Joe Biden Will Never Be My President. Never.

 

I happened upon this most incisive piece by Newt Gingrich and it so clearly and vividly described how I believe so many of us are feeling right now I decided to bring it to your attention.

It is entitled, most aptly for me, at least, and I have a strong sense that it is so for many American citizens in that number of about 74 Million (who knows, really?) who voted for a second term for one of the most productive Presidents in our history “Why I will not accept Joe Biden as president“, and can be found here.

The passage which really struck me, as it so concisely describes my state of mind since I decided I had seen enough evidence (emphasis added in view of the numerous howls from the Loonocracy that there is none) to know that there was credible,  provable evidence of deep and widespread fraud, follows:

As I thought about it, I realized my anger and fear were not narrowly focused on votes. My unwillingness to relax and accept that the election grew out of a level of outrage and alienation unlike anything I had experienced in more than 60 years involvement in public affairs.

The challenge is that I — and other conservatives — are not disagreeing with the left within a commonly understood world. We live in alternative worlds.

That phrase is, to put it mildly, as heavily freighted and chilling as one may use in what we all thought was our Constitutional Republic… think about those words: “We live in alternative worlds.” Although Mr. Gingrich did not specifically reference it in his article, I came away from reading it haunted by Mr. Lincoln’s words of eternal wisdom and wondering, as I have many times in the last five years but especially in the last two months, if those words are the perpetual truths many assume they are, how we can possibly stand as a Nation with this jagged tear right down the middle of our sacred fabric?

Another national treasure, Rush Limbaugh, who has our prayers every single day, made a statement recently which struck me as hard as this one did, although it simply put in words what many of us have been feeling for some time: What do we have in common with them? He cited past national emergencies when we Americans all pulled together for a common cause, with a dedication fueled by our common love for the land that we love. As Rush noted, that critical component: love, both for and dedication to America and the idea of America simply no longer exists with a large segment of the electorate who voted for Joe Biden, a man described recently as “a sleazy, corrupt-to-the-bone-marrow lifelong politician, who has accomplished absolutely nothing in his 78 years on Planet Earth.” Speaking for myself, which I fervently hope I may continue to be free to do after January 20, 2021, I cannot understand the thinking of an American citizen who would vote for such a person of proven – time and time and time again, dishonesty and corruption or, as I suspect the case actually was for many, who would be so driven by such a white-hot hatred of a person that he or she would vote against President Trump even if the only choice was to vote for such a dangerously sleazy and corrupt person.

Speaker Gingrich sets the stage:

The left’s world is mostly the established world of the forces who have been dominant for most of my life.

My world is the populist rebellion which believes we are being destroyed, our liberties are being cancelled and our religions are under assault. (Note the new Human Rights Campaign to decertify any religious school which does not accept secular sexual values — and that many Democrat governors have kept casinos open while closing churches though the COVID-19 pandemic.) We also believe other Democrat-led COVID-19 policies have enriched the wealthy while crushing middle class small business owners (some 160,000 restaurants may close).

The rest of the piece, which I highly recommend be read in its entirety, continues to enumerate the many ways the world of the far-left is probably by now irreparably irreconcilable with ours and why we are truly living in two different worlds, separated by oceans of distrust, corrosive venality, dishonesty, corruption, amorality, condescension, hubris, arrogance and utter disdain for our Founding Documents, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, upon which our beloved Nation was built.

Thus I return to the question put by Rush Limbaugh and apply it to myself, as I cannot and do not pretend to speak for others, while noting I know to a certainty that many share these views and I also know to a certainty that if there are any factual errors in any of these statements my colleagues here on Ricochet will quickly bring them to the fore.

What do I have in common with those elites in entertainment, academia, and the media who spent the last four years savagely attacking not only our duly elected President, calling him every name in the book such as Hitler and Mussolini, parading around with a mock-up of his severed, bloody and gory head, and, as their designated “President” “elect” and his communications director did recently, calling us, his loyal supporters names such as “chumps” and “f (C of C)s”?

What do I have in common with those mega-rich tech oligarchs (other than the obvious, as “oligarch” I am definitely not) who think their astonishing wealth gives them the power to not only censor the extremely significant news that both Biden and his son were on the take from China and received at least $5 million from an entity controlled by our most dangerous adversary but who also think they have the power, so far totally unchecked by our less than stellar Congress, to censor the President of the United States, an act of hubris never before seen in the history of our Republic.

