Just Give the Shots By Age

 

I’m honestly shocked we’re here, but as I watch friends getting shots because they work in the vicinity of healthcare and government (I’m talking working IT in a satellite office next to a hospital or a Hill office here folks), I’m getting angrier than I’ve been in a while. Everything about our response to this pandemic has been upside-down from the very beginning, and so it stands to logic that we’ll end this pandemic as fecklessly as we began it. It seems we’re content to repeat the same mistakes blue state governors made in the beginning that led to the senseless and unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of elderly Americans.

Meanwhile, in Israel, their hospitals are going to start releasing the pressure valve because they’re taking a logical approach to who to start vaccinating.

I’m genuinely asking because I don’t know: How do we fix the vaccine allocation system? Our society watched quietly and helplessly as COVID+ patients were pushed into nursing homes, starting bonfires of carnage. We cannot let down our seniors again. What do we need to do to reverse course before it’s too late?

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  1. Jim McConnell Member
    Jim McConnell
    @JimMcConnell

    As always, our Congresspersons are diligently caring for their constituents… after they get everything possible for themselves.

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  2. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Democracy) Coolidge
    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Democracy)
    @GumbyMark

    The math is clear.  Because of the steep age mortality curve you vaccinate the oldest first, as Israel, the UK, and other countries are.  The U.S. has strayed from this in its quest for racial equity.  Although the CDC backed off equity to its full extent, it has still placed 65-74 year olds in lower priority than those less at risk.  Some states have even gone further.  This means more Americans will die.

    The CDC makes recommendations but official priorities are set by state.  Contact every public official you can in your state if you are concerned.

    I wrote about this in a Ricochet post several days ago.

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  3. DonG (Biden is compromised) Coolidge
    DonG (Biden is compromised)
    @DonG

    I am confused about why this is an issue.  Didn’t we throw $10B+ at Big Pharma for them to make a billion doses during the summer, while the phase 1 and phase 2 trials were running?   “Warp Speed” meant we pre-paid before tests showed as safe and effective.   Did Big Pharma take the money and not create the stock?  Those naughty corporations.

    From April:

    The Trump administration is organizing a Manhattan Project-style effort to drastically cut the time needed to develop a coronavirus vaccine, with a goal of making enough doses for most Americans by year’s end.

    Called “Operation Warp Speed,” the program will pull together private pharmaceutical companies, government agencies and the military to try to cut the development time for a vaccine by as much as eight months, according to two people familiar with the matter.

    As part of the arrangement, taxpayers will shoulder much of the financial risk that vaccine candidates may fail, instead of drug companies.

    The project’s goal is to have 300 million doses of vaccine available by January, according to one administration official. There is no precedent for such rapid development of a vaccine.

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  4. Jules PA Inactive
    Jules PA
    @JulesPA

    Not sure why we would expect a humane distribution from what has essentially become a socialist state. 

    This is just the hors d’ouvres for the “meal” to be served in the next four years. 

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  5. Al Sparks Coolidge
    Al Sparks
    @AlSparks

    I don’t know how big of an issue this is.  It depends on how long it takes to manufacture and deploy enough vaccine so it’s available to everyone who wants it.

    Sure it’s insane what the CDC, and now Governor Cuomo is prioritizing (drug addicts before seniors).

    If all it ends up being is another warning sign how screwed up our bureaucratic swamp has become, then there will be little immediate harm in this, and perhaps an opportunity for correction.

    That is if deploying the vaccine is quick.

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  6. Jules PA Inactive
    Jules PA
    @JulesPA

    Al Sparks (View Comment):
    Governor Cuomo is prioritizing (drug addicts before seniors).

    Considering Cuomo didnt want the vaccine from Trump, it doesn’t surprise me. Sadly, I’d sooner have drug addicts be the vaccine guinea pigs than seniors.

    But are addicts bodies so polluted, confused and destroyed as to make their reactions a good sample of how a normal body would react?

    My tinfoil hat is so large, I’d go so far to say drug addicts are more useful to Cuomo than a bed ridden 80 year old.

    May Cuomo burn in hell. It is hard to imagine any other destiny for him.

