Recommended by Ricochet Members Created with Sketch. The End of FoxNews As We Know It?

 

FoxNews is losing viewers…rapidly. The intensity of the anger by longtime viewers expressed in responses on Twitter alone is palpable. Newsmax and many of the other more independent sources for news – many of them available for free on PlutoTV.com through Roku, AppleTV, and other streaming devices or directly online through their internet sites are seeing a massive surge in viewership. Newsmax recently announced that it will not make a call on the presidential winner of this election until all the votes have been counted, until all legal challenges have been resolved and all elections certified by their states. A refreshing approach.

From Newsmax:

It is official. Newsmax TV surpassed both Fox Business and CNBC in daytime ratings the day after Election Day.

Nielsen reported Wednesday that Newsmax drew 287,000 average viewers per minute in the key daypart 9am to 4pm, outpacing CNBC with 285,000 viewers and Fox Business with 281,000.

Newsmax also outpaced Fox Business in primetime, with 205,000 viewers compared to 138,000.

The Nielsen rating only tells part of the story. OTT viewership on platforms like YouTube added an additional 100,000 per minute live viewers tuned into Newsmax TV on Wednesday.

And there are the following tweets, some from notable personalities:

In my most humble opinion, I believe FoxNews can no longer claim the mantle of being “fair and balanced”. They have shown their unfair and unbalanced hand and are now paying the price.

 

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  1. Biden Pure Demagogue Coolidge
    Biden Pure Demagogue Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Good riddance to all of them. The keepers amongst them will land somewhere else. Proud to be a member of the #FoxNeverWatchers

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    • November 9, 2020, at 2:50 PM PST
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  2. PHCheese Member

    I haven’t watched since they called AZ.

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    • November 9, 2020, at 2:53 PM PST
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  3. Bob Wainwright Member

    https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/foxs-cavuto-cuts-off-trump-campaign-presser-with-scathing-smackdown-i-cant-in-good-countenance-continue-showing-this/

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    • November 9, 2020, at 2:56 PM PST
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  4. Mark Camp Member

    Brian Watt: In my most humble opinion, I believe FoxNews can no longer claim the mantle of being “fair and balanced”.

    I have no opinion, humble or otherwise, because this is one of those questions of efficient household management that I have delegated to my competent and dutiful staff.

    By coincidence, my Chief of Staff just informed me a few hours ago that she has implemented a new policy, and for the very same reasoning, having to do with “fair and balanced/changes in behavior regarding”.

    I will now get my daily executive briefings from NewsMax, plus a remnant of Fox: Tucker, plus The Five.

    I’ve only seen a little of the content from the new source. Some guy named Howie Carr. So far I’m impressed.

    But I’m easily impressed. I used to think Brett Baier was fair and balanced.

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    • November 9, 2020, at 3:10 PM PST
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  5. DonG (Biden is compromised) Coolidge

    Biden Pure Demagogue (View Comment):

    Good riddance to all of them. The keepers amongst them will land somewhere else.

    Tucker and Janine will be dandy on the new network run by Don Jr.

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    • November 9, 2020, at 3:10 PM PST
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  6. Richard Easton Member

    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    Brian Watt: In my most humble opinion, I believe FoxNews can no longer claim the mantle of being “fair and balanced”.

    I have no opinion, humble or otherwise, because this is one of those questions of efficient household management that I have delegated to my competent and dutiful staff.

    By coincidence, my Chief of Staff just informed a few hours ago that she just implemented a new policy, and for the very same reasoning, having to do with “fair and balanced/changes in behavior regarding”.

    I will now get my daily executive briefings from NewsMax, plus a remnant of Fox: Tucker, plus The Five.

    I’ve only seen a little of the content from the new source. Some guy named Howie Carr. So far I’m impressed.

    But I’m easily impressed. I used to think Brett Baier was fair and balanced.

    Howie Carr is great. I listen to him on the radio when I’m in NH.

