Senator Rand Paul vs Clinton Official George Stephanopoulos About Voter Fraud and the Election

 

On ABC’s “This Week” Sunday political show, there was an exchange today about the election:

 

Stephanopoulos, a former Clinton official, stated as a fact that the election was fairly won by Joe Biden. As evidence for this, he cited that the results were certified. Evidently, certification is never done incorrectly. I guess he would also say there was no voter fraud when Lyndon Johnson won the 1948 Democratic Senatorial primary in Texas, since it was certified. Box 13 didn’t exist. Intimidation of Republicans refusing to certify results in Michigan also didn’t exist.

The second piece of evidence in favor of election integrity is the Justice Department signing off on it. We can all trust the bureaucrats in that department. The destruction of Arthur Anderson based on specious arguments didn’t happen. The prosecution of Senator Ted Stevens, which was thrown out, must have been impeccable. Let’s see the Justice Department investigation and the solons who did it.

Rand responded that the election was not carried out in many states based on the Constitution which states that electoral rules are set by the state legislatures; George didn’t deal with that argument. By itself, that could have changed the election. A real reporter, Sheryl Attkisson has come up with quite a list.

It’s time for the mainstream media to start investigating fraud rather than repeating tired arguments that it could not have changed the election.

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  1. kedavis Member
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    Richard Easton: The Clinton liar (he lied about Gennifer Flowers) stated as a fact that the election was fairly won by Joe Biden. As evidence for this, he cited that the results were certified.

    Gary Robbins makes the same “argument.” 

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  2. Kozak Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Richard Easton: The Clinton liar (he lied about Gennifer Flowers) stated as a fact that the election was fairly won by Joe Biden. As evidence for this, he cited that the results were certified.

    Gary Robbins makes the same “argument.”

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  3. Sisyphus Inactive
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    I just ran across the Rand interview. Thanks for posting it. Stephanopoulos just white washed every reading test voting requirement, every 105% voting turnout, every dirty political machine in history, there have been very few crooked elections in history that failed to achieve certification. It is foolish to even suggest it. It sounds like Hunter is writing the script.

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  4. Kozak Member
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    And the first act of the new House is to guarantee every election from here on out is stolen.

    Including such “reforms” as:

    1) Internet-only registration with electronic signature submission.

    2) Banning the requirement to provide a full SSN for voter registration.

    3) Nationwide ‘Motor Voter’ registration.

    4) 16 year olds required to be registered to vote.

    5) Nationwide same-day registration

    6) Grants ($25M) for using minors in election activities

    7) More children voters

    8) Prohibiting attempts to clean voter rolls of non-residents.

    9) Murderers and rapists can vote.

    10) Mandatory early voting.

    11) THE BIG ONE – NATIONWIDE VOTE BY MAIL, BAN ON BALLOT PROTECTION MEASURES, LEGALIZED LIMITLESS BALLOT HARVESTING.

     

    But Trump was icky, and had mean tweets.

     

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  5. kedavis Member
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Richard Easton: The Clinton liar (he lied about Gennifer Flowers) stated as a fact that the election was fairly won by Joe Biden. As evidence for this, he cited that the results were certified.

    Gary Robbins makes the same “argument.”

     

    Another nice graphic added to my collection, thank you!

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  6. JamesSalerno Coolidge
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    This is why I have always said that we cannot simply put “election reform” on the 2022 agenda. This needs to be investigated now and all guilty parties should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, including treason where applicable.

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  7. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge
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    Rand is a fighter and my favorite Senator. I wish we had 90 more Senators like him. Hey people of Utah, upgrade your Mitt to a Rand.

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  8. tigerlily Member
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    Let me post the video below. It really is amazing how important it is to the media that everyone agree with the notion that the election was just peachy keen. Stephanopolis just can’t let go and keeps having to have the last word. It’s really kinda pathetic.

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  9. Boss Mongo Member
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    Sen. Paul should have said, “George, you sound like you’re back in the Clinton war room threatening women.”

    Is it just me, or does Georgie-pooh look like his rectum is so tight, he’s turning oatmeal into diamonds. Why is that, I wonder?

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  10. GeezerBob Coolidge
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    Your not giving the right answer, Senator! Let me talk over you until you do!

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  11. JamesSalerno Coolidge
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    Yeesh, even the title of that video – “Rand Paul melts down…”

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  12. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    @kozak

    The graphic is off my HD.

