I Love This Fence Outside the Capitol

 

This fence is my photo of the week. Thanks to Architectus for the photo. Unfortunately, it should have been in place on January 5th outside the Capitol building. This fence would have prevented the launching of a thousand posts, media punditry, and stupid comments from Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer. The impeachment word would have disappeared, as well as hundreds of thousands of comments.

One woman and one Capitol police officer might still be alive if this fence had been in place on January 5th. We wouldn’t have been subjected to videos of violent morons trashing the interior of the Capitol. We wouldn’t have had to listen to morons that were silent for months on violence in American cities that were subjected to mostly peaceful protests. There were a lot of rioters that got their Christmas shoplifting done in those summer months.

The Capitol building has been closed for public tours since March. It opened again on January 6th. Fences and the word “no” are such lovely things.

PHOTO: Members of the D.C. National Guard walk behind a fence placed around the U.S. Capitol building on Jan. 08, 2021.

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  1. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge
    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!)
    @DonG

    Doug Watt: The Capitol building has been closed for public tours since March. It opened again on January 6th.

    I am shaking my head. Not only did Pelosi refuse national guard assistance, but opened the Capitol to visitors? Is that why some of the “rioters” are seen walking between velvet ropes looking at statues? It seems like the people in charge of Jeffery Epstein’s prison security were put in charge Capitol security for a day.

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  2. Hoyacon Member
    Hoyacon
    @Hoyacon

    I am hearing on the news that the FBI was provided with intelligence–messages, etc.– on Jan. 5 indicating that there would be trouble on the next day. Had they acted, it seems likely that fencing of this sort could have been installed. But that, of course, is Trump’s fault.

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  3. Richard Easton Member
    Richard Easton
    @RichardEaston

    The fence isn’t high enough. The politicians might get out. https://babylonbee.com/news/congress-upset-as-theyre-the-only-criminals-allowed-in-the-capitol

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  4. Ray Kujawa Coolidge
    Ray Kujawa
    @RayKujawa

    The lack of a fence, lax security and a major gathering of conservatives were necessary to: permit the orchestrated violence that resulted in upsetting the Congressional hearings on objections to the slates of electors from swing states; to prevent the American people (some of them) for the first time hearing valid concerns about election integrity in those states; to get some Senators and Congress people on the right to back down from sustaining their own objections; to be able to smear all Trump supporters and MAGA people by association; to permit a woman Trump supporter with very bad judgment about where she ought to be that day to be murdered in cold blood; to permit a policeman (another Trump supporter) to be killed by being hit in the head with a fire extinguisher by a rioter; to justify turning off the President’s primary soapbox to converse with the American people; to stifle a growing free speech social media outlet increasingly favored by conservatives so that breaking news about election investigations and developments regarding foreign interference and hacking of the vote tallies until after the inauguration; to justify the pogroming of Trump supporters and Republicans who will not agree to tow the unity line; and finally, to justify an impeachment which if carried through to conviction, would have the effect of preventing the President from ever running for office again. (if I had to guess, I’d say all this shows the Democrats are actually terrified of the prospect of Trump ever running again, even if it is 2024.)

    And so now we have this beautiful fence. I hate it. What it represents is a barrier between the people and the offices of government (these improved fences are also going up at the White House and the Supreme Court). It isn’t right. These fences would never have gone up if the President had won reelection, because the Democrats like having the option of using their unaccountable thugs of choice when it is convenient. Now these fences will remain as a reminder of a travesty that occurred, at least until the Republicans can regain both houses of Congress and the presidency. The Democrats will want the fence to stay permanently as a sullen reminder of what cultish followers are capable of doing under the flawed leadership and character of an evil person. This is one example of history that must be immune from being torn down, it must remain as a testament to the day those women and men had to cower and barricade themselves in their chambers. 

    If there is one bright spot for having the fence, it might be that Chief Justices like John Roberts won’t have to be as fearful about riots happening, so he might be more likely to vote his conscience (but I wouldn’t count on it).

    I hate the fence.

