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Impeach. Remove. Bar from Office.
For two months, President Donald Trump has promoted increasingly unhinged conspiracy theories and fanned the flames of outrage among his most dedicated supporters. Today, America learned that some people on the fringe took this all too seriously. Following a particularly ugly Trump speech, the crowd tore down barriers surrounding the US Capitol, assaulted police officers, and forced their way in. The following photos are not from Caracas or Minsk, but the capital city of the most powerful nation on earth.
At the Trump rally, Rudy Giuliani called for a “trial by combat.” He got it. Multiple injuries to law enforcement officers have been reported by the Capitol Police.
Shots were reported fired in the Capitol itself. One “protestor” was shot in the neck and carried away on a stretcher.
As the siege intensified, Trump blasted his own vice president on Twitter for refusing to break the law and overturn the election.
Senators, Representatives, and Capitol Hill staff fled the building for safety.
Later, Trump tweeted that his supporters shouldn’t use violence against the police. It was already too late.
Trump finally uploaded a video, spending the vast majority of the time claiming the election was stolen, but adding that the mob ransacking the Capitol should go home.
These are not protestors. They are terrorists. They are insurrectionists.
Just like Antifa over the summer, MAGAtifa needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
GOP Senators planning to protest the vote need to stop their grandstanding and accept the results.
Since the sitting president seems unwilling to strenuously condemn the violence he urged on, Vice President Pence should confer with the Cabinet to remove Trump via the 25th Amendment of the Constitution.
Congress should then bar Donald Trump from ever holding a future federal office.
Enough.
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Talk about being unhinged.
Nah – let them set up an autonomous zone in the capital.
Right??? I attempted to get through all comments before commenting myself, mainly to see if anyone else had seized upon this particular bit so apologies if it’s already been done but . . . Jon, I love you but please clarify that one sentence in your post. Are you saying “just like Antifa . . . [was?] prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law”?
Or are you saying that these people at the Capitol should be prosecuted thusly just like Antifa should have been? Because I have yet to see any clear evidence that anyone from Antifa has even a passing acquaintance with penalties associated with the “fullest extent of the law.”
Since I’m in a state of deep despair over the news feed today — from Georgia to DC and beyond — I’m way too far in my cups now to compose a brand new comment on this subject, so forgive me for posting instead an excerpt from my recent post in the PIT:
WRONG- he is Jake Angeli a QAnon nut
put down the kool-aid before you get hurt
https://www.yahoo.com/news/qanon-supporter-arizona-dressed-fur-221131030.html
He called for the National Guard to restore order and told the people to go home, which is FAR FAR more than any Democrat did in their cities.
And you have never called for those Democrats to be removed, now have you Gary.
Since this was misunderstood, I can rephrase it to better express my meaning: “Antifa and MAGAitifa need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.” All of these terrorists should be treated the same.
Weren’t the capital police sent home? Or was that just the DC police?
Why bother with journalism when you can just retweet MSM talking points. I mean, actually gathering facts before rendering judgment is so old-fashioned.
In a visual age, symbolism matters. We would all be outraged if one person with a Hammer-and-Sickle flag paraded it around the rotunda. It’s not a bring-your-own-contrary-allegiance kinda place.
You’d think someone like @exjon would at least be smart enough by now – if not previously – to not simply assume that people rioting while carrying Trump signs etc, are actually Trump supporters.
Gary, I’ve disagreed with much of what you’ve written today, but I agree with this.
Prior to the interruption, both the House and the Senate were doing a fine job addressing the objection. Speaker Pelosi was giving both sides a chance to speak, as was Vice President Pence as he presided over the Senate.
Not when the Editor in Chief, the Boss, is willing to make a post like this.
Clearly, management does not actually value calm, thoughtful discussions.
I’ll add this post as one of many reasons I regret officially changing my registration to R.
A party with a lot of people I would not want to be in a foxhole with.
We were aided by circumstances.
Hey if it’s good enough for Seattle etc, it should be okay for DC! They can get right to work planting a pizza garden, etc.
When I heard that they were going to reconvene, my reaction was “Damn Right.”
I’ve seen absolutely no indication that anyone is opposed to condemning the malefactors, throwing them in jail, and hopefully identifying them regardless of their allegiances. What’s problematical is the lightweight assumption that somehow a leader can control every single one of his supporters, and, if he does not control every single one of his supporters, that it’s completely on him and his rhetoric. What’s also problematical is the refusal of some here to even consider that a portion of the bad acting may come from another side.
Of these, the most important is a conviction with a bar on serving in office again. I’m worried he’s going to run again in 2024. If he wins the Republican primaries, he could screw up our chance of getting Biden (or Harris) out of office. If he wins the Presidency, he could screw up the country.
I’m glad for several things he did in office. I wanted him to win in November. But he is a man of awful character who is unfit to serve as President. And worse for our long-term prospects, he corrupts our better, more conservative politicians. Too many of them are sucking up to him and turning away from the principles they claimed to uphold.
But, they were not.
No on on the left is ever brought to account.
No, today is apparently the day for RUSH TO JUDGMENT. The Trump-haters have been given the closing scene they always wanted. What we’re seeing in this thread is bloodlust.
Vince, this is very helpful. I saw other reports that identified this guy with QAnon.
So far, BLM/Antifa haven’t been prosecuted. So, for “all of these terrorists to be treated the same,” that means these current ones don’t get prosecuted either.
But he didn’t say “We won’t concede until there’s a satisfactory investigation.” He said “never concede.”
I can’t believe you believe that all Donald Trump wants is an investigation. Does that seem like all he wants? It sure doesn’t to me.
Now I will readily admit that he may not have meant to incite violence. But thinking more than a half-step ahead is not exactly the man’s strong suit.
Yes. Removal from office and a bar on holding future offices are the two possible punishments the Senate can impose on an impeachment conviction.
Ah, I understand. Yes, that is better.
What do we know about the individuals who invaded the Capitol building, Jon? Do we know that they were in fact Trump supporters, who instigated it, how many of them there were?
Since you’re calling for impeachment over this event, I assume you have this kind of information. Can you share it with us?
Impeachment is not enough. An amendment to the constitution should be enacted creating a carve out to the prohibition on bills of attainder and exiling Trump, his family, staff and most prominent supporters the on pain of death if they return.
The insurrectionists should be tried for treason fairly and once convicted, executed.
1/6 is a terrorist attack on our country no less serious than 9/11. All other priorities must be put on hold until the perpetrators are brought to justice.
Actually it’s the NTers and fellow travelers who have been turning away from the principles they claimed to uphold.
Maybe he meant that Democrat office holders should be contributing to the bail funds for anyone arrested.
Indeed. I would say that this is worse than 9/11.
In fairness, someone not living in Portland is likely to react more sharply to storming of the US Capitol building than to storming of federal building in Portland. Today’s situation was perhaps more shocking, considering the usual levels of insanity in Democrat cities.