What If They Gave an Impeachment and Nobody Cared?

 

This week’s Twitter conversation focused on different stories each day. Monday was mostly Super Bowl reactions and making fun of David Hogg’s pillow start-up. Tuesday, it was Gov. Cuomo’s Covid scandal and the guy who logged into a Zoom court hearing with a cat filter. Wednesday, Joss Whedon was blasted for his cruel treatment of actresses and Disney fired Gina Carano from “The Mandalorian” for being conservative. Thursday, the Lincoln Project self-destructed and people canceled their Disney+ subscriptions. Friday, it was some Justin Timberlake scandal and Biden flack T.J. Ducklo threatening a reporter.

There was another big story this week that only the DC media and paycheck politicos seemed to care about. Apparently, the Senate is presiding over the trial of ex-President Trump. Reviewing the top Google searches of the week, nothing related to the impeachment made it to the top 10. Not “Trump,” not “Senate,” not “Constitution,” not “impeachment.” Here on the western edge of flyover country, no one has mentioned it in real life, not even at a long, robust, 20-person gathering I attended Thursday.

Much like Trump’s previous Senate impeachment trial, the general public could not care less.

Despite this, Beltway types insist that this is the most important story ever to swamp the banks of the Potomac. Yet it feels even more muted than the Ukraine impeachment, an event so earth-shaking that the Democrats forgot to mention it in their convention a few months later.

Is it me, or has America moved on?

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  1. Jules PA Inactive
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    Kozak (View Comment):

     

     

    Precious. Nostalgia. 

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  2. MarciN Member
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    I am glad for the outcome, but I wish the Senate had had to sit through the 300 witnesses Trump’s defense team had assembled. 

    I hope someone gathers their testimony in a book for the sake of history. Otherwise, there won’t be an honest record of these events for the future. 

    • #32
  3. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon, you called for this impeachment in very strong terms. How are you feeling about it being ignored?

    It should be ignored. The only way impeachment/removal could have worked is if Pelosi delivered the articles the weekend following the riot and the Senate acted on it immediately. Instead, Pelosi took her sweet time. Once Trump left office on his own, removal was superfluous.

    I thought you wanted him never to be able to serve again.

    You had a long, angry post demanding that.

    Oh well?

    You seem disappointed that we (somewhat) agree now.

    No I don’t understand. If you felt it vital he never serve in office again, then how is this something to be ignored?  Have you changed your mind? Which is perfectly reasonable. 

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  4. Headedwest Coolidge
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    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon, you called for this impeachment in very strong terms. How are you feeling about it being ignored?

    It should be ignored. The only way impeachment/removal could have worked is if Pelosi delivered the articles the weekend following the riot and the Senate acted on it immediately. Instead, Pelosi took her sweet time. Once Trump left office on his own, removal was superfluous.

    I thought you wanted him never to be able to serve again.

    You had a long, angry post demanding that.

    Oh well?

    You seem disappointed that we (somewhat) agree now.

    I think Bryan is holding you accountable for probably the worst thing you have published on this site.

    • #34
  5. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Headedwest (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon, you called for this impeachment in very strong terms. How are you feeling about it being ignored?

    It should be ignored. The only way impeachment/removal could have worked is if Pelosi delivered the articles the weekend following the riot and the Senate acted on it immediately. Instead, Pelosi took her sweet time. Once Trump left office on his own, removal was superfluous.

    I thought you wanted him never to be able to serve again.

    You had a long, angry post demanding that.

    Oh well?

    You seem disappointed that we (somewhat) agree now.

    I think Bryan is holding you accountable for probably the worst thing you have published on this site.

    No. I am wanting to understand. What seems to have happened is time has passed and Jon has moved on. This is not gotcha.

    • #35
  6. Taras Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon, you called for this impeachment in very strong terms. How are you feeling about it being ignored?

    It should be ignored. The only way impeachment/removal could have worked is if Pelosi delivered the articles the weekend following the riot and the Senate acted on it immediately. Instead, Pelosi took her sweet time. Once Trump left office on his own, removal was superfluous.

    I thought you wanted him never to be able to serve again.

    You had a long, angry post demanding that.

    Oh well?

    You seem disappointed that we (somewhat) agree now.

    I think Bryan is holding you accountable for probably the worst thing you have published on this site.

    No. I am wanting to understand. What seems to have happened is time has passed and Jon has moved on. This is not gotcha.

    People in the grip of a temporary enthusiasm will say things they later regret.

    Some double down on their mistake (the typical N-T approach); others, returning to their right minds, pretend it never happened.

    • #36
  7. Front Seat Cat Member
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    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon, you called for this impeachment in very strong terms. How are you feeling about it being ignored?

    It should be ignored. The only way impeachment/removal could have worked is if Pelosi delivered the articles the weekend following the riot and the Senate acted on it immediately. Instead, Pelosi took her sweet time. Once Trump left office on his own, removal was superfluous.

    She took her sweeet time delivering on the last impeachment as I recall – also for maximum political purposes which also backfired?