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    • November 9, 2020, at 3:22 PM PST
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  7. Richard Easton Member

    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/11/07/nolte-backlash-against-fox-news-explodes/

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    • November 9, 2020, at 3:31 PM PST
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  8. Mr Nick Member

    Today Fox News was attacked from both Rush, the undisputed king of talk radio, and Steven Crowder, arguably the most popular conservative on YouTube. 

    This wasn’t competitors sticking the boot in. Neither was really happy to have to do so. 

     

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    • November 9, 2020, at 3:35 PM PST
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  9. Brian Watt Member
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    • November 9, 2020, at 3:36 PM PST
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  10. Bob Wainwright Member

    The Neil Cavuto censorship tonight blew my mind. I rewatched and recorded just to make sure I wasn’t hearing things. What he said was 100% exactly the same justification Twitter and Facebook used to justify the censorship of the New York Post: it doesn’t matter if it’s a valid news story; It doesn’t matter if the speaker is the President or his spokesman. If I think it’s wrong, you can’t watch it.

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    • November 9, 2020, at 3:37 PM PST
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  11. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKS Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Fox News is not unlike the Never professional talkers.

    You have made a decent living on a Conservative audience, but when you make your audience vehemently disagree with you, you are more than welcome to try and keep selling your unwanted wares, but eventually the market realities will catch up to you, and you may have to find something else to do for a living.

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    • November 9, 2020, at 3:42 PM PST
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  12. Theodoric of Freiberg Member

    That’s called shooting the messenger.

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    • November 9, 2020, at 3:54 PM PST
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  13. Manny Member

    I had a similar post. They lost me. 

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    • November 9, 2020, at 3:56 PM PST
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  14. Mark Camp Member

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Fox News is not unlike the Never professional talkers.

    You have made a decent living on a Conservative audience, but when you make your audience vehemently disagree with you, you are more than welcome to try and keep selling your unwanted wares, but eventually the market realities will catch up to you, and you may have to find something else to do for a living.

    (Emphasis added).

    You object to the new Fox News because it doesn’t agree with you anymore, and you are paying a news channel for telling you what you agree with and want to hear. That’s the wares you refer to.

    Most of us Ricocheteers, I would guess, object to the new Fox News not for that reason, but because it doesn’t seem to be committed to delivering us fair and balanced news anymore, and we are paying a media channel for the truth. For us, truth is the wares.

    We agree on the conclusion, but not on the logic.

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    • November 9, 2020, at 3:59 PM PST
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  15. Brian Watt Member
    Brian Watt Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Chilling tweet.

     

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    • November 9, 2020, at 4:03 PM PST
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  16. Susan Quinn Contributor

    I watched Bret Baer talk about the lawsuits and investigations and he basically ridiculed Republican efforts by reporting on anecdotal or single incidents. Fox showed Rudy Giuliani saying that Will Smith’s deceased father had voted twice. And they expect us to take them seriously as a news organization?

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    • November 9, 2020, at 4:07 PM PST
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  17. Brian Watt Member
    Brian Watt Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Fox News is not unlike the Never professional talkers.

    You have made a decent living on a Conservative audience, but when you make your audience vehemently disagree with you, you are more than welcome to try and keep selling your unwanted wares, but eventually the market realities will catch up to you, and you may have to find something else to do for a living.

    (Emphasis added).

    You object to the new Fox News because it doesn’t agree with you anymore, and you are paying a news channel for telling you what you agree want to hear. That’s the wares you refer to.

    Not so – speaking for myself – I am objecting to FoxNews because, now like CNN and MSBNC, CBS, ABC, NBC, their bias for Joe Biden is on full-display and was very apparent on Election Night. With a few exceptions – Levin, Tucker, Hannity, Pirro, Gutfeld, Watters – some of whom may be axed soon – they are becoming indistinguishable from the other left-leaning networks. They will now be subject to market forces. So be it.

    Most of us Ricocheteers, I would guess, object to the new Fox News not for that reason, but because it doesn’t seem to be committed to delivering us fair and balanced news anymore, and we are paying a media channel for the truth. For us, truth is the wares.

    We agree on the conclusion, but not on the logic.

     

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    • November 9, 2020, at 4:10 PM PST
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  18. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKS Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Fox News is not unlike the Never professional talkers.

