Good for Nick Sandmann

 

I think that the media’s treatment of Nick Sandmann and the Convington Catholic kids was one of the worst things of the last four years. Sandmann was right to sue for defamation, and I hope that he got millions in his settlements. I am also very glad that he shows more courage and maturity than a lot of people by speaking the truth and calling out craziness.

https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1345157892337500171

I don’t know what happened to Lin Wood. He was an accomplished and respected attorney. I hope that any friends and family he has are checking on him and trying to get him help, because something is seriously wrong with the man.

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  1. DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone Member
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    Never has a heroic figure fallen so far and so fast. Conservatives rightly praised him for taking on the evil media and winning. I would hope to see many more similar lawsuits until the media begs for mercy.

    But . . . the last few weeks he seems to have lost his mind.

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  2. She Member
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    Good for Nick Sandmann.   It is very sad to see the very legitimate matter of questionable votes and dubious election practices lost in the crazed rhetoric on both extremes of the spectrum, but this is particularly egregious and vile.  As are many of Wood’s other recent tweets.

    As for the person who says “loyalty is everything,” I presume she lives in a completely ahistorical world and is an ignoramus of the first order.  Loyalty to what’s right, civilized, and humane is everything.  And what’s right and civilized and humane in this case is calling out someone who’s clearly gone off the rails and needs some help.  I hope that Lin Wood has some friends and family who are willing to tell him that and get him off social media and the front pages of the tabloids where he continues to embarrass and humiliate himself.  Doing that for him would be showing the highest form of loyalty to their friend.

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  3. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    But note, there will be no snarky remarks about Trump supporters calling out Lin Wood. There are just snarky remarks that all Trump supporters turn on people in cult-like fashion. 

    I am really, really tired of being lumped in with the extreme of any group. You cannot find any cause so pure, that there are not bad or crazy people supporting it. Maybe they are good everywhere else, but not in this one area. 

     

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  4. Gary Robbins Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    I am really, really tired of being lumped in with the extreme of any group. You cannot find any cause so pure, that there are not bad or crazy people supporting it. Maybe they are good everywhere else, but not in this one area.

    I fully agree and associate myself with this comment.  

     

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  5. 9thDistrictNeighbor Member
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    A twitter feed is one thing, court filings are another.  I am not aware that any of his court filings have been unusual in any way; they just haven’t been effective. I withhold judgement.

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  6. DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone Member
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    Someone would like us to forget he called us all cult members for four years straight.

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  7. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    I am really, really tired of being lumped in with the extreme of any group. You cannot find any cause so pure, that there are not bad or crazy people supporting it. Maybe they are good everywhere else, but not in this one area.

    I fully agree and associate myself with this comment.

     

    You also associated yourself with the Lincoln Project. 

    So

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  8. DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    You also associated yourself with the Lincoln Project.

    There’s not one of those guys who still calls himself a Republican. They’ve all officially declared themselves Democrats.

     

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  9. RufusRJones Member
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    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    You also associated yourself with the Lincoln Project.

    There’s not one of those guys who still calls himself a Republican. They’ve all officially declared themselves Democrats.

     

    They are almost all in the orbit of Principles First, too. It’s a dumb group that probably isn’t going to go anywhere but Minnesota Never Trump is a big fan. Everybody around those guys is either dumb, shady, or a leftist. lol

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  10. Stad Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    But note, there will be no snarky remarks about Trump supporters calling out Lin Wood. There are just snarky remarks that all Trump supporters turn on people in cult-like fashion. 

    I know what you mean.  I don’t have a problem with Lin Wood or Sidney Powell.

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  11. Gary McVey Contributor
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    Lin Wood? The guy who claims Roberts got two kids from a Jeffrey Epstein pedophile ring? What moron says things like that? What he deserves is a straitjacket and a few years in a rubber room. He’s not just a kook. He’s sick, evil.

    Of course Sandmann rejects him. Good for Nick. 

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  12. MDHahn Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    But note, there will be no snarky remarks about Trump supporters calling out Lin Wood. There are just snarky remarks that all Trump supporters turn on people in cult-like fashion.

    I am really, really tired of being lumped in with the extreme of any group. You cannot find any cause so pure, that there are not bad or crazy people supporting it. Maybe they are good everywhere else, but not in this one area.

     

    I tire of being lumped in with extremists and crazies, too. Thankfully, being a conservative, I don’t have to worry about being lumped in with leftists, anarchists, or Antifa. Normally, crackpot conspiracy theorists are best ignored. Unfortunately, Lin Wood is not just a run-of-the-mill crackpot. He is a formerly prominent and successful attorney. He worked closely with members of the President’s legal team and the President has praised him in the past. Given his profile, and the vile nature of the things he has said, he should be called out and condemned. I am glad Sandmann did it, and I would praise any Trump supporter who did so too. 

