Recommended by Ricochet Members Created with Sketch. Missouri, Ohio and Other States Now Suing Pennsylvania – Amicus Briefs Filed with SCOTUS

 

The proverbial Fat Lady just sat down and is taking an extended break. It ain’t over folks. It’s just getting started.

Here is an excerpt from the Ohio Amicus Brief (emphasis mine):

STATEMENT OF AMICUS INTEREST AND SUMMARY OF ARGUMENT*

Ohio is not here because it objects, as a policy matter, to absentee voting. To the contrary, “[t]here is nodispute that Ohio is generous when it comes to absentee voting—especially when compared to other states.” Mays v. LaRose, 951 F.3d 775, 779–80 (6th Cir. 2020). Ohio’s interest in this case also has nothing to do with any abstract concern about counting ballots received after Election Day. In fact, Ohio itself counts absentee ballots received within ten days of Election Day, as long as those ballots are postmarked by the day before Election Day. Ohio Rev. Code §3509.05(B)(1).

Ohio is interested in this case because reversal is crucial to protecting the Constitution’s division of authority over state election laws. The United States Constitution says that “[e]ach State shall appoint” electors “in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct.” Art. II, §1, cl.2 (emphasis added). The Pennsylvania legislature directed that electors for the 2020 election would be chosen through votes cast in person and by absentee ballot. But it expressly mandated that absentee ballots would count only if received by 8 p.m. on Election Day. Pet.App.16a (quot- ing 25 P.S. §3150.16(a)). Instead of respecting that decision, Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court rewrote state law, ordering election officials to count ballots—including ballots with no postmarks or illegible postmarks—received within three days after Election Day.

I guess other states have an issue with voter suppression of their results from another state in a federal election that could unlawfully elect Mr. Biden.

Does everyone have enough popcorn?

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  1. Flicker Coolidge

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    Permit me to be more emphatic, If Ricochet cancels a credible claim of voter fraud that the GOP or the Trump campaign is incorporating into one of its legal challenges, I may have to cancel my membership.

    Do what you have to do, Brian. We’ll do the same.

    Please explain – justify, even – why YOU “have to do” what you claim?

    You know why. (Shhhhh, there’s nothing to see here.)

    :)

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    • November 10, 2020, at 10:00 PM PST
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  2. kedavis Member

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Gazpacho Grande’ (View Comment):
    Which means, apparently, according to the New Rules of Ricochet, we can’t talk about the election in those specific places unless and until an investigation is completed.

    Sort of like how we never talked about the Mueller thing until the report came out, and all was clarified, to everyone’s satisfaction.

    The rules about conspiracy theories and misinformation aren’t new. They’ve been in place since the day the site launched 10 years ago, and you agreed to abide by them when you joined.

    I have no memory of any Ricochet establishing or enforcing any rules regarding the discussion of “the Mueller thing” on this site. Got a link for that?

    I think that might have been the point of the comment.

    Or to use it back at you, “That’s the joke.”

    • #212
    • November 10, 2020, at 10:01 PM PST
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  3. kedavis Member

    Flicker (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    Permit me to be more emphatic, If Ricochet cancels a credible claim of voter fraud that the GOP or the Trump campaign is incorporating into one of its legal challenges, I may have to cancel my membership.

    Do what you have to do, Brian. We’ll do the same.

    Please explain – justify, even – why YOU “have to do” what you claim?

    You know why. (Shhhhh, there’s nothing to see here.)

    :)

    This stuff about “conspiracy theories CoC” sounds like if Microsoft called me up to say that I violated their EULA terms that I can only use Windows 10 between 1:59am and 2:01am on odd-numbered days in even-numbered months… And I knew that when I bought it…

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    • November 10, 2020, at 10:15 PM PST
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  4. Flicker Coolidge

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    Permit me to be more emphatic, If Ricochet cancels a credible claim of voter fraud that the GOP or the Trump campaign is incorporating into one of its legal challenges, I may have to cancel my membership.

