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Rep. Jim Jordan Seeks to Oust Rep. Liz Cheney from Leadership
According to this Politico article, Republican Rep. Jim Jordan plans to move to oust Rep. Liz Cheney from her position as the House Republican Conference Chair. Cheney previously announced her support for the impeachment of President Trump. According to the same article, the top two Republicans in the House — Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and Minority Whip Steve Scalise — oppose impeachment.
This strikes me as a proper response to Cheney’s action. As I have posted previously, I find the calls for Trump’s impeachment to be a deranged overreaction. It is very disappointing to see some erstwhile conservatives and Republicans supporting such an action.
Rep. Cheney is entitled to her opinion and may vote as she sees fit. I think that it is quite proper for her House colleagues to remove her from a leadership position, if they disagree strongly with her on such an important issue.
I do expect that any Republican Congressmen or Senators who support impeachment to face a serious primary challenge in their next election. Rightfully so, in my view.
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Gary acts like the Republican Party is “dirty water” that needs to be poured through a filter, but then he wants to save the “crud” left in the filter as the True Republicans, rather than the water that passes through.
Liz Cheney’s personal preference to impeach Trump isn’t the issue. That she voiced her opinion, while holding the position of Republican Conference Chairwoman and the #3 ranking Republican in the House, without consulting the Republican Conference is.
I don’t really care if she doesn’t like Donald Trump or believes he actually incited a riot – which, as far as I’m concerned is a ridiculous assertion based on the actual text of Trump’s speech, the timeline of events, the evidence of Antifa agent provocateurs who were actually engaged in violence and vandalism and responsible in large part for the incitement. As the 3rd ranking Republican in the House, she was obligated to consult with her own damn party before shooting her mouth off.
I also believe she let her own personal animus toward the President overshadow what is actually best for the country. My hope is that she loses her leadership position and also gets primaried in Wyoming when she’s up for re-election too long from now. Based on her position she may have just killed any chance in any future Republican administration – that is if the GOP can actually win another Presidential election – but they definitely won’t win one as long as Liz Cheney has any position of influence in the party.
From Newsmax this morning:
Probably need to keep an eye on the freshman Congressman from Montana. He may have a future.
Never Trumpers have no share in and can claim no credit for expanding the Republican coalition in this past election, i.e. the highest minority votes for Republicans since 1960. Trump did that. He inspired millions of African Americans and Hispanics to see the Republican Party as a viable alternative to the decades and decades of voting for the Democrats and getting the same failed policies. The walk away movement, taking the red pill, the rise of Candice Owens, Kim Klacik, and so many other black Republicans all happened during and because of Trump’s outreach and legislation record on their behalf. What the Republican Party does to maintain and expand this new voter base and challenge Democrat control on the local level will be key to the party’s future. Never Trumpers are welcome to join us in this endeavor, but they (a single digit percentage of the party) get 0% of the credit and have yet to offer any ideas or innovative ways to build upon the foundation that Trump has established.
Senator Tom Cotton supports most of Trump’s policy positions, but doesn’t go along with Trump’s personality “quirks.” I could easily vote for Tom Cotton. You would get Trump’s policies but not Trump himself. Deal?
Not sure what “events” you mean here. I think Trump acted like an idiot post election since he did not put ALL his energy into winning GA and saving the Senate, the only thing that mattered after the election. But anything rising to the level of a “high crime and misdemeanor” is nowhere to be seen. Still, “impeachment” has come to have about as much meaning as “racism,” so you may be right. NOTHING is ludicrous today.
Cotton is done. He will never attain higher office than Senator…unless he changes his party affiliation. 70+ million won’t forget.
Of course, you can oppose both. But when you do that you are also in opposition to those who support President Trump’s administration. If, in fact, you oppose Trump’s administration, are we to think you are a disloyal American. I think not. But if you start supporting the CCP as it appears some Democrats might be doing based on behavior, I might rethink that.
In Arizona they sure are. Before Arizona was admitted as a state in 1912, Arizona was going to be the 47th state and New Mexico would be the 48th state. However, President Taft disagreed with the provision in our Constitution that allowed for the recall of Judges and he vetoed our admission. Arizona then took out the offending provision and President Taft signed our admission on February 14, [Edit. 1912
2012], making us the “Valentine State.” At the November 2012 election, we added the recall of judges as part of our constitution.Cheney is the Republican House Conference Chair. I assume that she can be voted out of her position.
I don’t get this.
Votes? Elections? Seriously? Even if the Electoral College remains, what difference at this point does it make?
Cheney appears not to understand well the leadership responsibilities in a peer relationship position, maybe too inexperienced, and her foreign policy positions don’t fit well with the President she’s willing to impeach. She needs to be out of the House minority leadership.
I am grateful for so many things that Donald Trump did while in office. For example, his quickly sizing up the security threat the Huawei 5G network presented and his working to get American technology out in front of it, which we did, thanks to his quick response to this challenge:
I don’t see real leadership like this among the Trump-obsessed Republicans. I will not be voting for any of them in the future.
Cotton danced on a tightrope trying appease both factions of the GOP – said he wouldn’t raise any objections to any of the election fraud CLEARLY evident in any of the contested states during the EC session in Congress but supported a commission to study and audit the election results after the Biden inauguration – like that was going to happen. Not exactly a display of courage. A display of calculated appeasement. This actually has nothing to do with Trump. It was a revelation of his personal character. His strident rhetoric prior to this move was refreshing to hear. But when the going got rough… It also reminded me of George H.W. Bush constantly and sternly pronouncing: “Read my lips. No new taxes!” Only to cave. Which is why he was a one-term POTUS.
Fine. I’m just not into ideological purity tests, particularly with people we need who have proven to be stand-up far more often than not. I don’t see Cotton as a presidential contender, but I don’t want him marginalized either.