    You have made a decent living on a Conservative audience, but when you make your audience vehemently disagree with you, you are more than welcome to try and keep selling your unwanted wares, but eventually the market realities will catch up to you, and you may have to find something else to do for a living.

    (Emphasis added).

    You object to the new Fox News because it doesn’t agree with you anymore, and you are paying a news channel for telling you what you agree want to hear. That’s the wares you refer to.

    Most of us Ricocheteers, I would guess, object to the new Fox News not for that reason, but because it doesn’t seem to be committed to delivering us fair and balanced news anymore, and we are paying a media channel for the truth. For us, truth is the wares.

    We agree on the conclusion, but not on the logic.

    I believe what I believe and I search out those News outlets which don’t make me want to throw my television out the window.

    I believe the result of the election last Tuesday was due to massive voter fraud, and it makes me furious when the MSM insists there was no voter fraud …. Or …. I vehemently disagree with the notion that there is no proof/evidence/statistical anomalies/etc which would indicate voter fraud.

    Is it the truth that there was massive voter fraud which helped get Joe Biden enough votes in States he was losing when the polls closed on Tuesday?

    We cannot know the truth unless we investigate and if the Fox News falls into the MSM Trump must concede that there was no voter fraud, then I vehemently disagree with Fox News version of the their voter fraud truth.

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    • November 9, 2020, at 4:19 PM PST
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  19. Brian Watt Member
    Brian Watt Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Fox News is not unlike the Never professional talkers.

    You have made a decent living on a Conservative audience, but when you make your audience vehemently disagree with you, you are more than welcome to try and keep selling your unwanted wares, but eventually the market realities will catch up to you, and you may have to find something else to do for a living.

    (Emphasis added).

    You object to the new Fox News because it doesn’t agree with you anymore, and you are paying a news channel for telling you what you agree want to hear. That’s the wares you refer to.

    Most of us Ricocheteers, I would guess, object to the new Fox News not for that reason, but because it doesn’t seem to be committed to delivering us fair and balanced news anymore, and we are paying a media channel for the truth. For us, truth is the wares.

    We agree on the conclusion, but not on the logic.

    I believe what I believe and I search out those outlets which don’t make me want to throw my television out the window.

    I believe the result of the election last Tuesday was due to massive voter fraud, and it makes me furious when the MSM suggests that idea there was voter fraud is nonsense …. Or …. I vehemently disagree with the notion that there is no proof/evidence/statistical anomalies/etc which would indicate voter fraud.

    Is it the truth that there was massive voter fraud which helped get Joe Biden enough votes in States he was losing when the polls closed on Tuesday?

    We cannot know the truth unless we investigate and if the Fox News falls into the MSM Trump must concede that there was no voter fraud, then I vehemently disagree with Fox News version of the their voter fraud truth.

    A thousand likes for you! Make it so!

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    • November 9, 2020, at 4:21 PM PST
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  20. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… Thatcher

    I haven’t watched any cable or network news for years, including Fox, but I simply can’t understand what they are doing from a business perspective. They had carved out a very lucrative niche that no one else in the marketplace was catering to. Becoming just a watered down version of CNN or network news is a losing proposition. What is the business strategy here?

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    • November 9, 2020, at 4:55 PM PST
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  21. Brian Watt Member
    Brian Watt Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Gotta love the headline:

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    • November 9, 2020, at 5:02 PM PST
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  22. Gossamer Cat Coolidge

    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Fox News is not unlike the Never professional talkers.

    You have made a decent living on a Conservative audience, but when you make your audience vehemently disagree with you, you are more than welcome to try and keep selling your unwanted wares, but eventually the market realities will catch up to you, and you may have to find something else to do for a living.

    (Emphasis added).

    You object to the new Fox News because it doesn’t agree with you anymore, and you are paying a news channel for telling you what you agree want to hear. That’s the wares you refer to.

    Most of us Ricocheteers, I would guess, object to the new Fox News not for that reason, but because it doesn’t seem to be committed to delivering us fair and balanced news anymore, and we are paying a media channel for the truth. For us, truth is the wares.