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  5. Charlotte Member
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    @Charlotte

    Ray Kujawa (View Comment):
    And so now we have this beautiful fence. I hate it. What it represents is a barrier between the people and the offices of government (these improved fences are also going up at the White House and the Supreme Court). It isn’t right. These fences would never have gone up if the President had won reelection, because the Democrats like having the option of using their unaccountable thugs of choice when it is convenient. Now these fences will remain as a reminder of a travesty that occurred, at least until the Republicans can regain both houses of Congress and the presidency. The Democrats will want the fence to stay permanently as a sullen reminder of what cultish followers are capable of doing under the flawed leadership and character of an evil person. This is one example of history that must be immune from being torn down, it must remain as a testament to the day those women and men had to cower and barricade themselves in their chambers. 

    Yes.

    No one should cheer the installation of yet more ugly barricades (fences, walls, bollards, jersey barriers, checkpoints, concrete blocks) in the nation’s capital, and around the nation’s Capitol. (There are already so many it’s really shocking to see.) It’s hideous and sickening. Do we want a free and open society or not? Do we want visitors to come here from abroad and be impressed, or just annoyed and disappointed?

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  6. Charlotte Member
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    @Charlotte

    And if the argument is that such measures should be implemented temporarily to deal with large public events, well, that’s not how things work in DC.

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  7. Ekosj Member
    Ekosj
    @Ekosj

    I thought fences, walls and other physical barriers were useless. Weren’t we told to build bridges not fences?

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  8. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge
    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!)
    @DonG

    Ekosj (View Comment):

    I thought fences, walls and other physical barriers were useless. Weren’t we told to build bridges not fences?

    This metaphor is excellent. If anyplace needs a bridge, it is the chasm between citizens and their representatives. 

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  9. Vance Richards Member
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    @VanceRichards

    Charlotte (View Comment):
    It’s hideous and sickening. Do we want a free and open society or not? Do we want visitors to come here from abroad and be impressed, or just annoyed and disappointed?

    What, no razor wire?

    Charlotte (View Comment):

    And if the argument is that such measures should be implemented temporarily to deal with large public events, well, that’s not how things work in DC.

    Yeah, I’m good with something like that for specific events (like the rally last week or the inauguration), but that can’t be a permanent feature .

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  10. John Park Member
    John Park
    @jpark

    Charlotte is right. Things like this become a permanent feature.

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  11. MarciN Member
    MarciN
    @MarciN

    Doug Watt: The Capitol building has been closed for public tours since March. It opened again on January 6th.

    That is fascinating. It will be interesting to see what becomes of that fact, why they suddenly opened up the building. Did no one know about the rally?

    Love this post.

    When eight Who fans were stampeded upon and died at a rock concert, the final decision in the lawsuits and investigations was that the concert organizers were at fault for offering first come, first served seating.

    I think Congress will be found more responsible than Donald Trump when the dust settles.

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  12. Doug Watt Moderator
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    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):

    Doug Watt: The Capitol building has been closed for public tours since March. It opened again on January 6th.

    I am shaking my head. Not only did Pelosi refuse national guard assistance, but opened the Capitol to visitors? Is that why some of the “rioters” are seen walking between velvet ropes looking at statues? It seems like the people in charge of Jeffery Epstein’s prison security were put in charge Capitol security for a day.

    The “opening” on January 6th was my sarcastic observation of a lack of preparation for the riot. The Capitol building was not open to the public on January 6th.

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  13. Doug Watt Moderator
    Doug Watt
    @DougWatt

    The fence does not have to be a permanent feature outside the Capitol building. The vast majority of the protestors were peaceful, but the videos indicate that the most violent in the crowd were not there for a peaceful, and rational discussion of whatever aggrieved them.

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  14. Percival Thatcher
    Percival
    @Percival

    Needs a moat.

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  15. Concretevol Thatcher
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    @Concretevol

    Percival (View Comment):

    Needs a moat.

    Spoken like a true Knight

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  16. Arthur Beare Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    I think Congress will be found more responsible than Donald Trump when the dust settles.

    Found by whom? And if such finding were made, how likely do you think it that the public would be told?

     

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  17. The Cloaked Gaijin Member
    The Cloaked Gaijin
    @TheCloakedGaijin

    Doug Watt:

    The impeachment word would have disappeared…

    It will NEVER disappear!

     

     

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  18. MarciN Member
    MarciN
    @MarciN

    Arthur Beare (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    I think Congress will be found more responsible than Donald Trump when the dust settles.