What do I have in common with members of the media and the far-left loon wing of the Democrat Party and some members of the Republican Party, aka Never Trumpers, who sit on the sidelines as piles of evidence are being accumulated of out-and-out election fraud in the form of affidavits sworn under penalty of perjury and other forms of documentary evidence and repeat the mantra “but there is no widespread evidence of election fraud” and cheer as Judge after spineless Judge refuses to even hear the evidence, including, most sadly, our brand new, great, good for the next half-century, “conservative” majority on the Supreme Court?

What do I have in common with those intrepid members of the media who go out to do on the scene reports while standing in front of the blazing St. John’s Episcopal Church in Washington and state, on camera, for all the world to see, with a straight face, that the scene behind him is a “mostly peaceful” demonstration? As our friend and colleague, Susan Quinn, recently observed in her excellent post “Will there be justice?”, how do these people sleep at night? How do they explain to their children why they must be so blatantly fraudulent just to make a living?

What do I, admittedly not the most devout or regular churchgoer, have in common with a person millions voted to occupy the most powerful office in the world who holds himself out to be a devout, Rosary praying, Roman Catholic, but who now, as phrased in a recent article, “supports abortion up until college graduation, if the mother finds the child inconvenient.”?

What do I have in common with a woman who used every means at her disposal to get ahead, no matter how unsavory or tawdry, and then proceeded to savagely, cruelly, immorally, attack a candidate for the High Court right in front of his wife and little daughters, and then gloated about it, and who also not only did not raise a single question about the Antifa and Black Lives Matter rioters burning down American cities across the land but who also helped raise bail money to get them out of jail, almost certainly never to be seen again by the Court system? I well and truly pray I would never have a single thing in common with such a despicable person, even if she may possibly be (probably?) the President of the United States within the next four years.

What do I have in common with a large, muscular, strong ox of a man in a Law Enforcement uniform who wrestles with a young, small mother sitting in the stands watching her son play football — without, qeulle horreur!, a piece of cloth over her face– putting her in handcuffs in front of her fellow parents (including several large men who, disgracefully, did nothing to help her) and, perhaps more to the point, what do I have in common with despicable, power-mad “leaders”  like Cuomo, Wolfe, Whitmer,  Murphy, DeBlasio, and, sadly, many others who ordered this kind of barbaric behavior?

Would that I could have a more positive outlook as we move into a New Year, carrying so many good promises if for no other reason than not being named 2020, truly annus horribilis, but also bringing us the closest thing we have ever had to a Marxist administration. A year in which the person elected to occupy the Oval Office, the most powerful office in the world, is not in full possession of his cognitive faculties and, at times, simply does not know where he is. A year in which the Biden Administration, an oxymoronic phrase if ever there was one, will be staffed with so many Obamatons as to make it, in effect, Barack Hussein Obama’s third term, a thought which should frighten any citizen with a sentient mind.

Like so many of us, I spent the last four years on that roller coaster ride of watching in awe the boundless energy and creativity and drive and determination of one of the great Presidents in our history while almost simultaneously praying that someone would please, please shut down his Twitter account and take away his phone. I related in a post recently the one emotion one could never fully realize unless they attended one of his rallies– the pure, unadulterated outpouring of love this President’s supporters feel for him. It is a true phenomenon to see and experience for oneself.

Positive outlook? Thank you, but I think I’ll let that cup pass me by.

Sincerely, Jim

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  1. Manny Coolidge
    Manny
    @Manny

    Yeah, the common ground is very small. Nothing actually comes to mind. It used the be the left we’re out to help the poor and we at least had a different approach but at least our goals were the same. The left today don’t give a twit for the poor. Our disagreements are all over social and what I’ll call world view issues. Here we are almost diametrically apart on everything. 

    I have no choice but to call this bozo my president (it’s a fact) but I cannot have any respect for him, nor will I ever be convinced the election was not stolen, not necessarily from fraud but from all the changes to election laws and procedures leading to the election. But there was fraud too. 

