaccine is unsafe.

    What is the matter with these idiots in your country. More concerned with a political agenda, than doing what is best for kids.

    We are  quite a bit more controlled than Canada. Money and special perks have been offered to those in the media here in the USA.

    The WHO has enough money from its special donor Bill Gates that its one official bragged over the past summer that they offer special incentives to Big Media Moguls liker Jack Dorsey and Mark  Zuckerberg in return for social media consumers being censored when they offer up “false information.” And most of our public elected or appointed officials are happy to know they will be rewarded by Big Pharma or Bill Gates.

    Plus the American educational system is poop. You can get all the way through college in a medical field or scientific field and never hear the important principle of “risk vs benefit” being taught as one of the central principles in making a medical decision.

     

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  4. kedavis Coolidge
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):
    How is this any different than the annual Influenza that we vaccinate for?

    I’m having the same problem with so many doctors saying that we need to keep the controls–masks and so on–in place even if a lot of people have been vaccinated. My dentist said this to me a couple of weeks ago. I said, “Wait. How is this is any different from any other disease we have vaccinations for? Between innate immunity, acquired immunity, and vaccination-induced immunity, the numbers will go steadily down, just as they do for every other disease. Right?”

    She smiled, “You know what? You’re right. You’re absolutely right.”

    I don’t understand why so many doctors are thinking we need to make these controls a way of life. We don’t have to do that now.

    And then she tagged your patient file for special attention by the CDC etc…

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  5. kedavis Coolidge
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    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert:

    Now what happens when the vaccinated person gets some sort of an immune system trigger, say a bout of hypoglycemia, or placement of breast implants, or exposure to another novel virus, or something, and the body reactivates its immune response to the novel spike protein? Are we going to see people develop autoimmunity and diseases like systemic lupus and rheumatoid arthritis and hypersensitivity pneumonitis due to these new cell wall proteins?

    Would that be possible if the CDC description is correct? It’s teaching the immune system to react to the spikes. I don’t understand how that would lead to side effects other than maybe a response to a virus with similar spikes.

    I remember 20 years ago my friend was reluctant to get lasik because the procedure was too new at the time… what if it leads to blindness… I think we can safely rule out blindness as a side effect of lasik but only after the procedure was approved in US in 1997 and in Canada in 1982

     

    Lasik using lasers definitely seems to have a much better track record for results and safety than the older RK using blades.

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  6. kedavis Coolidge
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    I have been thinking about Dr. Robert’s concerns, and now I’m wondering if no one of child-bearing age or younger should be given this new drug. The wonder of a free market is that there is competition and consumers are informed and make intelligent choices.

    I’ve seen some instances in which the healthcare profession went too fast with new ideas. Ritalin was a good idea for a very select group of young patients, but it was way overprescribed and carelessly so–a friend of mine was a special needs director in one of the towns on the Cape, and she was very concerned that it was so hard to get a doctor to call the school back when they were concerned about some kids being overmedicated. Their eyes were glossy, and they were in some sort of mild daze. At that time, Ritalin was prescribed not based on need demonstrated by laboratory tests but on reports by teachers and parents of hyperactivity combined with a too-brief clinical assessment by a doctor or nurse practitioner.

    Given the success of HCQ and the other new treatments, I think we can and should proceed more slowly with the vaccines to young people.

    Also, Thalidomide.

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  7. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):

    Its already been determined in Canada, we are not vaccinating anyone under the age of 16. As its unsafe.

    As much as I think our Public Health Organization have over reacted to this, I trust them when they say a vaccine is unsafe.

    What is the matter with these idiots in your country. More concerned with a political agenda, than doing what is best for kids.

    Ain’t that the truth! See, treatment of “trans” children.

    Maybe the teachers union should be vaccinated.  Some members will experience adverse serious side effects and won’t return to the classroom.  Teachers are already on thin ice with parents.

     

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  8. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    Kids don’t need to wear masks

     

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  9. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    Here is a novel idea: instead of vaccinating first graders, monitor their hand washing

    Also:

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  10. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):
    I wonder why the medical community is not more active in opposing the widespread use of this group of vaccines? This is crazy.

    Two Docs out of three realize the degree to which this panic is a tool of oppression. One risks firing for saying so.

    There is a doctor in MN whose license is on the line because he has suggested to his patients that they have the right to informed consent, for vaccines and any medicine or procedure. And also the right to ask questions.

    Luckily for him, someone who is an influencer on social media has been speaking out about this and doing a “Fund Me” project so the physician has money for the court case process.

    In my almost 20 years of doing elder care, 1989 to 2008, I watched as hospital standards in 90% of the hospitals and nursing homes in California evaporated. I had a great respect for the doctors who oversaw my patients’ care, as they were compassionate, thorough and well educated about anatomy, psychological conditions that are problems for the elderly, medicines and procedures.

    Many of those doctors have retired out of the system. It is scary to think that their like may not be seen again in my lifetime, as being a technician with a MD degree is now more important than being a doctor.

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  11. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):
    I wonder why the medical community is not more active in opposing the widespread use of this group of vaccines? This is crazy.

    Two Docs out of three realize the degree to which this panic is a tool of oppression. One risks firing for saying so.

    There is a doctor in MN whose license is on the line because he has suggested to his patients that they have the right to informed consent, for vaccines and any medicine or procedure. And also the right to ask questions.