    • #37
  8. Front Seat Cat Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    The Cynthonian (View Comment):

    I’d prefer a Trump replacement, but it’s good to keep the possibility of Trump 2024 alive. At the moment we don’t have a good slate of replacement possibilities (with the possible exceptions of Ted Cruz and Rand Paul) so it’s best to keep Trump 2024 in the running.

    Keep an eye on Governors De Santis and Noem. They’re on my short list currently.

    How could I have forgotten De Santis? Don’t know anything about Noem. Still it’s a good idea to keep Trump 2024 in the running just to keep everyone honest if for no other reason.

    President and VP? There you go..

    • #38
  9. Gary Robbins Member
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    Headedwest (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon, you called for this impeachment in very strong terms. How are you feeling about it being ignored?

    It should be ignored. The only way impeachment/removal could have worked is if Pelosi delivered the articles the weekend following the riot and the Senate acted on it immediately. Instead, Pelosi took her sweet time. Once Trump left office on his own, removal was superfluous.

    I thought you wanted him never to be able to serve again.

    You had a long, angry post demanding that.

    Oh well?

    You seem disappointed that we (somewhat) agree now.

    I think Bryan is holding you accountable for probably the worst thing you have published on this site.

    With all due respect, what Jon posted was the best thing he has ever published on this site.  For those who have forgotten, here is a link to it.  https://ricochet.com/859769/impeach-remove-bar-from-office/

    • #39
  10. Gary Robbins Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon, you called for this impeachment in very strong terms. How are you feeling about it being ignored?

    It should be ignored. The only way impeachment/removal could have worked is if Pelosi delivered the articles the weekend following the riot and the Senate acted on it immediately. Instead, Pelosi took her sweet time. Once Trump left office on his own, removal was superfluous.

    I thought you wanted him never to be able to serve again.

    You had a long, angry post demanding that.

    Oh well?

    You seem disappointed that we (somewhat) agree now.

    I think Bryan is holding you accountable for probably the worst thing you have published on this site.

    No. I am wanting to understand. What seems to have happened is time has passed and Jon has moved on. This is not gotcha.

    People in the grip of a temporary enthusiasm will say things they later regret.

    Some double down on their mistake (the typical N-T approach); others, returning to their right minds, pretend it never happened.

    And there is the third group, “Never Again Trump,” of people who endorsed and voted for Trump like Liz Cheney and Mitch McConnell, who will never vote for Trump again.

    • #40
  11. Columbo Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon, you called for this impeachment in very strong terms. How are you feeling about it being ignored?

    It should be ignored. The only way impeachment/removal could have worked is if Pelosi delivered the articles the weekend following the riot and the Senate acted on it immediately. Instead, Pelosi took her sweet time. Once Trump left office on his own, removal was superfluous.

    I thought you wanted him never to be able to serve again.

    You had a long, angry post demanding that.

    Oh well?

    You seem disappointed that we (somewhat) agree now.

    I think Bryan is holding you accountable for probably the worst thing you have published on this site.

    With all due respect, what Jon posted was the best thing he has ever published on this site. For those who have forgotten, here is a link to it. https://ricochet.com/859769/impeach-remove-bar-from-office/

    I’ve got whiplash now. Who can I sue Counselor?

    • #41
  12. Kozak Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon, you called for this impeachment in very strong terms. How are you feeling about it being ignored?

    It should be ignored. The only way impeachment/removal could have worked is if Pelosi delivered the articles the weekend following the riot and the Senate acted on it immediately. Instead, Pelosi took her sweet time. Once Trump left office on his own, removal was superfluous.

    I thought you wanted him never to be able to serve again.

    You had a long, angry post demanding that.

    Oh well?

    You seem disappointed that we (somewhat) agree now.

    I think Bryan is holding you accountable for probably the worst thing you have published on this site.

    No. I am wanting to understand. What seems to have happened is time has passed and Jon has moved on. This is not gotcha.

    People in the grip of a temporary enthusiasm will say things they later regret.

    Some double down on their mistake (the typical N-T approach); others, returning to their right minds, pretend it never happened.

    And there is the third group, “Never Again Trump,” of people who endorsed and voted for Trump like Liz Cheney and Mitch McConnell, who will never vote for Trump again.

    • #42
  13. Kozak Member
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon, you called for this impeachment in very strong terms. How are you feeling about it being ignored?

    It should be ignored. The only way impeachment/removal could have worked is if Pelosi delivered the articles the weekend following the riot and the Senate acted on it immediately. Instead, Pelosi took her sweet time. Once Trump left office on his own, removal was superfluous.

    I thought you wanted him never to be able to serve again.

    You had a long, angry post demanding that.

    Oh well?

    You seem disappointed that we (somewhat) agree now.

    I think Bryan is holding you accountable for probably the worst thing you have published on this site.

    With all due respect, what Jon posted was the best thing he has ever published on this site. For those who have forgotten, here is a link to it. https://ricochet.com/859769/impeach-remove-bar-from-office/

    I’ve got whiplash now. Who can I sue Counselor?

    LOL. that group he mentions will be able to hold their meetings in Starbucks even with Covid restrictions.

    Councilor seems to be oblivious to 74 million voters.