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  2. JoelB Member
    JoelB
    @JoelB

    Manny (View Comment):
    I have no choice but to call this bozo my president (it’s a fact) but I cannot have any respect for him, nor will I ever be convinced the election was not stolen, not necessarily from fraud but from all the changes to election laws and procedures leading to the election. But there was fraud too.

    Biden is the pretender to an office not rightfully gained. 

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  3. DonG (Biden is compromised) Coolidge
    DonG (Biden is compromised)
    @DonG

    I think there is some common ground with some Dems. on ending the endless wars and with the union types on bad trade deals.  The DNC is controlled by extremists who are alienating some those people and the classical liberals that value free speech.  

    That said, Biden is a horrible person.  Hugely dishonest.  Corporate media is just propaganda and is the enemy of the people.

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  4. Hoyacon Member
    Hoyacon
    @Hoyacon

    It’s interesting that I can agree with everything you’ve written and not agree with the title.

    With the assumption that Biden will be inaugurated, it’s unlikely that I will support him in any regard.  His presidency has the potential to be disastrous.  To the extent I have the ability, I’ll oppose it.

    But he’s the President of the United States. I choose not to take a similar side with those who derided DJT was not their President.  I don’t have to support him in any regard, but Biden is still the  President, which makes him my President.

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  5. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
    Fake John/Jane Galt
    @FakeJohnJaneGalt

    I used to believe that the person elected was POTUS no matter what.  With Trump the Left has taught me that is no longer true.  Trump was not their POTUS and they actively resisted using every force available to them no matter truth or law.  Since these are their new rules, I will play accordingly.

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  6. Hoyacon Member
    Hoyacon
    @Hoyacon

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    I used to believe that the person elected was POTUS no matter what. With Trump the Left has taught me that is no longer true. Trump was not the POTUS and the actively resisted using every force available no matter truth or law. Since these are their new rules, I will play accordingly.

    And that’s exactly why I won’t.  I’m just not into their rules becoming my rules.

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  7. Jim George Member
    Jim George
    @JimGeorge

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    I used to believe that the person elected was POTUS no matter what. With Trump the Left has taught me that is no longer true. Trump was not the POTUS and the actively resisted using every force available no matter truth or law. Since these are their new rules, I will play accordingly.

    And that’s exactly why I won’t. I’m just not into their rules becoming my rules.

    I appreciated your comment, as it expresses exactly the way I want to feel about the new occupant and the execrable mob he is going to be surrounded with, especially the actual next President. However, after what I have seen them do to our President, and, perhaps much more importantly, to our Nation in the process, destroying every vestige of civility, courtesy, honor, integrity, history, institutions, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, in their path like a horde of locusts, just to get their way about everything, they have, in the process, also destroyed any sense of decorum with which I would have formerly treated them. I saw a piece recently entitled something like “Covid has destroyed the apology”, discussing the wave of hypocrisy by our “leaders” in blatantly disregarding their own lockdown orders. In my case, and I can only speak for myself, it has destroyed a lot more than just that one thing and I believe the anger and bitterness a lot of us feel about the in-your-face corruption with which they stole this election from US, not just the President, has changed many Americans, and not necessarily in a good way. 

    Sincerely, Jim

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  8. E. Kent Golding Moderator
    E. Kent Golding
    @EKentGolding

    Kamala Harris may be able to prevent Joe Biden from ever being your President.   Or at least keep the duration down to a few days.

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  9. Concretevol Thatcher
    Concretevol
    @Concretevol

    Jim you are a good man and I enjoy your posts and comments.  That said, I was disgusted by the entire “#Resist”, “he’s not my president” BS from the left and I will be damned if I now emulate them.  The left acts like petulant children who want to change the rules (electoral college, senate makeup, etc…) any time they win or declare results to be invalid/stolen.  So now that is the game plan of the right too??  Ugh….count me out.  

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  10. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    These are deeply discouraging times, Jim. Every part of our government, at every level, has let us down. What are we to do now? I still believe we should do our best to influence, badger and cajole our legislators to do the right thing. But after their arguments with Trump’s demands (I didn’t so much care about the $2,000 but all the pork in the COVID bill) and their refusal to acknowledge that they’d voted for an outrageous bill, I’m not even sure about trying to get through to them. (Thanks, too, for the kind words.)