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  13. MDHahn Coolidge
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    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Someone would like us to forget he called us all cult members for four years straight.

    I think I’m missing something. Who called whom cult members?

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  14. MichaelKennedy Inactive
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    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    Someone would like us to forget he called us all cult members for four years straight.

    I did not comment but was struck by the lack of self awareness and a sense of irony.

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  15. MichaelKennedy Inactive
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    Gary McVey (View Comment):

    Lin Wood? The guy who claims Roberts got two kids from a Jeffrey Epstein pedophile ring? What moron says things like that? What he deserves is a straitjacket and a few years in a rubber room. He’s not just a kook. He’s sick, evil.

    Of course Sandmann rejects him. Good for Nick.

    His tweets have been bizarre but I also wonder what the left has on Roberts.

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  16. Flicker Coolidge
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    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    Gary McVey (View Comment):

    Lin Wood? The guy who claims Roberts got two kids from a Jeffrey Epstein pedophile ring? What moron says things like that? What he deserves is a straitjacket and a few years in a rubber room. He’s not just a kook. He’s sick, evil.

    Of course Sandmann rejects him. Good for Nick.

    His tweets have been bizarre but I also wonder what the left has on Roberts.

    For years the only answer on-line was that he illegally adopted children by by-passing the law prohibiting taking adopted children out of their native country, by bringing the mothers to central America to deliver and then taking the babies home to the US.  This seemed reasonable for a high-power lawyer, but weak as a point of blackmail — except I suppose for a Chief Justice.  Wood may be riffing on the old story, or he may have more accurate information, and he may be supplementing it with sensational allegations that will get the old story more social media awareness.

    Or he might be right (which I doubt).

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  17. Gary Robbins Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    I am really, really tired of being lumped in with the extreme of any group. You cannot find any cause so pure, that there are not bad or crazy people supporting it. Maybe they are good everywhere else, but not in this one area.

    I fully agree and associate myself with this comment.

    You also associated yourself with the Lincoln Project.

    So

    Actually after getting a great deal of negative feedback about The Lincoln Project (TLP) from my fellow Ricochetti, I moved my contributions over to Republican Voters Against Trump (RVAT).  I have not contributed to The Lincoln Project since then.

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  18. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary, at some point it would be really great if you wrote about public policy, economics, or the structure of government. Take your time. lol 

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  19. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    I am really, really tired of being lumped in with the extreme of any group. You cannot find any cause so pure, that there are not bad or crazy people supporting it. Maybe they are good everywhere else, but not in this one area.

    I fully agree and associate myself with this comment.

    You also associated yourself with the Lincoln Project.

    So

    Actually after getting a great deal of negative feedback about The Lincoln Project (TLP) from my fellow Ricochetti, I moved my contributions over to Republican Voters Against Trump (RVAT). I have not contributed to The Lincoln Project since then.

    You should also consider Republicans Against Trump (RAT).

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  20. MiMac Thatcher
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    @MiMac

    Good for Nick. Lin Wood & Sidney Powell are seriously hurting Trump’s chances by their bizarre claims w/o factual backing. You don’t make claims like theirs w/o very solid evidence- which they never provide. If I was into conspiracies, I’d say the Lincoln Project is paying them- altho the grifters in that organization would most likely keep any available money for themselves.

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  21. MichaelKennedy Inactive
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    Good for Nick. Lin Wood & Sidney Powell are seriously hurting Trump’s chances by their bizarre claims w/o factual backing. You don’t make claims like theirs w/o very solid evidence- which they never provide. If I was into conspiracies, I’d say the Lincoln Project is paying them- altho the grifters in that organization would most likely keep any available money for themselves.

    The evidence of many of their “claims” has been evident and the courts will not hear it. The fraud was very well done.  I wonder how much China has funded, or even participated in it?  There are thousands of sworn affidavits that courts refuse to consider.

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  22. She Member
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    Lin Wood has committed what I think is the mortal sin for any reputable attorney who is supposed to be representing his client’s best interests, and that is that he has made himself, rather than his client’s legal interests and the legal foundation of his case, the focus of attention.  In doing so, he’s taken the focus off what are legitimate questions about the election, and put himself and his incendiary and unsupported claims squarely in the public’s sights.