This is the true danger to President Trump now as these Congress critters weigh the effects of their actions on their political careers. It is a shame that they are allowed to have lifetime careers in the Congress. We get bad effects all over the place. We are now beginning the habit of Senators becoming POTUS.
Not advocating marginalizing him. Just pointing out that he probably ruined his chances to
runfor Presidentachieve the Presidency.It seems to me that the majority of those who voted for Trump are keeping their eyes on Ron DeSantis and Kristi Noem – because they’re more steadfast and reliable in their conservatism and policy promises and now have successful records as chief executives of their states. I personally like DeSantis’ unapologetic tenacity. It reminds me of someone.
It is very difficult to abandon a principle I have lived by, which is that any Republican is better than any Democrat. The Republicans’ inability to see that fact these past two months has made me think that it’s not a fact at all and that if they don’t see a difference, then there probably isn’t one. I’ve been fooling myself. No point in voting for either party. They must be the same.
I felt this way until I heard the latest episode of the podcast “Hold these Truths” by Dan Crenshaw. He laid out a very compelling case that the objections during the counting was both against the Constitution and did not follow the law written in the late 1800s. Unfortunately, the only option was a commission. We have been let down by the courts, state officers and changes in voting rules using the excuse of Covid.
DeSantis has demonstrated what I consider good signs for presidential material. Avoiding completely exactly what has hurt Cotton. The mindset in the Congress can overtake and wipe out the traits that voters admired. DeSantis didn’t let that happen.
I think they would be very clarifying. Your Vichy GOP will hold its next convention in a phone booth.
This is not accurate (bold type above). I don’t think you meant to say something that was untrue but raising objections during the Electoral College session is essentially done at every EC session and in 2016 the number of states objected to by the Democrats exceeded the number of states that Republicans objected to in 2020. There is absolutely nothing unconstitutional about that.
Cheney is showing leadership by standing up for her principles. Good for her. She did not spread the lie about stolen elections and rightly places blame at Trump’s feet for what happened on 1/6. I will gladly take her side in whatever fights come next. It’s a shame that the GOP is tearing itself apart over Trump’s fragile ego.
Mo Brooks should have been the Alabama Senator the last four years. He wanted to run but McConnell blocked him from fund raising, resulting in the fiasco that resulted in Jones being elected. The corrupt AG, who had been pursuing corruption charges against the corrupt Governor, was appointed to the Senate seat in a deal that ended the corruption investigation of the Governor. When the next election came along, with no Brooks in the primary, the corrupt ex-AG , Strange, lost to Roy Moore who is an odd figure in Alabama politics. A fierce smear campaign was run against Moore and Jones was elected. McConnell was responsible for losing that seat. Typically, Gary misses the point about Mo Brooks.
No, no they are not subject to recall. Your state Constitution does not over rule the Federal Constitution. There is no provision for recall in the US Constitution and thus no member of the House or Senate has ever been recalled.
Might be a good idea to allow it, but we would have to amend the US Constitution, not the Arizona Constitution.
I see the heavy hand of then administrators who seem bent on the purging of any member that disagrees with them.
Not sure what Trump’s fragile ego has to do with mountains of evidence and thousands of sworn affidavits of election fraud that were never examined in a court of law. You may be of the belief that Trump has some mystical God-like power to rob his followers of any critical thinking skills and fundamentally transform them into a mindless army of zombies but that – and I’m just spitballing here – may say more about you than those who have legitimate questions about unlawful and illegitimate occurrences and statistical impossible anomalies during the election.
Cotton is a Registered Republican, a Senator from Arkansas.
To the Moderator:
What you deem insults are more accurately described as the truth, and therefore, should have been recognized as constructive criticism.
To Gary:
You have lost your way and you have been diverted into some unnecessary battle to defeat Trump, Trumpism, and trying to resuscitate an (R) Party model that has more than proven to be expert in giving ground, retreating, and losing elections.
Conservatives are battling to defeat the (D) and it’s Leftist ideology, and with Trump (R) voters were given an alternative to the generic calm submissive miniature poodle brand of (R) candidate*(see below) (R) voters had always been given.
At this point I would concur it is apparent the Trump as the (R) alternative candidate experiment has run it’s course and moving forward (R)’s would be well served to find a “less polarizing figure” to lead, while also acknowledging that whomever that ostensibly “less polarizing figure” is, will suddenly become the most polarizing worst person in the world the moment the (R) candidate is put into the (D)/MSM/Culture Combine cross hairs.
With one week left in his Presidency, Trump is leaving office by law and I seriously doubt he will have the support to run for national office again, and while Trump may attempt to exert his political influence I do not believe Trump can actually provide a coherent ideological movement for (R)’s to coalesce around in the future.
There are many other leaders on the Conservative side who can provide a Conservative agenda most of the (R) voters can coalesce around, and it should be obvious to rational thinkers that starting in January of 2021 on the path to winning (R) majorities in 2022 and 2024 by proposing a recall effort of current (R) office holders is exactly the wrong path.
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Okay…I’ll try this one last time – the two previous times I asked this question not a single soul on Ricochet offered any dispute to this: Can anyone cite another Presidential election in the United States since 1960 that had more claims of election fraud than the Presidential election of 2020?
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
I am on it already. Here is my letter to our Secretary of State:
Dear Secretary of State Hobbs:
A.R.S. §§19-221 and 222 state the following:
19-221. Statement on recall in Arizona
19-222. Pledge to resign subject to recall
Have United States Representatives Andy Biggs, Paul Gosar, Debbie Lesko, and David Schweikert signed statements under A.R.S. §§19-221 and 222?
Very Truly Yours,