    We agree on the conclusion, but not on the logic.

    Agree 100%. They inserted themselves into the election, just like all the other networks. They are allowing their opinions to color what they show and don’t show. Just like all the other networks.

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    • November 9, 2020, at 5:13 PM PST
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  23. Mark Camp Member

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    Not so – speaking for myself – I am objecting to FoxNews because, now like CNN and MSBNC, CBS, ABC, NBC, their bias for Joe Biden is on full-display and was very apparent on Election Night. With a few exceptions – Levin, Tucker, Hannity, Pirro, Gutfeld, Watters – some of whom may be axed soon – they are becoming indistinguishable from the other left-leaning networks. They will now be subject to market forces. So be it.

    You claim to disagree with me and then in what you write, you agree. 

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    • November 9, 2020, at 5:16 PM PST
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  24. Brian Watt Member
    Brian Watt Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    Not so – speaking for myself – I am objecting to FoxNews because, now like CNN and MSBNC, CBS, ABC, NBC, their bias for Joe Biden is on full-display and was very apparent on Election Night. With a few exceptions – Levin, Tucker, Hannity, Pirro, Gutfeld, Watters – some of whom may be axed soon – they are becoming indistinguishable from the other left-leaning networks. They will now be subject to market forces. So be it.

    You claim to disagree with me and then in what you write, you agree.

    Nope. I don’t care if Chris Wallace or Brett Baier or Martha McCallum or Sandra Smith don’t agree with me. I just want them to be honest, fair, and balanced as they purport to be – particularly because each of them present themselves as impartial news anchors. When they wander into commentary or shut down guests or dismiss legitimate allegations of fraud (that their damn network ought to be investigating) and when they call an election that hasn’t been decided or certified, they cross the line of impartiality and openly display their bias. So, I think I’m pretty consistent in my comment.

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    • November 9, 2020, at 5:27 PM PST
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  25. Sweezle Member

    Fox lost me between saying “there is no proof” of voter fraud every time someone mentioned the current Trump lawsuits and Chris Wallace implying “critical race theory” is the same as sensitivity training. 

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    • November 9, 2020, at 5:29 PM PST
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  26. Doug Watt Moderator

    I watched the Notre Dame, Clemson game from start to finish. Far more entertaining, and much better for the soul than listening to Joe.

    From Outkick:

    Notre Dame’s 47-40 win over Clemson averaged 9.44 million viewers across NBC Sports platforms, which is the highest Notre Dame on NBC game in 15 years.

    Clemson-Notre Dame’s regular-season viewership smashes every single NBA Finals game this season. The political-led Finals averaged a putrid, all-time low 7.45 million viewers. The college football game, which stayed out of politics, will crush the NBA even worse on Tuesday when it adds its out-of-home viewership.Between 11:30-11:45 p.m. ET, the game’s second overtime, the showdown peaked at 14.2 million viewers.

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    • November 9, 2020, at 5:30 PM PST
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  27. Sweezle Member

    Doug – you must have been watching a local station. I had to mute the NBC national feed when it cut out to Biden. What a great game! 

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    • November 9, 2020, at 5:36 PM PST
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  28. The Cloaked Gaijin Member

    Roger Ailes was the person who made FoxNews, and Rupert Murdoch’s lefty kids and family members are ready to destroy it.

    FoxNews usually has some of the most lefty polls results too.

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    • November 9, 2020, at 6:13 PM PST
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  29. Doug Watt Moderator

    Sweezle (View Comment):

    Doug – you must have been watching a local station. I had to mute the NBC national feed when it cut out to Biden. What a great game!

    I’m on a satellite, just switched over to USA network for the game when NBC cut away for Biden, and then back to NBC when Biden had to go to bed.

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    • November 9, 2020, at 6:25 PM PST
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  30. Chris Oler Coolidge
    Chris Oler Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Seems like the margin for error with their market is much lower than the other networks as well. Fox simply doesn’t have the corporate support in terms of deep-pocket advertisers.

    Ah, well, many a company has done it before them: find a working business model, cultivate a market…torch it.

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    • November 9, 2020, at 10:00 PM PST
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