    Do what you have to do, Brian. We’ll do the same.

    Please explain – justify, even – why YOU “have to do” what you claim?

    You know why. (Shhhhh, there’s nothing to see here.)

    :)

    This stuff about “conspiracy theories CoC” sounds like if Microsoft called me up to say that I violated their EULA terms that I can only use Windows 10 between 1:59am and 2:01am on odd-numbered days in even-numbered months… And I knew that when I bought it…

    Very good. :)

    • #214
    • November 10, 2020, at 10:21 PM PST
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  5. kedavis Member

    Flicker (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    Permit me to be more emphatic, If Ricochet cancels a credible claim of voter fraud that the GOP or the Trump campaign is incorporating into one of its legal challenges, I may have to cancel my membership.

    Do what you have to do, Brian. We’ll do the same.

    Please explain – justify, even – why YOU “have to do” what you claim?

    You know why. (Shhhhh, there’s nothing to see here.)

    :)

    This stuff about “conspiracy theories CoC” sounds like if Microsoft called me up to say that I violated their EULA terms that I can only use Windows 10 between 1:59am and 2:01am on odd-numbered days in even-numbered months… And I knew that when I bought it…

    Very good. :)

    I thought about adding “between 1:59am and 2:01 am according to a clock I can’t see, on odd-numbered days in even-numbered months on some weird calendar they won’t show me…”

    But yeah, I liked it too. :-)

    • #215
    • November 10, 2020, at 10:26 PM PST
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  6. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Gazpacho Grande’ (View Comment):
    Not yet. Are you going to, as you promised earlier? If I stray too far into conspiracies? Lots of tough internet guy talk here. You should be embarrassed but clearly aren’t. And we are your customers.

    No tough guy talk, just reminding you of the rules you agreed to when you joined. That you are our one of customers isn’t relevant in this scenario.

    Says the guy who’s telling everyone to shut up with a new set of rules arbitrarily applied.

     

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    • November 11, 2020, at 3:58 AM PST
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  7. Richard Easton Member

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    The problem for Trump is that Biden is ahead of Trump in Pennsylvania by about 45,000 votes and those late absentee ballots have been placed in a separate pile, currently uncounted.

    Basically, Trump’s changes of prevailing in this election are similar to the chances of my cat writing poetry.

    But I do give Trump and his allies credit. They are shaking down the MAGA crowd for donations to Trump’s Legal Defense Fund. Trump attorneys and consultants will make tons of money on this, even though they are nearly guaranteed to lose.

    There are many other problems which could easily shift the vote by more than 45K. Please give a reference for the late absentee votes being separated. Alito ordered this but some are claiming that it is not being done.

    “Some are claiming that it is not being done.”

    That’s an assertion. No court of law has determined that ballots have been counted and/or segregated improperly.

    You claimed that they were being separated. What’s your evidence for this. 

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    • November 11, 2020, at 4:39 AM PST
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  8. Richard Easton Member

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    The problem for Trump is that Biden is ahead of Trump in Pennsylvania by about 45,000 votes and those late absentee ballots have been placed in a separate pile, currently uncounted.

    Basically, Trump’s changes of prevailing in this election are similar to the chances of my cat writing poetry.

    But I do give Trump and his allies credit. They are shaking down the MAGA crowd for donations to Trump’s Legal Defense Fund. Trump attorneys and consultants will make tons of money on this, even though they are nearly guaranteed to lose.

    There are many other problems which could easily shift the vote by more than 45K. Please give a reference for the late absentee votes being separated. Alito ordered this but some are claiming that it is not being done.

    Oh Some People. Well those guys are always right. Are they the same people “that say”?

    HW made an assertion. I asked him for the evidence supporting it. You appear to be upset with that. 

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    • November 11, 2020, at 4:41 AM PST
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  9. Stad Coolidge

    Valiuth (View Comment):

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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Not only has the Fat Lady sung. She’s already performed the entire opera.

    This is how far behind Trump is right now.