    • #43
  14. Jules PA Inactive
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    • #44
  15. Jon Gabriel, Ed. Contributor
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    No I don’t understand. If you felt it vital he never serve in office again, then how is this something to be ignored? Have you changed your mind? Which is perfectly reasonable. 

    The most important thing to me was his removal from office so he wouldn’t cause more trouble. He didn’t cause any more trouble and left office on his own accord. At that point, the “barring” from future office was given to the voters, which I can live with.

    Also, I can’t stand it when politicians race into a box canyon and pretend to be shocked when they’re ambushed. When Pelosi delayed impeachment, everyone knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Senate would acquit. Why waste a second of legislative time? They delayed Covid relief for this?

    Perhaps I’ve read too many comments on my local newspaper’s site and was reacting to that, rather than your comment. There, when I write something they disagree with, they criticize that article, which makes sense. But when I write something they actually agree with, they criticize a past post they didn’t like. Basically, a heads-I-win, tails-you-lose situation. To be fair, everyone hates me in that comment section. :)

    • #45
  16. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    No I don’t understand. If you felt it vital he never serve in office again, then how is this something to be ignored? Have you changed your mind? Which is perfectly reasonable.

    The most important thing to me was his removal from office so he wouldn’t cause more trouble. He didn’t cause any more trouble and left office on his own accord. At that point, the “barring” from future office was given to the voters, which I can live with.

    Also, I can’t stand it when politicians race into a box canyon and pretend to be shocked when they’re ambushed. When Pelosi delayed impeachment, everyone knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Senate would acquit. Why waste a second of legislative time? They delayed Covid relief for this?

    Perhaps I’ve read too many comments on my local newspaper’s site and was reacting to that, rather than your comment. There, when I write something they disagree with, they criticize that article, which makes sense. But when I write something they actually agree with, they criticize a past post they didn’t like. Basically, a heads-I-win, tails-you-lose situation. To be fair, everyone hates me in that comment section. :)

    This is perfectly reasonable response. 

    Thank you. 

     

    • #46
  17. TBA Coolidge
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    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Perhaps I’ve read too many comments on my local newspaper’s site and was reacting to that, rather than your comment. There, when I write something they disagree with, they criticize that article, which makes sense. But when I write something they actually agree with, they criticize a past post they didn’t like. Basically, a heads-I-win, tails-you-lose situation. To be fair, everyone hates me in that comment section. :)

    If it makes you feel better I only hate you a little bit. 

    • #47
  18. Taras Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jon, you called for this impeachment in very strong terms. How are you feeling about it being ignored?

    It should be ignored. The only way impeachment/removal could have worked is if Pelosi delivered the articles the weekend following the riot and the Senate acted on it immediately. Instead, Pelosi took her sweet time. Once Trump left office on his own, removal was superfluous.

    I thought you wanted him never to be able to serve again.

    You had a long, angry post demanding that.

    Oh well?

    You seem disappointed that we (somewhat) agree now.

    I think Bryan is holding you accountable for probably the worst thing you have published on this site.

    No. I am wanting to understand. What seems to have happened is time has passed and Jon has moved on. This is not gotcha.

    People in the grip of a temporary enthusiasm will say things they later regret.

    Some double down on their mistake (the typical N-T approach); others, returning to their right minds, pretend it never happened.

    And there is the third group, “Never Again Trump,” of people who endorsed and voted for Trump like Liz Cheney and Mitch McConnell, who will never vote for Trump again.

    You may be too quick to number Cocaine Mitch among your tiny platoon of quisling Republicans.  

    He twice voted against Impeachment II, and the New York Times blames him for reducing the trial to absurdity by delaying it until after Trump left office.

    • #48
  19. JimGoneWild Coolidge
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    Forget it Jon. It’s Chinatown.

    • #49
  20. OmegaPaladin Moderator
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    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    No I don’t understand. If you felt it vital he never serve in office again, then how is this something to be ignored? Have you changed your mind? Which is perfectly reasonable.

    The most important thing to me was his removal from office so he wouldn’t cause more trouble. He didn’t cause any more trouble and left office on his own accord. At that point, the “barring” from future office was given to the voters, which I can live with.

    Also, I can’t stand it when politicians race into a box canyon and pretend to be shocked when they’re ambushed. When Pelosi delayed impeachment, everyone knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Senate would acquit. Why waste a second of legislative time? They delayed Covid relief for this?

    Perhaps I’ve read too many comments on my local newspaper’s site and was reacting to that, rather than your comment. There, when I write something they disagree with, they criticize that article, which makes sense. But when I write something they actually agree with, they criticize a past post they didn’t like. Basically, a heads-I-win, tails-you-lose situation. To be fair, everyone hates me in that comment section. :)

    I will state that I was asking the same question as Bryan.  In fact that’s why I came back to this thread, to see if you remained committed to the Orange Man Badwagon or had moved on.   To say I disagreed with your column is an understatement.  I was half tempted to leave the site and never return after your prior column.

    I am glad you changed your position / adapted it to events.

    • #50
  21. Columbo Inactive
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    JimGoneWild (View Comment):

    Forget it Jon. It’s Chinatown.

    Forget it @bryangstephens. It’s Chinatown.

    • #51
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