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  11. Concretevol Thatcher
    Concretevol
    @Concretevol

    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):

    Kamala Harris may be able to prevent Joe Biden from ever being your President. Or at least keep the duration down to a few days.

    I agree with Charlie Cooke when he said that Biden needs to hire RBG’s personal trainer ASAP!  Kamala Harris does not need to be anywhere near the top job!

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  12. Jim George Member
    Jim George
    @JimGeorge

    Concretevol (View Comment):

    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):

    Kamala Harris may be able to prevent Joe Biden from ever being your President. Or at least keep the duration down to a few days.

    I agree with Charlie Cooke when he said that Biden needs to hire RBG’s personal trainer ASAP! Kamala Harris does not need to be anywhere near the top job!

    I agree that Harris is one of the most dangerous pols to come along in a very long time; she could, given the power, make even Hussein Obama look like a piker. That said, like it or not, she is, thanks to the efforts of millions on the far-left (how many millions? We’ll never know!) combined with the impossible-to-understand Never Trumpers, Lincoln Project, Bulwark, etc. devotees, some of whom are, astonishingly, to me, at least, dues paying members of Ricochet, for reasons I will never understand, Kamala Harris is indeed next in line to the Presidency of the United States. I, quite simply, do not know how to process a thought so horrible and carrying such potential danger for our Republic as that. 

    Also, thanks for your comment #9– I only wish I could still feel that way. I know my Pastor would strongly advise that I should still feel that way, but that ship has sailed. Sadly.

    Sincerely, Jim

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  13. Concretevol Thatcher
    Concretevol
    @Concretevol

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    These are deeply discouraging times, Jim. Every part of our government, at every level, has let us down. What are we to do now? I still believe we should do our best to influence, badger and cajole our legislators to do the right thing. But after their arguments with Trump’s demands (I didn’t so much care about the $2,000 but all the pork in the COVID bill) and their refusal to acknowledge that they’d voted for an outrageous bill, I’m not even sure about trying to get through to them. (Thanks, too, for the kind words.)

    Federalism is the only “answer” (maybe too strong of a word)  Decentralization of power.  Sure, government fails at every level but as a conservative I expect and plan for that to happen.  Washington cannot be really reformed, only emasculated.  Take their power, elect strong state governments that won’t bow to DC’s pressure.  Elect strong local governments that won’t bow to the state’s pressure.  Besides all the terrible stories of petty tyrants in local governments abusing their Covid emergency authority, there are other instances of local government and law enforcement officials refusing to go along with draconian measures in their communities.  When public health officials overstepped their bounds in our area, the Sheriff’s department said if someone saw a violation to “call the health department, not them” because they were busy with actual crime.  Maybe so many examples of government failing will create an opportunity for us to make the argument for limited government and privatization.  

    All is not lost Susan  :)

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  14. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    Concretevol (View Comment):
    Take their power, elect strong state governments that won’t bow to DC’s pressure. Elect strong local governments that won’t bow to the state’s pressure.

    I guess I’m not certain that at the state and local level, people will finally take charge. Although we also have a strong sheriff who won’t put up with nonsense. I live in a conservative county, too, so there’s that. Thanks for the encouraging words, Concretevol.

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  15. Concretevol Thatcher
    Concretevol
    @Concretevol

    Jim George (View Comment):
     Lincoln Project, Bulwark

    I really don’t think these groups had much if any influence.  Their great declared goal was to defeat Repulicans in their Senate and House races I guess in order to punish them for not opposing Trump enough? (except for Romney, they looove them some Romney)  Didn’t work….actually the opposite happened.  Hopefully those groups will enter political purgatory and fade away since their only reason for existence does not exist anymore.  

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  16. namlliT noD Member
    namlliT noD
    @DonTillman

    Well, now that the standards have been set, all we have to do is print up 7 million ballots, and say, “Hey, we discovered these uncounted ballots!  You have to include these.”

    Alternately, we could demand that recounts be done with the new Noinimod machines, which route the votes to Kekistan where they can be accurately tallied.