    Biden leads Trump by

    35,000 votes in Nevada (6 electoral votes)

    45,000 votes in Pennsylvania (20)

    14,000 votes in Arizona (11)

    12,000 votes in Georgia (16)

    20,000 votes in Wisconsin (10)

    145,000 votes in Michigan (16)

    This election is over, except Trump’s attorneys need to make some more money off of the MAGA crowd. So, please donate to Trump’s Legal Defense Fund.

    And everyone said that Trump wasn’t wiretapped. Remember way back then? It turns out that everyone who said he wasn’t wiretapped was either lying or stupid.

    Which were you?

    He wasn’t wiretapped. So I guess that makes you either stupid or a liar.

    But, with respect to Pennsylvania’s post 8PM mail in ballots all of those have been segregated from the vote count pending legal review. The current count in Pennsylvania at the moment only includes votes cast on election day or absentee ballots received by 8PM on election day. So if these late ballots are ruled invalid, then Biden still wins the state of Pennsylvania by 45,000 votes. If they are ruled valid then Biden’s margin of victory will most likely change but not be erased, since I think there aren’t even enough ballots outstanding to remove a 45,000 vote lead if they went 100% for Trump (which is to say very unlikely). Most likely Biden lead would grow given the break down of mail in ballots so far in PA.

    When you live in a conspiratorial fantasy land facts and the proper interpretation of facts doesn’t matter. It is just a free form puzzle to assemble on a corkboard with colored strings connecting the dots.

    Zzzzz . . .

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    • November 11, 2020, at 5:48 AM PST
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  10. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. StephensJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Blue Yeti makes is clear the jig is up.

    For 4 years, we have seen clear lies posted by a Never Trumper, clear lies, that members have debunked over and over, but Scott is more than happy to let that Member post whatever lies he feels like. I guess as long as lies are supported by the lying mainstream media they are OK. This member posted links to an organization engaged in outright lies, who supported lies to make up a conspiracy theory about Trump being a Russian puppet. Those were OK.

    Now, Scott swoops in to threaten us with censorship (claiming it is not) because people post to non-approved media, calling in Ricochet’s CoC. The then claims he has made no threats, even though he just made one. Further, the CoC was not enforced in that way against said Never Trumper, no matter what he said.

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    • November 11, 2020, at 5:56 AM PST
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  11. drlorentz Member
    drlorentzJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Now, Scott swoops in to threaten us with censorship (claiming it is not) because people post to non-approved media, calling in Ricochet’s CoC. The then claims he has made no threats, even though he just made one. Further, the CoC was not enforced in that way against said Never Trumper, no matter what he said.

    It is always instructive to see Cathedral operatives reveal themselves and their methods. Think of it as a red pill.

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    • November 11, 2020, at 6:49 AM PST
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  12. Valiuth Member
    ValiuthJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    HW and Valiuth:

    I think that both of you have asserted that the Pennsylvania mail-in ballots that were received after the deadline set by the legislature — 8 pm on election day, I think — have not been counted.

    I was unable to find any current information online about this. Do you have a source for this?

    I genuinely don’t know whether those questionable votes have been counted or not, nor could I find a report of how many such votes there are.

    Absent such information, it seems quite premature to conclude that the result is final.

    I also don’t know how many votes remain to be counted, if any, in other important states — especially Arizona, Georgia, and Wisconsin.

    Nevada does appear to have trended more strongly in Biden’s direction over the past couple of days.

    The votes recieved after 8PM on election day in PA have been segregated from the vote total that is on going. I don’t know if they are counting them in parallel. I hope they are because if deemed valid that will speed up the process, but maybe they aren’t allowed to do that. 

    Official guidance from the PA Department of State issued before the election about how such ballots are to be treated. It calls for segregating them. 

    https://www.dos.pa.gov/VotingElections/OtherServicesEvents/Documents/Canvassing-Segregated-Ballot-Guidance.pdf

    News report that counties in PA have acknowledged following the guidelines above, which were reinforced by ruling from Justice Alito on Nov 5. 

