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Representative Emanuel Cleaver ended his Congressional prayer by saying “Amen and awomen.”

Amen comes from the ancient Hebrew “āmán,” which means “so be it.” So, just for grins, what does “awoman” mean in ancient Hebrew? It could sound like the phrase “your mother is a tortoise, ” “my hovercraft is full of eels,” or something equally silly. It would be fun to find out.

Could those of you conversant with Hebrew offer a translation? This sounds like something that takes a human being to do, rather than Google Translate. Extra points for ancient Hebrew.

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  1. Western Chauvinist Member
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    This has quickly become a running joke between my sister Trink and me. Anytime she says “Amen,” and she says it a lot when we’re in agreement, I follow up with “Awomen,” and we just laugh and laugh!

    I do kind of hate how the woke Left makes such utter fools of otherwise good people, though. Public humiliation is repugnant. 

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    • January 4, 2021, at 9:44 AM PST
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  2. RushBabe49 Thatcher

    Beg to differ. Leftists make fools of themselves.

    • #2
    • January 4, 2021, at 9:48 AM PST
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  3. Brian Watt Member
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    For the…uh…etymology (or at least the origin) of the phrase “My hovercraft is full of eels” please see this video:

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    • January 4, 2021, at 9:53 AM PST
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  4. Susan Quinn Contributor

    Seawriter: Representative Emanuel Cleaver ended his Congressional prayer by saying “Amen and awomen.”

    Was he the guy who feared that an island might tip over from the weight of something–an air base?

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    • January 4, 2021, at 10:03 AM PST
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  5. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Seawriter: Representative Emanuel Cleaver ended his Congressional prayer by saying “Amen and awomen.”

    Was he the guy who feared that an island might tip over from the weight of something–an air base?

    No, that was Hank Johnson.

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    • January 4, 2021, at 10:05 AM PST
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  6. WillowSpring Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Seawriter: Representative Emanuel Cleaver ended his Congressional prayer by saying “Amen and awomen.”

    Was he the guy who feared that an island might tip over from the weight of something–an air base?

    No, that was Hank Johnson. Hopefully, this link will work. The Admiral deserves another medal

    Hank Johnson and Guam

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    • January 4, 2021, at 10:09 AM PST
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  7. Caryn Thatcher
    CarynJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Actually, Seawriter, your Hebrew pronounciation is off. It should be ah-main (like the street) with the emphasis on the second syllable.

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    • January 4, 2021, at 10:30 AM PST
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  8. Chuck Thatcher

    WillowSpring (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Seawriter: Representative Emanuel Cleaver ended his Congressional prayer by saying “Amen and awomen.”

    Was he the guy who feared that an island might tip over from the weight of something–an air base?

    No, that was Hank Johnson. Hopefully, this link will work. The Admiral deserves another medal

    Hank Johnson and Guam

    Another Dimocrat.

    • #8
    • January 4, 2021, at 10:43 AM PST
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  9. Sisyphus Member
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    Cleaver is both a member of the House and a United Methodist minister. He has no excuse, and his public error calls rightly for public rebuke and public repentance. 

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    • January 4, 2021, at 11:09 AM PST
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  10. RushBabe49 Thatcher

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    Cleaver is both a member of the House and a United Methodist minister. He has no excuse, and his public error calls rightly for public rebuke and public repentance.

    Neither of which will happen. 

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    • January 4, 2021, at 11:19 AM PST
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  11. kedavis Member

    For another meaning of amen:

     

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    • January 4, 2021, at 11:34 AM PST
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  12. kedavis Member

    Caryn (View Comment):

    Actually, Seawriter, your Hebrew pronounciation is off. It should be ah-main (like the street) with the emphasis on the second syllable.

    That reminds me, I always found it interesting that in the MASH episode that included a circumcision for a child with a Korean mother and American father, at the end the mother pronounced it ah-main.

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    • January 4, 2021, at 11:47 AM PST
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  13. JamesSalerno Coolidge

    So from now on, we should refer to both the nation of Yemen and Yewomen. Turkmenistan and Turkwomenistan.

    Emanuel Cleaver should also address himself as Emanuel and Ewomanuel to be consistent with his own rules.

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    • January 4, 2021, at 12:05 PM PST
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  14. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    Cleaver is both a member of the House and a United Methodist minister. He has no excuse, and his public error calls rightly for public rebuke and public repentance.

    His excuse is he’s poisoned by leftism. Seriously. Giving the benefit of the doubt, he’s on a wide road and he doesn’t even know it.

