Am I a Cuck?

 

Toby and James in happier, more COVID-casual times

My good friend James Delingpole and I have had a few disagreements over the last couple of weeks on London Calling. In my current Spectator column I talk about the dynamics of our “special relationship:

‘You’re a cuck, Tobes, an absolute cuck.’ My friend James Delingpole was furious. ‘Honestly, I thought I could depend on you of all people, but you’ve surrendered, just like every other right-wing commentator I know. I can’t begin to describe how disappointing this is. I would have expected it from some — Dan Hannan, Jonah Goldberg, the editors of the National Review — all bloody cucks, the lot of them. But not you, Tobes. I’m alone in the foxhole.’

This outburst would have been hard to listen to under normal circumstances, but it occurred on air during our weekly podcast on Ricochet. Needless to say, we were discussing the presidential election and James is 100 percent convinced that Donald Trump was the victim of a massive electoral fraud. He’s reached the final stage of the five stages of grief — and I’m not talking about Elisabeth Kübler-Ross’s stages, but those of die-hard Trumpers: denial, anger, paranoia, grievance and incandescent rage.

Read the rest at The Spectator USA.

 

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  1. J Climacus Member
    J Climacus
    @JClimacus

    ‘I dare say some unsigned postal votes for Trump were declared invalid in some districts and some unsigned postal votes for Biden were counted when they shouldn’t have been. But the opposite probably happened in other districts. Yes, some votes got lost and, yes, quite a lot came in at the last minute. But do you know for certain that Biden was the beneficiary in every case or even the majority of cases?

    Well, yeah, we do. Not in every case but most of them. It’s in the statistics. 

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  2. ctlaw Coolidge
    ctlaw
    @ctlaw

    Short answer yes. Long answer very much so.

    You displayed profound ignorance of the US electoral system. As you quote yourself in the Spectator article:

    We’re not talking Bush v. Gore here, James. Biden beat Trump by more than six million votes. That’s 6,173,445 ballots getting lost down the back of the sofa.

    A schoolchild should see the fallacy. Total national votes are not relevant.

    The margin of fraud need only to be a few hundred thousand votes in just several of the swing states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada, and Arizona. And there s plenty of evidence of that.

    Electors in the Electoral College are allocated by state. This firewalls fraud and passion in any individual state. If California and New York via fraud or passion claim 30 million Californians and 20 million New Yorkers voted for Biden and none for Trump, that would not make a difference relative to Biden winning 100 votes to 99 in each of those states. In fact, Biden is reported to have won CA by over 5 million and NY by 2 million.

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  3. David March Coolidge
    David March
    @ToryWarWriter

    I dont like the word ‘cuck’.  Ignorant or foolish could be a better word.

    I dont know how your experience with elections is.  But the fact is in multiple counties, where Biden out performed incredibly, their was no watching of the ballot process and scrutineers were prevented from watching the vote.  

    My condo board election was more secure than the USA election.  

    Those are the facts.  I am in the foxhole with James Dellingpole so hes not alone.  

    My experience is that most of the commentariat is just ignorant of elections work, having only observed and reported on other peoples work.  Those who actually know what there talking about are not in the conversation.

    As a Canadian talking to a lot of Americans lately, its like talking to people with Stockholm syndrome.

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  4. James Gawron Inactive
    James Gawron
    @JamesGawron

    Toby,

    James very much approves of your hard work on the tactical level and so do I. Keep up the good work. However, James feels that there may be larger strategic issues involved. I am forced to agree with him on this. I think James is just trying to goad you into more of your good efforts by calling you a cuck so don’t worry about it.

    As far as the strategic adversary.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  5. Dennis A. Garcia (formerly Gai… Inactive
    Dennis A. Garcia (formerly Gai…
    @Gaius

    Toby Young: Dan Hannan, Jonah Goldberg, the editors of the National Review

    If so, I’d say you’re a cuck in good company.