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/07/pennsylvania-election-lawsuit-counties-segregating-late-ballots/6201926002/

    And a news article giving some details about the segregated ballots. I’ve found It looks like they have began processing the ballots but I might be confusing those for the provisional ballots (which are a separate thing). I only quickly scanned the article. 

    https://local21news.com/news/local/examining-the-vote-segregated-ballots-make-minimal-impact-in-central-pa-count

     

     

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    • November 11, 2020, at 6:54 AM PST
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  13. Valiuth Member
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    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    <edited for length>

    HeavyWater, you believed a proposition for which you had no empirical evidence.

    That proposition was later proved false.

    Let that sink in for a little while.

    You aren’t making any sense. You are writing in very vague language so that it isn’t possible to know what the heck you are talking about.

    The lack of proof is simply proof of the depth of the conspiracy. The weaker, flimsier, and less reliable the evidence the larger more widespread and pervasive the conspiracy. This is what we are seeing unfold on these threads. This is what Ricochet is helping to establish and create. A community of conspiracy minded wackos feeding and confirming each others delusions. Hey it must be true there are all these people on the internet who agree.

    So expressing that claims of voter fraud should be looked into based 50 sworn affidavits from GOP, Democrat and non-affiliated observers and that what may verified could alter the vote count in Trump’s favor is dismissed now as delusions by conspiracy minded wackos, really? Is that you’re rock-sold rebuttal? Profound.

    This Chicago attorney who was on site in Pittsburgh must also be a conspiracy theorist. From JustTheNews:

    Pennsylvania poll watcher: ‘We literally had no input and no ability to watch anything’

    At some point during the process—out of sight of poll watchers — the ballots were checked for “sufficiency,” with workers ensuring that the addresses, dates and signatures were properly affixed to each ballot, Shestokas said.

    Eventually ballots made their way back to a central processing area, but watchers were placed far enough away that they were more or less incapable of properly observing the process, he added.

    “All of the folks who were observers for campaigns were maybe 15, 20 feet from many of the tables, in a coral,” he said. “Other tables may have been 100-150 feet away. We were not allowed to go outside the corral in the one huge room.”

    Shestokas said ballots were eventually fed into scanning equipment in another, smaller room. Overall, he said, poll watchers were effectively unable to give the oversight for which they were present.

    “We literally had no input and no ability to watch anything,” he said. “As far as I’m concerned, each and every one of those ballots was opened illegally.”

     

    The distance rules were established prior to the election and I would like proof that they were any different in 2016, when we had no such complaints from Republicans or Democrats when Trump won. But, fine let them get closer (which I believe they have been by a judge). This is still no proof of fraud or shenanigans. At best it is conjecture. 

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    • November 11, 2020, at 7:02 AM PST
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  14. HeavyWater Coolidge

    The Republicans performed well in Pennsylvania outside of the presidential race. In the U.S. House races, the GOP candidates are currently getting 117,000 more votes than the Democrat candidates. The presidential race was viewed differently by the voters. Many potential GOP voters just couldn’t stomach Trump. In Pennsylvania Republicans won the Auditor General and Treasurer races.

    • #224
    • November 11, 2020, at 7:37 AM PST
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  15. Blue Yeti Admin

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti makes is clear the jig is up.

    For 4 years, we have seen clear lies posted by a Never Trumper, clear lies, that members have debunked over and over, but Scott is more than happy to let that Member post whatever lies he feels like. I guess as long as lies are supported by the lying mainstream media they are OK. This member posted links to an organization engaged in outright lies, who supported lies to make up a conspiracy theory about Trump being a Russian puppet. Those were OK.

    Now, Scott swoops in to threaten us with censorship (claiming it is not) because people post to non-approved media, calling in Ricochet’s CoC. The then claims he has made no threats, even though he just made one. Further, the CoC was not enforced in that way against said Never Trumper, no matter what he said.