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    • January 4, 2021, at 1:03 PM PST
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  15. Tex929rr Coolidge

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    I do kind of hate how the woke Left makes such utter fools of otherwise good people, though. Public humiliation is repugnant.

    It seems to me that it only works when those people allow it to work. People on the left, even good people, enabled this woke insanity, and it’s difficult to feel sorry for them now,

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    • January 4, 2021, at 1:04 PM PST
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  16. TBA Coolidge

    Ignorance is understandable. Ignorance with certitude less so. Ignorance with certitude and woke [redacted] demands the highest mockery available to mankind. 

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    • January 4, 2021, at 1:15 PM PST
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  17. DonG (2+2=5. Say it!) Coolidge

    Here is the CSPAN transcript. It is close to the actual words. It is mostly good stuff until the end.

     

    LET US PRAY. ETERNAL GOD, WE BOW BEFORE YOUR THROWN OF GRACE AS WE LEAVE BEHIND THE POLITICALLY AND SOCIALLY CLAMOROUS YEAR OF 2020. WE GATHER NOW IN THIS CONSEQUENTIAL CHAMBER TO INAUGURATE ANOTHER CHAPTER IN OUR ROLLER COASTER REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT. CONTROL OUR TRIBAL TENDENCIES AND QUICKEN OUR SPIRITS. THAT WE MAY FEEL THY PRIESTLEY PRESENCE EVEN IN MOMENTS OF HEIGHTENED DISAGREEMENT. MAY WE SO FEEL YOUR PRESENCE THAT OUR SERVICE HERE MAY NOT BE SOILED BY ANY UTTERANCES OR ACTS UNWORTHY OF THIS HIGH OFFICE. INSERT IN OUR SPIRIT A LIGHT SO BRIGHT THAT WE CAN SEE OURSELVES AND OUR POLITICS AS WE REALLY ARE, SOILED BY SELFISHNESS, PERVERTED BY PREJUDICE AND INVAGUELED BY IDEOLOGY. NOW MAY THE GOD WHO CREATE THE WORLD AND EVERYTHING IN IT BLESS US AND KEEP US. MAY THE LORD MAKE HIS FACE TO SHINE UPON US AND BE GRACIOUS UNTO US. MAY THE LORD LIFT UP THE LIGHT OF HIS COUNTNENCE UPON US AND GIVE US PEACE. PEACE IN OUR FAMILY, PEACE ACROSS THIS LAND AND DARE I ASK, O LORD, PEACE EVEN IN THIS CHAMBER. NOW AND EVER MORE. WE ASK IT IN THE NAME OF THE MONOTHEISTIC GOD AND THE GOD KNOWN BY MANY NAMES AND FAITHS. A MAN AND A WOMAN — AMEN AND AWOMAN.

    I had to look up “inveigled”.

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    • January 4, 2021, at 1:17 PM PST
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  18. Western Chauvinist Member
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    DonG (Biden is compromised) (View Comment):

    Here is the CSPAN transcript. It is close to the actual words. It is mostly good stuff until the end.

     

    LET US PRAY. ETERNAL GOD, WE BOW BEFORE YOUR THROWN OF GRACE AS WE LEAVE BEHIND THE POLITICALLY AND SOCIALLY CLAMOROUS YEAR OF 2020. WE GATHER NOW IN THIS CONSEQUENTIAL CHAMBER TO INAUGURATE ANOTHER CHAPTER IN OUR ROLLER COASTER REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT. CONTROL OUR TRIBAL TENDENCIES AND QUICKEN OUR SPIRITS. THAT WE MAY FEEL THY PRIESTLEY PRESENCE EVEN IN MOMENTS OF HEIGHTENED DISAGREEMENT. MAY WE SO FEEL YOUR PRESENCE THAT OUR SERVICE HERE MAY NOT BE SOILED BY ANY UTTERANCES OR ACTS UNWORTHY OF THIS HIGH OFFICE. INSERT IN OUR SPIRIT A LIGHT SO BRIGHT THAT WE CAN SEE OURSELVES AND OUR POLITICS AS WE REALLY ARE, SOILED BY SELFISHNESS, PERVERTED BY PREJUDICE AND INVAGUELED BY IDEOLOGY. NOW MAY THE GOD WHO CREATE THE WORLD AND EVERYTHING IN IT BLESS US AND KEEP US. MAY THE LORD MAKE HIS FACE TO SHINE UPON US AND BE GRACIOUS UNTO US. MAY THE LORD LIFT UP THE LIGHT OF HIS COUNTNENCE UPON US AND GIVE US PEACE. PEACE IN OUR FAMILY, PEACE ACROSS THIS LAND AND DARE I ASK, O LORD, PEACE EVEN IN THIS CHAMBER. NOW AND EVER MORE. WE ASK IT IN THE NAME OF THE MONOTHEISTIC GOD AND THE GOD KNOWN BY MANY NAMES AND FAITHS. A MAN AND A WOMAN — AMEN AND AWOMAN.