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  6. Franz Drumlin Inactive
    Franz Drumlin
    @FranzDrumlin

    Yeah, this is going to be tough. Us Trump Skeptics have been getting it good and hard from the likes of Kurt Schlichter the past few years and most of the time I just shrug and walk on. Let the Left descend into ‘Jay Lovestone is a Lovestone-ite!’ factionalism; we on the Right have family squabbles, not full-out civil war. The next National Review cruise end up in a slobbering love-fest with Sebastian Gorka giving Jonah Goldberg a noogie as he croons “I love you, man!  You know that, right?” while off in the corner David French and Mollie Hemingway stare into each others eyes as they sing ‘someone’s crying Lord, kumbaya . . .’ Instead, I fear five weeks or so from now a couple of weary D.C. police will be standing in the doorway of the Oval Office saying something like “You best leave now, sir. The new tenants are anxious to move in . . . Don’t make me get out my pepper spray!”

    Like I said, this is going to be tough.

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  7. Charlotte Member
    Charlotte
    @Charlotte

    Tobes! I’d prefer not to opine on your relative level of cuckishness (cuckery?), but it’s delightful to see you here. Love the show and hope your friendship with James survives the 2020 US Presidential election.

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  8. Henry Racette Member
    Henry Racette
    @HenryRacette

    Mr. Young,

    I’ve never cared for the cuck label, though I know your friend James likes it quite a lot. While I enjoy the podcast you two do together — and, for that matter, James’ solo effort at the Delilngpod — his vulgarity is tiresome and wears thin.

    I think you probably underestimate the degree of cheating that went on, and probably see it as more evenly distributed than I suspect it was. But I share your view that there was no conspiracy per se, and think it likely that Biden actually did win based on valid votes cast (though, I would add, only with the assistance of a grotesquely dishonest and complicit press).

    My own position is somewhere between the two of you, but closer to yours.

    Incidentally, your work at Lockdown Skeptics is terrific, but your efforts at the Free Speech Union are even better. I heartily recommend it to anyone who hasn’t visited the site. Your introductory video is superb.

    Thanks for your efforts,
    Hank

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  9. Western Chauvinist Member
    Western Chauvinist
    @WesternChauvinist

    I have to say, I was embarrassed for you, Toby. But, it wasn’t the first time. . .

    Try to develop some curiosity about how the electoral college works. And then develop some curiosity about how Trump won 94% of the bellwether districts, but lost the election. Or about Republican poll watchers being forced out of the counting (as Scott Adams says, it was non-transparent by force).  Or the CNN count totals in Pennsylvania actually decreasing for Trump (and in one case for Biden) when vote counts are always, always additive. And ask yourself, how did that happen?

    I’m not saying Biden won’t be president. He’s successfully run out the clock. But, this election stinks to high heaven. It’s a bad, bad sign for all of us in the West.

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  10. Western Chauvinist Member
    Western Chauvinist
    @WesternChauvinist

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  11. Biden Pure Demagogue Inactive
    Biden Pure Demagogue
    @Pseudodionysius

    I dont like the word ‘cuck’. Ignorant or foolish could be a better word.

    As a British friend of mine always says when he hears that pejorative.:

    “Perhaps it was just a typo.”

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  12. Biden Pure Demagogue Inactive
    Biden Pure Demagogue
    @Pseudodionysius

    For the record I prefer

    Febreze Wheezing Surrender Flunkie

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  13. Rōnin Coolidge
    Rōnin
    @Ronin

    Tobes, I don’t like the current circumstances we find ourselves in, and there is not a hell of a lot I can do about it.  This makes me angry, frustrated and apprehensive about the future of the West and the Anglosphere in particular.  I can only imagine what it makes you and James feel like.  But, calling each other names in public is not in good form – disagree yes, but keep the personnel attacks to yourselves.  It doesn’t help the cause and makes everyone look like asshats.  Let’s us try to take the emotions out and try to objectively/logically figure out what the next course of action will be.

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  14. James Anderson Inactive
    James Anderson
    @JamesAnderson

    I agree with the principal that one should not attribute to malice what is more easily explained with stupidity.  I understand that there could exist a bio weapon lab horror that could take out large swaths of humanity (don’t tell James to look into the 23 and me  conspiracy (there isn’t a tin foil hat thick enough)!) and it was right to be cautious. But it’s been a year and the death count is so low.  It’s obvious it’s a bad flu.   The debt, the small business destruction.  The cost.  People under 70 need to get off the couch, wade through the sea of empty bottles to the door and get back to work.  Any politician who opposes this should have their salary set to zero.