    If you are referring to who I think you are referring to, that person was suspended multiple times over the past 4 years, including at least once (might be more, honestly don’t remember now) for posting unverified rumors from the Steele Dossier about the President. In other words, for violating the CoC. 

    • #225
    • November 11, 2020, at 7:39 AM PST
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  16. Blue Yeti Admin

    drlorentz (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Now, Scott swoops in to threaten us with censorship (claiming it is not) because people post to non-approved media, calling in Ricochet’s CoC. The then claims he has made no threats, even though he just made one. Further, the CoC was not enforced in that way against said Never Trumper, no matter what he said.

    It is always instructive to see Cathedral operatives reveal themselves and their methods. Think of it as a red pill.

    I’m not Catholic, but I do really like The Matrix (the first one — the sequels are hot garbage). 

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    • November 11, 2020, at 7:41 AM PST
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  17. Richard Easton Member

    Stad (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Not only has the Fat Lady sung. She’s already performed the entire opera.

    This is how far behind Trump is right now.

    Biden leads Trump by

    35,000 votes in Nevada (6 electoral votes)

    45,000 votes in Pennsylvania (20)

    14,000 votes in Arizona (11)

    12,000 votes in Georgia (16)

    20,000 votes in Wisconsin (10)

    145,000 votes in Michigan (16)

    This election is over, except Trump’s attorneys need to make some more money off of the MAGA crowd. So, please donate to Trump’s Legal Defense Fund.

    And everyone said that Trump wasn’t wiretapped. Remember way back then? It turns out that everyone who said he wasn’t wiretapped was either lying or stupid.

    Which were you?

    He wasn’t wiretapped. So I guess that makes you either stupid or a liar.

    But, with respect to Pennsylvania’s post 8PM mail in ballots all of those have been segregated from the vote count pending legal review. The current count in Pennsylvania at the moment only includes votes cast on election day or absentee ballots received by 8PM on election day. So if these late ballots are ruled invalid, then Biden still wins the state of Pennsylvania by 45,000 votes. If they are ruled valid then Biden’s margin of victory will most likely change but not be erased, since I think there aren’t even enough ballots outstanding to remove a 45,000 vote lead if they went 100% for Trump (which is to say very unlikely). Most likely Biden lead would grow given the break down of mail in ballots so far in PA.

    When you live in a conspiratorial fantasy land facts and the proper interpretation of facts doesn’t matter. It is just a free form puzzle to assemble on a corkboard with colored strings connecting the dots.

    Zzzzz . . .

    Four FISA applications were approved on Carter Page. The two (or possibly even three) step rule means that the Deep State accessed all of Trump’s electronic communications. They can go back in time. I call that wiretapping. What would you call it.

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    • November 11, 2020, at 7:42 AM PST
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  18. Richard Easton Member

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    The Republicans performed well in Pennsylvania outside of the presidential race. In the U.S. House races, the GOP candidates are currently getting 117,000 more votes than the Democrat candidates. The presidential race was viewed differently by the voters. Many potential GOP voters just couldn’t stomach Trump. In Pennsylvania Republicans won the Auditor General and Treasurer races.

    Trump performed comparably to the R senatorial candidates in states which were not competitive. He did poorer in competitive states which is where the votes were manufactured.

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    • November 11, 2020, at 7:44 AM PST
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  19. HeavyWater Coolidge

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    The problem for Trump is that Biden is ahead of Trump in Pennsylvania by about 45,000 votes and those late absentee ballots have been placed in a separate pile, currently uncounted.

    Basically, Trump’s changes of prevailing in this election are similar to the chances of my cat writing poetry.

    But I do give Trump and his allies credit. They are shaking down the MAGA crowd for donations to Trump’s Legal Defense Fund. Trump attorneys and consultants will make tons of money on this, even though they are nearly guaranteed to lose.

    There are many other problems which could easily shift the vote by more than 45K. Please give a reference for the late absentee votes being separated. Alito ordered this but some are claiming that it is not being done.

    “Some are claiming that it is not being done.”