    Found by whom? And if such finding were made, how likely do you think it that the public would be told?

     

    I assume there will be an investigation at some point if for no other reason than just to find out where the holes were in the defense of the Capitol so they can make sure to fix their personnel and procedures.

    Knowing the mood in Washington, the Democrats will probably want to pin all the blame on Donald Trump, which I do not think they will be able to do. The Capitol should have been better prepared. There could have been a million reasons why someone or a group of people would break into the Capitol. They should always be prepared for that possibility. I can’t imagine why they weren’t, especially given the summer we just spent with riots across the country and in Washington. The two buildings I would think that would have the tightest security in the country would be the White House and the Capitol. Something went wrong. 

    I doubt the public would be told of the holes in the security system simply for national security reasons. But at some point in the future, we’ll get some information as to what happened. 

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  19. MarciN Member
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    @MarciN

    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) (View Comment):

    Doug Watt: The Capitol building has been closed for public tours since March. It opened again on January 6th.

    I am shaking my head. Not only did Pelosi refuse national guard assistance, but opened the Capitol to visitors? Is that why some of the “rioters” are seen walking between velvet ropes looking at statues? It seems like the people in charge of Jeffery Epstein’s prison security were put in charge Capitol security for a day.

    The “opening” on January 6th was my sarcastic observation of a lack of preparation for the riot. The Capitol building was not open to the public on January 6th.

    I’m sorry. I did not understand that. I read it in a hurry. :-) 

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  20. Cow Girl Thatcher
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    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    Charlotte said: And if the argument is that such measures should be implemented temporarily to deal with large public events, well, that’s not how things work in DC.

    Yeah, I’m good with something like that for specific events (like the rally last week or the inauguration), but that can’t be a permanent feature .

    That is one thing about D.C. Once they start something, they NEVER end it! I really, really hope those fences will be taken down after the inauguration of President ( yeah…sure….) Biden.

    That trait (never ending it) was one of the reasons they loathed Pres. Trump so much! He came in and changed things! He did not listen to The Norms of the Inter-agencies…(or whatever that guy called it.) (That was a wonderful moment when that fool named the very thing that Trump voters had chosen Trump for—to SHAKE UP the stupid Inter-agencies.) 

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  21. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    @ChrisCampion

    It may be that Congress pooped itself, collectively, when it was discovered that there is literally no barrier between them and the people they purport to represent. Now they want a fence.

    Note that prior protests, like the #MeToo march, that essentially did the same thing to one of the Senate office buildings (hundreds of protestors on every floor of the building, but it wasn’t violent) – but for a different reason, so, um, no impeachments, I guess.

    I’m on both sides. I’d prefer it if chowderheads weren’t allowed to stream into public offices, unrestricted, but I also don’t like the insular world 535 of our betters have created for themselves, with our money.

    The other thing that would have prevented the riot is if the rally or protest hadn’t been scheduled on the day of the vote, or at a different location, or both. But I also get that if you think the election was stolen, or even if it was highly shaky, and you have 70 million people you really do think support you, what do you do?

    I think Trump’s not knowing of how things would work against him, led him right into a situation that would be unlikely to have a positive outcome. That a small group of what I can only describe as anarchists seemed to lead the way into the capitol, is just the result of providing a great opportunity for something horrible to happen, even if your average Joe and Jane Trump supporter were outside, at the protest, not interested in breaking a thing, but interested in having their voices heard, for a change.

    But only heard. Not felt. Now they’re essentially tarred, permanently, by the half of the country looking for a reason to disdain them.

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  22. Basil Fawlty Member
    Basil Fawlty
    @BasilFawlty

    Good fences make good nabobs.

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  23. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    @ChrisCampion

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Good fences make good nabobs.

    No word yet on what makes for good nattering.

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  24. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Gazpacho Grande' (View Comment):

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Good fences make good nabobs.

    No word yet on what makes for good nattering.

    Negativism?

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  25. I Walton Member
    I Walton
    @IWalton

    Almost certainly the invasion was planed by the left. I don’t know why we can’t quickly find anyone in on the plot. Some of the police knew as did others including some of the kids who broke in. Of course we always have folks who will follow the crowd into trouble, but it wasn’t just an accident.

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