    I had to look up “inveigled”.

    This is what I mean. The man is a pastor. He has good intentions (although, the road to hell and all that). But, he’s been poisoned by leftist ideology and ends up publicly humiliating himself. I do feel bad for him. 

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    • January 4, 2021, at 1:25 PM PST
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  19. EB Thatcher

    WillowSpring (View Comment):
    The Admiral deserves another medal

    Honestly, I don’t know how he kept his composure. But maybe the generals and admirals are used to having members of Congress act like complete ignoramuses.

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    • January 4, 2021, at 2:09 PM PST
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  20. Doug Watt Moderator

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    DonG (Biden is compromised) (View Comment):

    Here is the CSPAN transcript. It is close to the actual words. It is mostly good stuff until the end.

     

    LET US PRAY. ETERNAL GOD, WE BOW BEFORE YOUR THROWN OF GRACE AS WE LEAVE BEHIND THE POLITICALLY AND SOCIALLY CLAMOROUS YEAR OF 2020. WE GATHER NOW IN THIS CONSEQUENTIAL CHAMBER TO INAUGURATE ANOTHER CHAPTER IN OUR ROLLER COASTER REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT. CONTROL OUR TRIBAL TENDENCIES AND QUICKEN OUR SPIRITS. THAT WE MAY FEEL THY PRIESTLEY PRESENCE EVEN IN MOMENTS OF HEIGHTENED DISAGREEMENT. MAY WE SO FEEL YOUR PRESENCE THAT OUR SERVICE HERE MAY NOT BE SOILED BY ANY UTTERANCES OR ACTS UNWORTHY OF THIS HIGH OFFICE. INSERT IN OUR SPIRIT A LIGHT SO BRIGHT THAT WE CAN SEE OURSELVES AND OUR POLITICS AS WE REALLY ARE, SOILED BY SELFISHNESS, PERVERTED BY PREJUDICE AND INVAGUELED BY IDEOLOGY. NOW MAY THE GOD WHO CREATE THE WORLD AND EVERYTHING IN IT BLESS US AND KEEP US. MAY THE LORD MAKE HIS FACE TO SHINE UPON US AND BE GRACIOUS UNTO US. MAY THE LORD LIFT UP THE LIGHT OF HIS COUNTNENCE UPON US AND GIVE US PEACE. PEACE IN OUR FAMILY, PEACE ACROSS THIS LAND AND DARE I ASK, O LORD, PEACE EVEN IN THIS CHAMBER. NOW AND EVER MORE. WE ASK IT IN THE NAME OF THE MONOTHEISTIC GOD AND THE GOD KNOWN BY MANY NAMES AND FAITHS. A MAN AND A WOMAN — AMEN AND AWOMAN.

    I had to look up “inveigled”.

    This is what I mean. The man is a pastor. He has good intentions (although, the road to hell and all that). But, he’s been poisoned by leftist ideology and ends up publicly humiliating himself. I do feel bad for him.

    You might not want God to take any real notice of a legislative body, and especially Democrats, in a nation that has aborted over 60 million children. I guess he has to hope that the angels aren’t crying out for vengeance. Just a side note it’s Throne, not Thrown. 

     

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    • January 4, 2021, at 2:28 PM PST
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  21. kedavis Member

    EB (View Comment):

    WillowSpring (View Comment):
    The Admiral deserves another medal

    Honestly, I don’t know how he kept his composure. But maybe the generals and admirals are used to having members of Congress act like complete ignoramuses.

    Along with everyone else: serious economists, etc. Let’s not also forget about Mazie Hirono apparently asking the same scripted questions of ACB left over from the Kavanaugh hearings.

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    • January 4, 2021, at 2:28 PM PST
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  22. Chuck Thatcher

    DonG (Biden is compromised) (View Comment):
    WE ASK IT IN THE NAME OF THE….GOD KNOWN BY MANY NAMES AND FAITHS.

    Now I’m just curious – is that really Methodist doctrine?

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    • January 4, 2021, at 3:14 PM PST
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  23. Randy Webster Member

    Doug Watt (View Comment):
    INVAGUELED BY IDEOLOGY.

    Until I read this, I thought I knew what inveigled meant.