    That’s an assertion. No court of law has determined that ballots have been counted and/or segregated improperly.

    You claimed that they were being separated. What’s your evidence for this.

    I read a few news stories mentioning that those current vote totals, where Biden leads Trump by about 45,000 votes, do not include any late arriving ballots.

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    • November 11, 2020, at 7:47 AM PST
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  20. Blue Yeti Admin

    Gazpacho Grande' (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Gazpacho Grande’ (View Comment):
    Not yet. Are you going to, as you promised earlier? If I stray too far into conspiracies? Lots of tough internet guy talk here. You should be embarrassed but clearly aren’t. And we are your customers.

    No tough guy talk, just reminding you of the rules you agreed to when you joined. That you are our one of customers isn’t relevant in this scenario.

    Says the guy who’s telling everyone to shut up with a new set of rules arbitrarily applied.

     

    I’ll pay out of my own pocket for anyone’s Ricochet membership for a year if you can find anywhere on this site from any time where I told anyone to “shut up.” 

    Once more for the hard of hearing: I reminded everyone that we do have rules about posting rumors and conspiracy theories. That’s all I did. 

    By the way, I recommend this roundup by NR’s Jim Geraghty of all the pending court cases surrounding the election. It’s quite thorough.

    And I hope to see all of you at 12PM PT/3PM ET today for our Q&A with John Yoo. Bring him your toughest questions and advice for how to proceed with these pending cases.

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    • November 11, 2020, at 7:48 AM PST
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  21. HeavyWater Coolidge

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    The Republicans performed well in Pennsylvania outside of the presidential race. In the U.S. House races, the GOP candidates are currently getting 117,000 more votes than the Democrat candidates. The presidential race was viewed differently by the voters. Many potential GOP voters just couldn’t stomach Trump. In Pennsylvania Republicans won the Auditor General and Treasurer races.

    Trump performed comparably to the R senatorial candidates in states which were not competitive. He did poorer in competitive states which is where the votes were manufactured.

    My point is that if the Democrats did engage in ballot stuffing in Pennsylvania, they were incompetent in doing so because they allowed Republicans to out poll Democrats in the US House races by about 117,000 votes while Biden leads Trump by about 45,000 votes. 

    So, there at least 2 explanations for the different outcomes in Pennsylvania:

    [1] A significant number of voters cast votes for Republican candidates for US House, Treasurer and Auditory General while either not voting in the presidential contest or voting for Biden or Libertarian.

    [2] The ballot stuffers in Pennsylvania were incompetent.

    I think [1] is more plausible. In fact, we know a lot of people (over-represented in the media) who are Never Trump Republicans. They vote GOP but don’t vote for Trump. So, the Pennsylvania results reflect the existence of a small, but significant, Never Trump voting block.

     

     

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    • November 11, 2020, at 7:56 AM PST
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  22. Percival Thatcher
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    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Not only has the Fat Lady sung. She’s already performed the entire opera.

    This is how far behind Trump is right now.

    Biden leads Trump by

    35,000 votes in Nevada (6 electoral votes)

    45,000 votes in Pennsylvania (20)

    14,000 votes in Arizona (11)

    12,000 votes in Georgia (16)

    20,000 votes in Wisconsin (10)

    145,000 votes in Michigan (16)

    This election is over, except Trump’s attorneys need to make some more money off of the MAGA crowd. So, please donate to Trump’s Legal Defense Fund.

    And everyone said that Trump wasn’t wiretapped. Remember way back then? It turns out that everyone who said he wasn’t wiretapped was either lying or stupid.

    Which were you?

    He wasn’t wiretapped. So I guess that makes you either stupid or a liar.

    But, with respect to Pennsylvania’s post 8PM mail in ballots all of those have been segregated from the vote count pending legal review. The current count in Pennsylvania at the moment only includes votes cast on election day or absentee ballots received by 8PM on election day. So if these late ballots are ruled invalid, then Biden still wins the state of Pennsylvania by 45,000 votes. If they are ruled valid then Biden’s margin of victory will most likely change but not be erased, since I think there aren’t even enough ballots outstanding to remove a 45,000 vote lead if they went 100% for Trump (which is to say very unlikely). Most likely Biden lead would grow given the break down of mail in ballots so far in PA.