    I don’t care if he did it via scribblings on Twitter, or Facebook or on if he wrote his rambling assertions on a piece of paper that someone found in a Chinese fortune cookie.  I don’t really care what those assertions are either.  But I am pretty sure that those claims being what they are, 48 hours before Congress meets to certify (or not) the election,  that his last-minute claims that John Roberts stole his adopted children with nefarious help from Jeffrey Epstein (who Woods claims is still alive), that Roberts had foreknowledge of, and something to do with, perhaps somehow caused, the death of Antonin Scalia, and that Mike Pence should find himself in front of a firing squad as the consequence for his treasonous acts while Mike Pompeo takes over the reins of Presidential power will do absolutely nothing to accrue either Trump’s credibility or his benefit.

    And therefore, he’s failed in his duty to his client.  And rendered a matter that deserved serious consideration ridiculous, irrelevant, and nugatory.  Because now, it’s all about Lin Wood.  Someone who loves him, or someone who’s paying him, should get him off the case.

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  23. MiMac Thatcher
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    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    Good for Nick. Lin Wood & Sidney Powell are seriously hurting Trump’s chances by their bizarre claims w/o factual backing. You don’t make claims like theirs w/o very solid evidence- which they never provide. If I was into conspiracies, I’d say the Lincoln Project is paying them- altho the grifters in that organization would most likely keep any available money for themselves.

    The evidence of many of their “claims” has been evident and the courts will not hear it. The fraud was very well done. I wonder how much China has funded, or even participated in it? There are thousands of sworn affidavits that courts refuse to consider.

    There are no such “thousands of signed affidavits”-they have never been entered in court by Trump’s legal team- in court they have consistently not entered evidence of vote fraud:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/12/a-stunning-passage-from-the-latest-court-rejection-of-team-trump/

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/third-circuit-rejects-trump-campaigns-appeal-of-bidens-pennsylvania-win/

    when people make inflammatory statements outside of court-yet fail to make such claims IN court it is b/c they know the penalty for perjury-look at Adam Schiff and Clapper who claimed he had seen evidence of Trump being a Russian agent on TV, yet in testimony stated he had never seen any evidence-

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/all-the-adam-schiff-transcripts-11589326164

     

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  24. MichaelKennedy Inactive
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    Good for Nick. Lin Wood & Sidney Powell are seriously hurting Trump’s chances by their bizarre claims w/o factual backing. You don’t make claims like theirs w/o very solid evidence- which they never provide. If I was into conspiracies, I’d say the Lincoln Project is paying them- altho the grifters in that organization would most likely keep any available money for themselves.

    The evidence of many of their “claims” has been evident and the courts will not hear it. The fraud was very well done. I wonder how much China has funded, or even participated in it? There are thousands of sworn affidavits that courts refuse to consider.

    There are no such “thousands of signed affidavits”-they have never been entered in court by Trump’s legal team- in court they have consistently not entered evidence of vote fraud:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/12/a-stunning-passage-from-the-latest-court-rejection-of-team-trump/

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/third-circuit-rejects-trump-campaigns-appeal-of-bidens-pennsylvania-win/

    when people make inflammatory statements outside of court-yet fail to make such claims IN court it is b/c they know the penalty for perjury-look at Adam Schiff and Clapper who claimed he had seen evidence of Trump being a Russian agent on TV, yet in testimony stated he had never seen any evidence-

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/all-the-adam-schiff-transcripts-11589326164

     

    You are an NT who believes what The Lincoln Project tells you.

    Ted Cruz sees this very clearly, and is working hard to be the voice of the GOP of the future in this debate. He’s my prediction right now for 2024 GOP nominee. The party is now Trump’s like it never was for either George Bush. Throughout much of the country, it is very obvious that Republicans who don’t support Trump and his view of America, don’t support their constituents. And their constituents know this. And, yes, this includes Mitt Romney and his constituents in Utah.

    That was from a commenter at Althouse.  Good luck in your attempt to move the Republican Party to your choice of Biden.

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  25. Flicker Coolidge
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    Good for Nick. Lin Wood & Sidney Powell are seriously hurting Trump’s chances by their bizarre claims w/o factual backing. You don’t make claims like theirs w/o very solid evidence- which they never provide. If I was into conspiracies, I’d say the Lincoln Project is paying them- altho the grifters in that organization would most likely keep any available money for themselves.

    Did you read her 270 report?

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  26. MiMac Thatcher
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    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    Good for Nick. Lin Wood & Sidney Powell are seriously hurting Trump’s chances by their bizarre claims w/o factual backing. You don’t make claims like theirs w/o very solid evidence- which they never provide. If I was into conspiracies, I’d say the Lincoln Project is paying them- altho the grifters in that organization would most likely keep any available money for themselves.