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    • January 4, 2021, at 3:32 PM PST
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  24. Quietpi Member

    Official Methodist doctrine? Not sure, but I suspect not. But I have heard similar references from Methodist clergy. Judeo – Christian? Well, you know the answer.

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    • January 4, 2021, at 3:32 PM PST
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  25. RushBabe49 Thatcher

    And then, there’s the World’s Longest Amen:

     

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    • January 4, 2021, at 4:07 PM PST
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  26. kedavis Member

    Just for the heck of it, this is a favorite of mine:

     

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    • January 4, 2021, at 4:13 PM PST
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  27. Front Seat Cat Member

    DonG (Biden is compromised) (View Comment):

    Here is the CSPAN transcript. It is close to the actual words. It is mostly good stuff until the end.

     

    LET US PRAY. ETERNAL GOD, WE BOW BEFORE YOUR THROWN OF GRACE AS WE LEAVE BEHIND THE POLITICALLY AND SOCIALLY CLAMOROUS YEAR OF 2020. WE GATHER NOW IN THIS CONSEQUENTIAL CHAMBER TO INAUGURATE ANOTHER CHAPTER IN OUR ROLLER COASTER REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT. CONTROL OUR TRIBAL TENDENCIES AND QUICKEN OUR SPIRITS. THAT WE MAY FEEL THY PRIESTLEY PRESENCE EVEN IN MOMENTS OF HEIGHTENED DISAGREEMENT. MAY WE SO FEEL YOUR PRESENCE THAT OUR SERVICE HERE MAY NOT BE SOILED BY ANY UTTERANCES OR ACTS UNWORTHY OF THIS HIGH OFFICE. INSERT IN OUR SPIRIT A LIGHT SO BRIGHT THAT WE CAN SEE OURSELVES AND OUR POLITICS AS WE REALLY ARE, SOILED BY SELFISHNESS, PERVERTED BY PREJUDICE AND INVAGUELED BY IDEOLOGY. NOW MAY THE GOD WHO CREATE THE WORLD AND EVERYTHING IN IT BLESS US AND KEEP US. MAY THE LORD MAKE HIS FACE TO SHINE UPON US AND BE GRACIOUS UNTO US. MAY THE LORD LIFT UP THE LIGHT OF HIS COUNTNENCE UPON US AND GIVE US PEACE. PEACE IN OUR FAMILY, PEACE ACROSS THIS LAND AND DARE I ASK, O LORD, PEACE EVEN IN THIS CHAMBER. NOW AND EVER MORE. WE ASK IT IN THE NAME OF THE MONOTHEISTIC GOD AND THE GOD KNOWN BY MANY NAMES AND FAITHS. A MAN AND A WOMAN — AMEN AND AWOMAN.

    I had to look up “inveigled”.

    Uh – Oh…..he used the word His in the prayer – not gender neutral. They should have prayed this prayer each time they met the last four years to try to curb their tribal tendencies – why start sounding pious now?

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    • January 4, 2021, at 4:24 PM PST
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  28. kedavis Member

    DonG (Biden is compromised) (View Comment):
    Here is the CSPAN transcript. It is close to the actual words. It is mostly good stuff until the end.

    They always do bury the lead, don’t they?

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  29. Old Bathos Moderator

    I have not researched in depth yet but here are three possible origins that a scholar like Rep. Cleaver may have drawn upon:

    1. As I recall there is an apocryphal account of Joshua smoting a guy named eumen for whizzing from the shore just upstream from the guys he was checking to see which ones lapped like dogs which could be corrupted into “awoman”.

    2. Moses had a guy in his entourage (I think his name was Shecky) who did standup with mostly the same jokes for 40 years with a stock routine about a retarded Hittite named Oman with the tag line “Ah, Oman.”

    3. But the most likely source is of Egyptian Christian origin from some of the more unsuccessful followers of the hermit Pachobius who came to routinely pray for ‘wisdom, bread and a woman’ so that “a woman” became the traditional end to every prayer.

     

     

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    • January 4, 2021, at 4:51 PM PST
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  30. EJHill Podcaster
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    The gentleman who used to run the Jumbotron facility at the HHH Metrodome in Minneapolis was Jewish. He thought it would be funny if he got one of the Twins broadcasters* to read the retransmission disclaimer in Hebrew, so he wrote it out on a card phonetically. It was a disaster.

    I wasn’t there for the performance but I did work the cleanup broadcast. Sometimes you get an idea and you think, “Wouldn’t this be clever?” and the answer is, “No. No, it’s not.”

    *This individual is no longer associated with the team.

     

     

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    • January 4, 2021, at 5:42 PM PST
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