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  17. Flicker Coolidge
    Flicker
    @Flicker

    Concretevol (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    These are deeply discouraging times, Jim. Every part of our government, at every level, has let us down. What are we to do now? I still believe we should do our best to influence, badger and cajole our legislators to do the right thing. But after their arguments with Trump’s demands (I didn’t so much care about the $2,000 but all the pork in the COVID bill) and their refusal to acknowledge that they’d voted for an outrageous bill, I’m not even sure about trying to get through to them. (Thanks, too, for the kind words.)

    Federalism is the only “answer” (maybe too strong of a word) Decentralization of power. Sure, government fails at every level but as a conservative I expect and plan for that to happen. Washington cannot be really reformed, only emasculated. Take their power, elect strong state governments that won’t bow to DC’s pressure. Elect strong local governments that won’t bow to the state’s pressure. Besides all the terrible stories of petty tyrants in local governments abusing their Covid emergency authority, there are other instances of local government and law enforcement officials refusing to go along with draconian measures in their communities. When public health officials overstepped their bounds in our area, the Sheriff’s department said if someone saw a violation to “call the health department, not them” because they were busy with actual crime. Maybe so many examples of government failing will create an opportunity for us to make the argument for limited government and privatization.

    All is not lost Susan :)

    I honestly think that a political cleaning out is necessary in local, state and federal office holders.  Mass arrests sounds too volcanic, but maybe that’s what’s necessary.  Lately I’ve been thinking about pelosi, stimulated by her words that the country can’t afford to give more than $600 per person, but she criticized that, what was it?, $2000 from Trump’s tax rebates were “crumbs”.  Once or twice of such inconsistency I can overlook, but she’s gotten violent in her speech.  Drag Trump out of the White house by his small hands and feet?  That’s vile and violent.

    But it’s representative of how the Dems, the Press and the never-Trumpers have acted for over four years now.  Even pelosi’s idea of impeaching Trump just to cause a historical stain on his presidency, for no other reason, showed terrible character on her part, and on the part of anyone who went along with it.

    The covid lockdowns.  The dismissal of rioting.  The active racism.  The Biden family china corruption.  The openly partisan mega-media companies actively withholding information and swaying the election.  And the election fraud.  And judges at all levels never even giving the evidence a fair hearing.

    All who actively endorsed this should be arrested.  Then perhaps the country can be led back to peace, productivity and prosperity.

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  18. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member
    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio…
    @ArizonaPatriot

    Jim, I agree with much of what you say.

    I disagree with this part, which I consider to be a very unfair mischaracterization of what happened.  If this is the sort of thing about which we must agree before being on the “same team,” then you’ll have to count me out, which would be unfortunate.

    Jim George: What do I have in common with a large, muscular, strong ox of a man in a Law Enforcement uniform who wrestles with a young, small mother sitting in the stands watching her son play football — without, qeulle horreur!, a piece of cloth over her face– putting her in handcuffs in front of her fellow parents (including several large men who, disgracefully, did nothing to help her) and, perhaps more to the point, what do I have in common with despicable, power-mad “leaders” like Cuomo, Wolfe, Whitmer, Murphy, DeBlasio, and, sadly, many others who ordered this kind of barbaric behavior?

    I find this to be anti-law-enforcement in an unfortunate way.  It actually reminds me of the position taken by the BLM and Antifa folks.  A school is entitled to set the rules for presence on its property, and this school required masks at the football game.  There could be reasonable disagreement about whether or not this is a good policy, but they were entitled to make it, and many businesses, churches, and other organizations made the same decision.

    Someone who refuses to comply with a landowner’s rule about requirements for being on the landowner’s property may properly be asked to comply, or leave.  If the person refuses to do so — which it appears to be what the woman involved in this altercation did — then that person becomes a trespasser.  If a trespasser refuses to leave, the trespasser may be forcefully ejected.

    The person in the wrong was the woman, not the cop.  Sure, it’s possible that it could have been handled better by the cop, although maybe not.  I have little or no sympathy for intransigent people refusing lawful orders from authorities.

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  19. Raxxalan Member
    Raxxalan
    @Raxxalan

    We are in for a Harrowing.  The only way out is through.  In the final analysis Obama succeeded.  He did fundamentally remake the country.  There may be a US as a place on a map in future years; however, I doubt it will bear any resemblance to the country of my youth.