    The evidence of many of their “claims” has been evident and the courts will not hear it. The fraud was very well done. I wonder how much China has funded, or even participated in it? There are thousands of sworn affidavits that courts refuse to consider.

    There are no such “thousands of signed affidavits”-they have never been entered in court by Trump’s legal team- in court they have consistently not entered evidence of vote fraud:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/12/a-stunning-passage-from-the-latest-court-rejection-of-team-trump/

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/third-circuit-rejects-trump-campaigns-appeal-of-bidens-pennsylvania-win/

    when people make inflammatory statements outside of court-yet fail to make such claims IN court it is b/c they know the penalty for perjury-look at Adam Schiff and Clapper who claimed he had seen evidence of Trump being a Russian agent on TV, yet in testimony stated he had never seen any evidence-

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/all-the-adam-schiff-transcripts-11589326164

    You are an NT who believes what The Lincoln Project tells you.

    Ted Cruz sees this very clearly, and is working hard to be the voice of the GOP of the future in this debate. He’s my prediction right now for 2024 GOP nominee. The party is now Trump’s like it never was for either George Bush. Throughout much of the country, it is very obvious that Republicans who don’t support Trump and his view of America, don’t support their constituents. And their constituents know this. And, yes, this includes Mitt Romney and his constituents in Utah.

    That was from a commenter at Althouse. Good luck in your attempt to move the Republican Party to your choice of Biden.

    I voted for Trump- but there has been no credible evidence to date of voter fraud to the level required to alter the election. Obviously, there was some level of fraud and incompetence- it is a government process after all. By credible I do not mean some partisan statistical analysis- I mean proof- stats won’t hold up in a court case. I wish it were so, but wishing doesn’t make it true. The Trump legal team has not entered any serious claim of significant voter fraud in any courtroom as of this point- and that is telling. Until they do, it is inconceivable that the election outcome should be seriously challenged. To mount a serious challenge you need evidence that would withstand a scrutiny in court. I believe a Biden administration will be bad for the country- and God help us if they get control of the Senate as well.

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  27. MiMac Thatcher
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    Good for Nick. Lin Wood & Sidney Powell are seriously hurting Trump’s chances by their bizarre claims w/o factual backing. You don’t make claims like theirs w/o very solid evidence- which they never provide. If I was into conspiracies, I’d say the Lincoln Project is paying them- altho the grifters in that organization would most likely keep any available money for themselves.

    Did you read her 270 report?

    Did she enter it into any court case? If not, it is hot air- unless a lawyer is under threat of perjury I place little value in what they say-she has routinely made claims in public that she never entered in her court filings.

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  28. RufusRJones Member
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    Literally, the Constitution says Georgia and Pennsylvania should send GOP electors or no electors. 

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  29. DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone Member
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    MiMac (View Comment):
    I voted for Trump- but there has been no credible evidence to date of voter fraud to the level required to alter the election.

    I disagree. I think there’s been more than enough evidence. I also think our leaders have no political will to pursue it, so this nation is doomed. 

    Also, I’ll note that we went from “No evidence of voter fraud!” to “Okay, there was voter fraud, but it wasn’t enough!” to “Okay, it’s too late to do anything about it now!”

    That 30% of Democrats think Biden stole the election is astounding.

     

     

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  30. MiMac Thatcher
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    DrewInEastHillQuarantineZone (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):
    I voted for Trump- but there has been no credible evidence to date of voter fraud to the level required to alter the election.

    I disagree. I think there’s been more than enough evidence. I also think our leaders have no political will to pursue it, so this nation is doomed.

    Also, I’ll note that we went from “No evidence of voter fraud!” to “Okay, there was voter fraud, but it wasn’t enough!” to “Okay, it’s too late to do anything about it now!”

    That 30% of Democrats think Biden stole the election is astounding.

    Thinking isn’t enough- we need evidence to press the case for fraud effectively. Most democrats also think the 2000, 2004, & 2016 elections were stolen. I bet a poll of most Democrats would blame the JFK assassination on conservatives- Dan Rather did.  It can’t be an exercise in raw politics- or else we risk it happening to us in the near future not to mention our constitution. To go ahead the GOP needs to provide credible evidence of significant voter fraud in the required amount in the states with close margins- otherwise shut up and prepare for the next election.

    NB- no one of any intelligence ever said there was no fraud(don’t quote some CNN or MSNBC anchor in response- note I said anyone of intelligence – thereby disqualifing them)-there always is and I never said it is too late. But the fraud has to be in the order of 45K votes spread out correctly in GA, NV, WI for there to be a case to change the outcome. For example, you could prove about 1M fraudulent votes in CA and it wouldn’t matter. So far no such evidence has been forthcoming.

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