    Luckily for him, someone who is an influencer on social media has been speaking out about this and doing a “Fund Me” project so the physician has money for the court case process.

    In my almost 20 years of doing elder care, 1989 to 2008, I watched as hospital standards in 90% of the hospitals and nursing homes in California evaporated. I had a great respect for the doctors who oversaw my patients’ care, as they were compassionate, thorough and well educated about anatomy, psychological conditions that are problems for the elderly, medicines and procedures.

    Many of those doctors have retired out of the system. It is scary to think that their like may not be seen again in my lifetime, as being a technician with a MD degree is now more important than being a doctor.

    I have read that there is a shortage of geriatric specialists because Medicare reimbursements are low and keep getting lower and lower

     

     

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  12. The Reticulator Member
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    Doctor Robert: This is scary stuff. On the basis of the current panic, we are injecting people with a vaccine that will cause them to add a protein to their cell membranes. A protein that is purportedly harmless but is still recognized by our lymphocytes as foreign and thus deserving a response.

    Is it really so scary? It happens already every time we get a virus infection. How else do they take over the cells’ mechanisms but by getting inside, and how else do they get inside except by attaching to the cell membrane? Are we even sure that the incapacitated viruses that are used in other vaccines don’t attach to cell membranes? 

    My apologies if this has already been addressed. I haven’t read the comments except for the final handful. 

    And is anyone really proposing that we vaccinate 1st graders?  I’d think the reasons we vaccinate little tykes against other viruses are reasons that don’t apply with this one. 

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  13. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    Also, don’t vaccinate first grade teachers!

     

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  14. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert: This is scary stuff. On the basis of the current panic, we are injecting people with a vaccine that will cause them to add a protein to their cell membranes. A protein that is purportedly harmless but is still recognized by our lymphocytes as foreign and thus deserving a response.

    Is it really so scary? It happens already every time we get a virus infection. How else do they take over the cells’ mechanisms but by getting inside, and how else do they get inside except by attaching to the cell membrane? Are we even sure that the incapacitated viruses that are used in other vaccines don’t attach to cell membranes?

    My apologies if this has already been addressed. I haven’t read the comments except for the final handful.

    And is anyone really proposing that we vaccinate 1st graders? I’d think the reasons we vaccinate little tykes against other viruses are reasons that don’t apply with this one.

    The virus that adds a protein to a cellular membrane when we are sick is attacked by the body’s macrophages and they lay waste to it and if they are successful the infection wanes. We live – the infection dies.

    This new protein resulting from the mRNA vaccine is supposedly going to be nothing for us to worry about, at all. Except that in an earlier vaccine for a different variety of corona virus, the trial animals all died.

    Oh they did okay with being jabbed. The monkeys, cats and ferrets all did A-okay with being jabbed.

    It was only later on when the animals  became exposed to a different and considerably less serious corona virus that it turned out the animals had all been made  more susceptible to this corona virus by the  vaccine.  They came down with serious infections and then they died.

    So the esteemed Big Pharma types working on the COVID vaccines learned something from these animal trials. What they learned was this: they carefully avoided dong much in the way of any animal trials, although one of the vaccines might have had a study involving 48 animals. (If an indie researcher attempts to do a study using less than 250 trial subjects, he or she is belittled by the industry, as  a mere 48 subjects is just not enough to give anything credence.)

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  15. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):
    And arguments that this is just like any other vaccination are absurd.

    I don’t think the arguments are absurd. They make a lot of sense.

    I just think that sometimes we can’t anticipate everything with our current knowledge.How do the arguments not end up being absurd?

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    My reply:

    A regular old vaccine uses a fully sequenced weakened form of the bacterial infection to cause the body’s macrophage and other immune system worker bees  to attack the infection. This, the theory goes, has the end result such that the vaccinated person then has antibodies to the wild version of the  infection. So the vaccinated person will not end up being a host to that particular infection.

    However the situation with the COVID vaccine is different. First of all, it is for a virus and not a bacterial infection.

    Secondly it is believed that  there is a strong possibility the partially sequenced viral material that is inside the lipid envelope will end up hiding inside the vaccinated person’s cells. (Normally an infection is sitting on top and around the cell where it is easily discerned and the immune system can handle it.)

    Should the response of the body be to go into full stage alert mode, and begin trying to attack everything in between the infection fighters and the vaccine material, there will be problems. If this response occurs near the kidneys, lupus could result. If it is a response centered on the spinal area, MS could be the result. If it is near the brain stem, ALS could be the result. If it is concerning the pancreas, diabetes will be the response.

    Conditions inside a person’s body which could currently not be diagnosed might lie dormant for decades and cause no problems, until the above described agitations are provoked. For instance, a 28 year old woman in Rockford Ill has died 5 days after getting her second Pfizer jab.

    The health authorities are blaming an arteriovenous malformation (AVM.)  However so far in Sara’s life, according to her family she had no complaints of this abnormality in her brain. In fact she had no health complaints at all.

    She might have lived another 15 years or more before it bothered her enough to find out about it. And even then she might have been told it was not an urgent matter.

    So for an infection whose fatality rate is 19.1 million to one for a 45 to 60 year old man, and a 28 year old’s is much lower, she lost her life for the purpose of what? The 264 billion bucks this vax project will profit the Inner Circle of Gates, Fauci, and others. (Google is an investor in the Astra Zeneca vaccine. I’m not sure if they have a stake in Pfizer or not.)

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