    Of course, since it is nigh impossible to deal with catching any vote count totals being flipped when the flip occurs due to electronic machinery – unless observed in real time – the reality is now descending that all things related to elections are electronic.

    This is especially true given how this new regulation has been proposed by the Dems, 1) Internet-only registration with electronic signature submission per Kozak’s remarks above, we have lost any possibility of ever having a free election again:

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  13. Saint Augustine Member
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    Richard Easton:

    Rand responded that the election was not conducted in many states based on the Constitution which states that electoral rules are set by the state legislatures. George didn’t deal with that argument. By itself, that could have changed the election. A real reporter, Sheryl Attkisson has come up with quite a list. 

    https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/12/what-youve-been-asking-for-a-fairly-complete-list-of-some-of-the-most-significant-claims-of-2020-election-miscounts-errors-or-fraud/

    Well! Thanks!

    I never said I was gonna be thorough myself, but . . . I guess I at least ought to link to this.

    Here’s my list, with distinctions between the claims that are just still standing, claims that aren’t, and claims that have survived some level of critical scrutiny or fact-checking.

    https://ricochet.com/822533/keeping-track-of-election-fraud/#

    I think illegal stuff did change the election. Dang.

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  14. philo Member
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    I cannot quite decide if Georgie is really just that good at the “stick to the narrative at all costs” skill that now permeates his trade or if he genuinely does not have the slightest clue about the line of argument being presented by Mr. Paul. While the latter is very common among dolts and Arizona Democrats trolling “center right” comment threads (but I repeat myself), but given several months now to at least familiarize oneself with the opponents material I would find the lack on intellectual curiosity among such a well paid class of nominal “thinkers” (yea, I giggled just typing that) almost criminal. But that’s just me…

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  15. philo Member
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    Richard Easton: Rand responded that the election was not carried out in many states based on the Constitution which states that electoral rules are set by the state legislatures; George didn’t deal with that argument. By itself, that could have changed the election. A real reporter, Sheryl Attkisson has come up with quite a list.

    I hadn’t seen her list. I have been partial to the summary included in this offering from Mark Levin:

    Mark Levin: January 6 is the day we learn whether our Constitution will hold and whether congressional Republicans care

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  16. Front Seat Cat Member
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    This is just one piece of the nightmare. Rand Paul is right – there was little time and little effort in doing the research – and it should still be done. That election evening the map was more red and a couple hours into the night it flipped dramatically. It was very fishy. I hope they turn over every rock. Now the smearing is continuing with anyone who worked for or voted for Trump – you are talking about silencing half the country and discrimination to the tenth degree. The whole blasted thing is sinister.

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  17. JamesSalerno Coolidge
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    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    This is just one piece of the nightmare. Rand Paul is right – there was little time and little effort in doing the research – and it should still be done. That election evening the map was more red and a couple hours into the night it flipped dramatically. It was very fishy. I hope they turn over every rock. Now the smearing is continuing with anyone who worked for or voted for Trump – you are talking about silencing half the country and discrimination to the tenth degree. The whole blasted thing is sinister.

    Here’s the thing, what happens if these cases are heard, and there is enough evidence to disqualify the election? Is it too late at that stage? Impeachment of Biden? Something else?

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  18. kedavis Member
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    JamesSalerno (View Comment):

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    This is just one piece of the nightmare. Rand Paul is right – there was little time and little effort in doing the research – and it should still be done. That election evening the map was more red and a couple hours into the night it flipped dramatically. It was very fishy. I hope they turn over every rock. Now the smearing is continuing with anyone who worked for or voted for Trump – you are talking about silencing half the country and discrimination to the tenth degree. The whole blasted thing is sinister.

    Here’s the thing, what happens if these cases are heard, and there is enough evidence to disqualify the election? Is it too late at that stage? Impeachment of Biden? Something else?

    It seems like at least some of the judges these cases were presented to, said up front that they wouldn’t grant the remedy being sought even if the cases were proven.

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  19. Saint Augustine Member
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    JamesSalerno (View Comment):
    Here’s the thing, what happens if these cases are heard, and there is enough evidence to disqualify the election? Is it too late at that stage? Impeachment of Biden? Something else?

    https://ricochet.com/862124/where-do-we-go-from-here/

    Best I can do.

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