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  15. Biden Pure Demagogue Inactive
    Biden Pure Demagogue
    @Pseudodionysius

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  16. Drusus Inactive
    Drusus
    @Drusus

    No, you are not. I mean, I don’t know what you like to do with your sex life, but not in the political sense. I do so love being called a sheep by people who can’t see how their own disinformation outlets profit off of selling them exactly what they want to hear. 

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  17. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Dennis A. Garcia (formerly Gai… (View Comment):

    Toby Young: Dan Hannan, Jonah Goldberg, the editors of the National Review

    If so, I’d say you’re a cuck in good company.

    Uh.

    What?

    So it’s okay, even good, to be a shyster as long as you’re with other shysters?

    Being a shyster is bad, and being a shyster in a group with other shysters does not make it better.

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  18. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

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    Or more for the real world, this:

     

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  19. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
    Joseph Stanko
    @JosephStanko

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    Or the CNN count totals in Pennsylvania actually decreasing for Trump (and in one case for Biden) when vote counts are always, always additive. And ask yourself, how did that happen?

    Maybe someone at CNN made a mistake. Hard to imagine, right?

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  20. dukenaltum Inactive
    dukenaltum
    @dukenaltum

    Some dislike the use of war terminology in the conduct of politics but consider that America wins every battle against the Left but always loses the war because the Left refuses to accept their defeat as invalidating their totalitarian inclinations as long as they maintain some power.  It is a strategy worth of some emulation for the sake of liberty.   

    Anglophilia helps a bit… 

    • Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.
    • If you’re going through hell, keep going.
    • Never, never, never give up.
    • When you are going through hell, keep on going.
    • Never give in.
    • Never give up on something that you can’t go a day without thinking about.
    •  Winston Spencer Churchill (Anglo-American Prime Minister.)   

    The election of Donald Trump was a course correction that was relentlessly countered attack for four years with extraordinary vile singlemindedness.  His re-election was lost by what ever means the Left could muster.  The same Left that inflicted economic collapse on the world because of novel cold sourced from Communist China and convinced people that the death of eleven petty criminals at the hands of Law enforcement was a crisis is not too moral to cheat at electoral politics.  

    Joseph Biden is a wicked and corrupt simpleton whose election is a gift.  This should be an easy contest for the next couple of years.. but   Never, never, never give up 

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  21. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
    Gazpacho Grande'
    @ChrisCampion

    David March (View Comment):

    I dont like the word ‘cuck’. Ignorant or foolish could be a better word.

    I dont know how your experience with elections is. But the fact is in multiple counties, where Biden out performed incredibly, their was no watching of the ballot process and scrutineers were prevented from watching the vote.

    My condo board election was more secure than the USA election.

    Those are the facts. I am in the foxhole with James Dellingpole so hes not alone.

    My experience is that most of the commentariat is just ignorant of elections work, having only observed and reported on other peoples work. Those who actually know what there talking about are not in the conversation.

    As a Canadian talking to a lot of Americans lately, its like talking to people with Stockholm syndrome.

    Thanks David!

    Flag of Canada (Pantone).svg

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  22. JoelB Member
    JoelB
    @JoelB

    Hey guys, What are we trying to say with the picture in the OP? COC for thee, but not for me? This is the front page where we are supposed to be serious and respectful. Can’t be having anything that would give the public the idea that we are just a bunch of goofballs – or does that just apply for members?

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  23. I Walton Member
    I Walton
    @IWalton

    Of course it was fraud, and we all know it, even most Democrats.   Are we to accept it, just as we are to accept packing the court, opening the border widely, expanding trade with China, turning over our country to them in the process.   We may have to accept the fraud because the Supreme court won’t take it up, the media is on board with it, and both sides of Congress are  happy to get rid of the guy who ran things against their tendency to enrich themselves.   We have to keep the reality at the front of our minds or the Republic may be over.  If they can steal an election with the White House in the wrong hands, do folks think future elections will be honest?  With time they could be, but the  top down system will narrow and eventually rot, that’s what such systems do and that enables China to dominate before they rot themselves.

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  24. EJHill Podcaster
    EJHill
    @EJHill

    JoelB: Hey guys, What are we trying to say with the picture in the OP?