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  7. Stad Coolidge
    Stad
    @Stad

    What about seniors with what would be co-morbidity factors?  Do they get the vaccine first, or is getting the vaccine too much of a risk when you have other health issues?

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  8. Jules PA Inactive
    Jules PA
    @JulesPA

    Stad (View Comment):

    What about seniors with what would be co-morbidity factors? Do they get the vaccine first, or is getting the vaccine too much of a risk when you have other health issues?

    I’d say seniors have a catch 22 here. They certainly should be able to decide.

    Will there be senior homes for the unvaccinated? Because I see a great re-sorting about to happen, as punishment for the vaccination dissidents.

    The new gulag.

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  9. Z in MT Member
    Z in MT
    @ZinMT

    The problem right now is putting the vaccine into arms. Our medical system is so messed up it can’t find the old people to stick needles into. So it is going with people that are convenient namely young healthcare office girls that likely already had Covid and therefore are already immune.

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  10. Jules PA Inactive
    Jules PA
    @JulesPA

    Z in MT (View Comment):
    So it is going with people that are convenient namely young healthcare office girls that likely already had Covid and therefore are already immune.

    Ahh, so they are stacking the deck, to say it is a success?

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  11. David March Coolidge
    David March
    @ToryWarWriter

    Stad (View Comment):

    What about seniors with what would be co-morbidity factors? Do they get the vaccine first, or is getting the vaccine too much of a risk when you have other health issues?

    They do in a sensible country like mine.

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  12. David March Coolidge
    David March
    @ToryWarWriter

    I have been listening to a lot of George Friedmans works on Audible the last few months.

    One thing he and others come back to is margin of error.  The USA as the richest and most powerful country in the world has so much margin of error that it allows it, to get away with completely stupid things all the time, that would crush a country with a lesser margin of error like Canada, or South Korea.  We have to better, cause when we screw up it hurts us.  But the USA can get away with a level of stupidity, because they are the spoiled rich kid of a country.  Just drive the car off the pier, daddy will always buy you a new one.

    Of course in this case, that car is peoples lives.

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  13. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Democracy) Coolidge
    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Democracy)
    @GumbyMark

    Jules PA (View Comment):

    Z in MT (View Comment):
    So it is going with people that are convenient namely young healthcare office girls that likely already had Covid and therefore are already immune.

    Ahh, so they are stacking the deck, to say it is a success?

    Actually it would be a loss because more people will die.

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  14. Podkayne of Israel Inactive
    Podkayne of Israel
    @PodkayneofIsrael

    Here in Israel, everybody is required to be a member of one of a small number of health funds. Some of them are sticking more strictly with the age tier than others. I am a nurse in an extracurricular program for special needs kids, and I have sat out quarantine twice after close contact with kids who had the virus, but because I don’t work for a hospital or clinic that gives the vax, I wasn’t optimistic. My health fund has been offering computer registration for the vax, but it wouldn’t register me because I’m under 60. 

    Last week, one of my co-workers made a bunch of phone calls, and we got the number of somebody at my health fund who allowed me to register for the first shot today, at a tent at the Jerusalem soccer stadium. 

    In the meantime, my health fund notified my husband to come to the stadium for the shot yesterday. And now my workplace is vaccinating employees at work next Sunday. 

    But I will be at the football stadium tonight, just to be sure.

    “All plans are subject to change.” Israelis are used to working with uncertainty, which is why I suspect vaccination here will move pretty swiftly.

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  15. Stad Coolidge
    Stad
    @Stad

    Jules PA (View Comment):
    They certainly should be able to decide.

    I agree, but I can see seniors being thrown out of nursing homes and assisted living if they refuse . . .

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  16. Podkayne of Israel Inactive
    Podkayne of Israel
    @PodkayneofIsrael

    Start-Up VacciNATION Vaccination #1, Teddy Stadium, J-lem

    Not crowded, moving like clockwork. All done until Jan. 21, same place.

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  17. Jules PA Inactive
    Jules PA
    @JulesPA

    Stad (View Comment):

    Jules PA (View Comment):
    They certainly should be able to decide.

    I agree, but I can see seniors being thrown out of nursing homes and assisted living if they refuse . . .

    And this is how they will win against us all…

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