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  20. Dennis A. Garcia (formerly Gai… Inactive
    Dennis A. Garcia (formerly Gai…
    @Gaius

    This was a dumb line when the left used it and just as dumb here. But then the right seems to be on a quest to mimic their most extreme foes in every respect. No president should be “my president,” a hideously worshipful and unrepublican phrase, but Biden is the president. If you don’t accept him as such then you don’t accept the constitution, in which case see you at Appomattox.

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  21. David March Coolidge
    David March
    @ToryWarWriter

    Every single sentence that Newt wrote is absolutely true.  Could have been written by me in fact.

    But I am going to say something upopular here.  This was all Trumps fault.  He listened to bad people and bad actors, and exiled his loyalists like Newt to Italy.  Do we think we would have had the entire Flynn Debacle had Newt been Chief of Staff or Chris Christie?

    Speaking of the ex Governor.  He spent the last half of 2016, creating a list of people to staff the new administration.  Many people earnest to help bring and support Trumps revolution.  Trump throughout all that in favor of Reince Preibus who is probably the worst Chief of Staff in the history of the position.

    The revolving door of cabinet positions, is because of Trump.  Its sad that he had his election stolen from him.  But its his fault.  He was warned repeatedly by people like me, (I spoke up on Ricochet about ACB), who promptly betrayed him.  Its important to note that out of 4 Supreme Court Justices nominees not a single one agreed to hear multiple cases of election Fraud.  Gutless Cowards from our ‘friends’ at the Federalist society.

    May the name Kavanaugh, be placed along the names of Benedict Arnold, and Kim Philby.

    Sorry I am starting to angrily ramble.

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  22. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker
    @CarolJoy

    No , he will never be The President of anyone who values the spiritual and moral compass of America.

    I have no doubt that Biden is a puppet of the CCP. All the many years of the Left harping on Trump being in bed with the Russians now make sense.

    After all, the Saul Alinsky playbook demands that anyone looking for power project what they are doing onto their opponent.

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  23. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker
    @CarolJoy

    Dennis A. Garcia (formerly Gai… (View Comment):

    This was a dumb line when the left used it and just as dumb here. But then the right seems to be on a quest to mimic their most extreme foes in every respect. No president should be “my president,” a hideously worshipful and unrepublican phrase, but Biden is the president. If you don’t accept him as such then you don’t accept the constitution, in which case see you at Appomattox.

    I am sorry, but many of us here do not see any phrase or statements in the US Constitution that tell us we must submit to a group of people who are proxies for a foreign Overlord, such as the CCP.

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  24. Quintus Sertorius Coolidge
    Quintus Sertorius
    @BillGollier

    Dennis A. Garcia (formerly Gai… (View Comment):

    This was a dumb line when the left used it and just as dumb here. But then the right seems to be on a quest to mimic their most extreme foes in every respect. No president should be “my president,” a hideously worshipful and unrepublican phrase, but Biden is the president. If you don’t accept him as such then you don’t accept the constitution, in which case see you at Appomattox.

    Well said! It frustrates me when the right of center sounds like my petulant faculty colleagues of the Democratic Party. Legal attempts were made to challenge the election and they failed…no I don’t buy the stolen theories and bribed judges….Donald Trump lost….he could have won but decided not to run to his strengths…it is his responsibility Joe Biden is president. If House Republicans challenge on January 6th then any gains made in down ballot will be lost. Time to move on and away from Donald Trump….he has served his purpose…bring on Tim Scott.

    I do not like Joe Biden but he is president.

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  25. Western Chauvinist Member
    Western Chauvinist
    @WesternChauvinist

    Concretevol (View Comment):
    Federalism is the only “answer” (maybe too strong of a word) Decentralization of power. Sure, government fails at every level but as a conservative I expect and plan for that to happen. Washington cannot be really reformed, only emasculated.

    Wishful thinking. There is no “emasculating” Leviathan. Leviathan holds all the power.

    Until people like us — ordinary Americans — are out in the streets, there’s no way we defeat the Left by the old rules of civility and decorum. This is the tragic flaw in the Nevers’ thinking. They just “never” understood the need for a guy who will fight and get dirty in the trenches. The Left destroyed the old rules quite thoroughly with its long march through the institutions. We either fight back or we roll over into a thousand years of darkness, as a famous conservative once said.