    Well, if you go back about a year ago and listen to the post-election special we did, you’d know that this is the actually the 2nd time that picture has run on Ricochet. At that time, with an 80-seat majority, it was believed that Brexit at the end of January was a done deal and Toby and James proposed recreating the famous Life magazine photo of the sailor and the nurse kissing in Times Square on V-J Day. 

    Just because one writes on serious subjects it doesn’t mean one is humourless about them.

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  25. Western Chauvinist Member
    Western Chauvinist
    @WesternChauvinist

    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    Or the CNN count totals in Pennsylvania actually decreasing for Trump (and in one case for Biden) when vote counts are always, always additive. And ask yourself, how did that happen?

    Maybe someone at CNN made a mistake. Hard to imagine, right?

    Nope. CNN news readers just repeat what the aggregators send them:

    https://rumble.com/vbu6xh-election-night-errors-how-did-that-happen.html

     

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  26. James Gawron Inactive
    James Gawron
    @JamesGawron

    Biden Pure Demagogue (View Comment):

    PBD,

    Well gosh, Joe had all his marbles. I wonder exactly when Joe lost all integrity and his grip on reality.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  27. Front Seat Cat Member
    Front Seat Cat
    @FrontSeatCat

    David March (View Comment):

    I dont like the word ‘cuck’. Ignorant or foolish could be a better word.

    I dont know how your experience with elections is. But the fact is in multiple counties, where Biden out performed incredibly, their was no watching of the ballot process and scrutineers were prevented from watching the vote.

    My condo board election was more secure than the USA election.

    Those are the facts. I am in the foxhole with James Dellingpole so hes not alone.

    My experience is that most of the commentariat is just ignorant of elections work, having only observed and reported on other peoples work. Those who actually know what there talking about are not in the conversation.

    As a Canadian talking to a lot of Americans lately, its like talking to people with Stockholm syndrome.

    What’s a cuck?

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  28. JoelB Member
    JoelB
    @JoelB

    EJHill (View Comment):

    JoelB: Hey guys, What are we trying to say with the picture in the OP?

    Well, if you go back about a year ago and listen to the post-election special we did, you’d know that this is the actually the 2nd time that picture has run on Ricochet. At that time, with an 80-seat majority, it was believed that Brexit at the end of January was a done deal and Toby and James proposed recreating the famous Life magazine photo of the sailor and the nurse kissing in Times Square on V-J Day.

    Just because one writes on serious subjects it doesn’t mean one is humourless about them.

    James & Tobes should just get a room.

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  29. JoelB Member
    JoelB
    @JoelB

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    David March (View Comment):

    I dont like the word ‘cuck’. Ignorant or foolish could be a better word.

    I dont know how your experience with elections is. But the fact is in multiple counties, where Biden out performed incredibly, their was no watching of the ballot process and scrutineers were prevented from watching the vote.

    My condo board election was more secure than the USA election.

    Those are the facts. I am in the foxhole with James Dellingpole so hes not alone.

    My experience is that most of the commentariat is just ignorant of elections work, having only observed and reported on other peoples work. Those who actually know what there talking about are not in the conversation.

    As a Canadian talking to a lot of Americans lately, its like talking to people with Stockholm syndrome.

    What’s a cuck?

    A male duck?

     

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  30. Bishop Wash Member
    Bishop Wash
    @BishopWash

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    David March (View Comment):

    I dont like the word ‘cuck’. Ignorant or foolish could be a better word.

    I dont know how your experience with elections is. But the fact is in multiple counties, where Biden out performed incredibly, their was no watching of the ballot process and scrutineers were prevented from watching the vote.

    My condo board election was more secure than the USA election.

    Those are the facts. I am in the foxhole with James Dellingpole so hes not alone.

    My experience is that most of the commentariat is just ignorant of elections work, having only observed and reported on other peoples work. Those who actually know what there talking about are not in the conversation.

    As a Canadian talking to a lot of Americans lately, its like talking to people with Stockholm syndrome.

    What’s a cuck?

    Let’s see if this is delicate enough. Cuck comes from cuckhold, which is a male who derives pleasure from watching his wife be taken by another male.

    Edit: I should add that in general slang it’s come to mean a weak male, one easily dominated by others.

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