    When you live in a conspiratorial fantasy land facts and the proper interpretation of facts doesn’t matter. It is just a free form puzzle to assemble on a corkboard with colored strings connecting the dots.

    Zzzzz . . .

    Four FISA applications were approved on Carter Page. The two (or possibly even three) step rule means that the Deep State accessed all of Trump’s electronic communications. They can go back in time. I call that wiretapping. What would you call it.

    Thank you, Richard. I was otherwise occupied.

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    • November 11, 2020, at 8:42 AM PST
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  23. Percival Thatcher
    PercivalJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    The time travel aspect of a FISA warrant, plus the hopping, means that Trump was covered far more effectively than Gene Hackman could pull off in The Conversation.

    • #233
    • November 11, 2020, at 8:45 AM PST
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  24. HeavyWater Coolidge

    Percival (View Comment):

    The time travel aspect of a FISA warrant, plus the hopping, means that Trump was covered far more effectively than Gene Hackman could pull off in The Conversation.

    How is the FISA warrant related to the issue of voter fraud?

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    • November 11, 2020, at 11:40 AM PST
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  25. Skyler Coolidge

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    The time travel aspect of a FISA warrant, plus the hopping, means that Trump was covered far more effectively than Gene Hackman could pull off in The Conversation.

    How is the FISA warrant related to the issue of voter fraud?

    It shows the depravity of the democrat party and their willingness to break any law to gain power.

    • #235
    • November 11, 2020, at 11:51 AM PST
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  26. drlorentz Member
    drlorentzJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    drlorentz (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Now, Scott swoops in to threaten us with censorship (claiming it is not) because people post to non-approved media, calling in Ricochet’s CoC. The then claims he has made no threats, even though he just made one. Further, the CoC was not enforced in that way against said Never Trumper, no matter what he said.

    It is always instructive to see Cathedral operatives reveal themselves and their methods. Think of it as a red pill.

    I’m not Catholic, but I do really like The Matrix (the first one — the sequels are hot garbage).

    Catholics aren’t the only guys with cathedrals. You might want to pick up a book.

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  27. Blue Yeti Admin

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti makes is clear the jig is up.

    For 4 years, we have seen clear lies posted by a Never Trumper, clear lies, that members have debunked over and over, but Scott is more than happy to let that Member post whatever lies he feels like. I guess as long as lies are supported by the lying mainstream media they are OK. This member posted links to an organization engaged in outright lies, who supported lies to make up a conspiracy theory about Trump being a Russian puppet. Those were OK.

    Now, Scott swoops in to threaten us with censorship (claiming it is not) because people post to non-approved media, calling in Ricochet’s CoC. The then claims he has made no threats, even though he just made one. Further, the CoC was not enforced in that way against said Never Trumper, no matter what he said.

    Yes, I am swooping in and censoring EVERYONE. Run for your lives!

    And sorry my friend, the CoC was indeed enforced with regards to the person you are referencing. Our policy has always been to not publicize suspensions or bans (we don’t believe in public shaming), so just because you aren’t aware of the suspensions does not mean it didn’t occur.

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  28. HeavyWater Coolidge

    The oppression we face here on Ricochet is awful. 

    I’m moving to North Korea forthwith.

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    • November 11, 2020, at 2:35 PM PST
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  29. Brian Watt Member
    Brian WattJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    The oppression we face here on Ricochet is awful.

    I’m moving to North Korea forthwith.

    You could start a weight loss company.

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  30. kedavis Member

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    The oppression we face here on Ricochet is awful.

    I’m moving to North Korea forthwith.

    You could start a weight loss company.

    North Korea seems to BE a weight loss company country.

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    • November 11, 2020, at 2:41 PM PST
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