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  26. Concretevol Thatcher
    Concretevol
    @Concretevol

    Flicker (View Comment):
    All who actively endorsed this should be arrested. Then perhaps the country can be led back to peace, productivity and prosperity.

    Arrested by who and on what charges?  Come one man, this is French revolution stuff and the guillotine comes for everyone eventually.  :)  You do realize that is the exact stuff said by the left when Trump was elected…..it was fraud and cheating.  People need to be arrested. 

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  27. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker
    @CarolJoy

    DonG (Biden is compromised) (View Comment):

    I think there is some common ground with some Dems. on ending the endless wars and with the union types on bad trade deals. The DNC is controlled by extremists who are alienating some those people and the classical liberals that value free speech.

    That said, Biden is a horrible person. Hugely dishonest. Corporate media is just propaganda and is the enemy of the people.

    The problem is that the Dems Always State They Exist To End The Endless Wars.

    And their rank and file always believes they will do it.

    However the past instructs the public as to how a group will act in the future.

    Name one war since 1915 which wasn’t allowed to either start or flourish under a Democrat Congress and President. The exception would be President Poppy Bush’s intrusion into Iraq, which was led by that ex-CIA director and his desire for a NWO. (His desire for the NWO ws clearly stated in his preamble of encouragement that t this was a necessary war. Yeah it was necessary – if your companies were part of the group selling slant oil drilling to the Kuwaiti government.)

    The Left has also promised to end poverty, crime in the cities, and give us all a green environment.Perhaps it makes these statements to offer the public a needed laugh at their expense?

    An individual only has to look at Rendall’s record in PA and Jerry Brown’s record in Calif to see the Dems don’t even avoid the fracking that they state is a big part of Global Climate Crisis. Under Brown, so much fracking occurred east of Los Angeles that the entire region once occupied by drilling forces is now subsiding into the earth.

    If people here accept fracking so be it. But I can’t accept a party that endlessly promotes itself as the Party of Peace, Green-a-tivity and Prosperity, which then turns around and does exactly the things it claims are wrong.

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  28. Concretevol Thatcher
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Concretevol (View Comment):
    Federalism is the only “answer” (maybe too strong of a word) Decentralization of power. Sure, government fails at every level but as a conservative I expect and plan for that to happen. Washington cannot be really reformed, only emasculated.

    Wishful thinking. There is no “emasculating” Leviathan. Leviathan holds all the power.

    Until people like us — ordinary Americans — are out in the streets, there’s no way we defeat the Left by the old rules of civility and decorum. This is the tragic flaw in the Nevers thinking. They just “never” understood the need for a guy who will fight and get dirty in the trenches. The Left destroyed the old rules quite thoroughly with its long march through the institutions. We either fight back or we roll over into a thousand years of darkness, as a famous conservative once said.

    Their power can be taken but yeah, it will never be given.  The question isn’t whether we fight, the question is what constitutes “fighting”.  Spouting conspiracies and seeing black helicopters everywhere ain’t fighting.  Blaming everyone else for losing isn’t fighting, it’s whining.  You know who does actually defends the “old rules” of civility etc….CONSERVATIVES.  It’s kinda their thing ya know?   Being a thug, a fear mongerer, and using disgusting tactics of the left isn’t gonna win anything in my opinion. 

    Besides, as Mark said: “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?”

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  29. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Concretevol (View Comment):
    Being a thug, a fear mongerer, and using disgusting tactics of the left isn’t gonna win anything in my opinion. 

    Who said anything about being thugs? I think Jim and I are referring to civil disobedience something akin to the Tea Party, but with more oomph. Why is the type of “in-the-streets” conservative resistance always characterized as thuggery? — especially by the Narrative builders in the MSM? Because it works. Because they keep us docile that way. Ooo, wouldn’t want to be called “thugs” (or “racists” or “homophobes” or, or, or. . .).

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  30. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Concretevol (View Comment):
    You do realize that is the exact stuff said by the left when Trump was elected…..it was fraud and cheating. People need to be arrested. 

    Yeah, the difference is the Left was lying (Russia Hoax). How do you plan to defeat an ideology that a) denies objective truth, and b) uses the Big Lie to achieve its ends of ultimate power? Everyone should just stay calm and elect conservatives to local government? Good luck with that.

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